Chinese Toddler Hit By Van, Then Ignored For Several Minutes By 18 Passers-By

[NinjaDeathSlap]

Frankly, this has caused me to lose my faith in humanity. Bastards. I'm off to be a Vulcan. At least they embrace their apathy.

if you have anything that can help lift my spirits, please post pronto!

Don't worry JoJo. Here, take a pony.

See it's shit like this that I hate. There is no fucking need for ponies in this thread but LO AND BEHOLD we have a huge pony image in a thread about a child getting run over.

Says the person who laughed at this comment...

In all fairness most toddlers are a pile of whinging and leaking bodily fluids even when they haven't been run over twice.

 

[Keith Reedy]

Frankly, this has caused me to lose my faith in humanity. Bastards. I'm off to be a Vulcan. At least they embrace their apathy.

if you have anything that can help lift my spirits, please post pronto!

Don't worry JoJo. Here, take a pony.

See it's shit like this that I hate. There is no fucking need for ponies in this thread but LO AND BEHOLD we have a huge pony image in a thread about a child getting run over.

Its people like you that I hate, ya gotta complain about everything. Is a sad thread just enjoy the cute pony before moving back the the sad stuff bout the kid being run over.

This is sad but I'm not shocked or surprised, I read history and have studied some psychology, far more terrible things have been done for this to truly feel shocking to me. In the US there are cases where something like this happened, someone was being raped and was then killed. She made lots of noise and the people in a nearby apartment that could hear her and could have seen the whole thing if they had but looked out the window didn't even call 911. So as I said sad not shocking.

We all like to think that we would have helped but without having been in such a situation we can't know how we would react. I'd like to think I'd have helped but I am not so morally superior that I think those who walked by are terrible. I have no way of knowing how seeing that toddler would affect me, neither do any of us we might just run away screaming.

I hope I would help let me put it that way.

 

[BoogieManFL]

Only in China.

Really, nuff' said. Whenever you hear about some crazy social ineptitude you can safely bet it was in China.

 

[4ged]

1. its China, they have too many people to care about one getting mangled by traffic
2. its China, they have the one child rule and boys are more valuable then girls there
3. its China, the thing that went through the passer-byres heads was the thought police
4. its China.

That's a very narrow minded view of a country.

unfortunately its all true, they have 1/3 the worlds population within there borders, they are very big on censorship and there have been hundreds of documentary about how family's will abandon there girl children for the hopes of getting a boy, its hard to have a broad view of a country who has absolute disdain for human rights, if you don't believe me look up Tiananmen Square 1989.

 

[direkiller]

Only in China.

Really, nuff' said. Whenever you hear about some crazy social ineptitude you can safely bet it was in China.

England: a woman was stabbed in her apartment the 18 outher apartments around her herd the screams but thought someone else called the cops she was found dead the next day with i forget how many stab wounds
US:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/26/new-york-stabbed-samaritan-dies
(the video that was removed) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-20dURI9qA
its not just in China

 

[Distorted Stu]

Im afraid the 2nd post nailed this thread up perfectly. I've seen loads of cases of the bystander effect and its usually me and my friend who does something about the situation (because we both understand the effect so we know somethign must be done .... and we're top blokes).

So i shall try to cheer you up OP

 

[Keith Reedy]

... .. .What...?

That just, binds me to a rage. It's a small little girl, who's bleeding on the street. Just seeing the video of these people passing by, letting the little girl die just is to much to bear. In my opinion, they turned a blind eye because they do not have any value for human life. They are inconsiderate, and I hope they are tracked down to be put in jail.

That's actually abuse in my opinion, because in America if they knew you walked by a dieing person then you should get your butt busted. Clearly I can't believe THAT many people walked, and I mean literally walked by eying the injured girl but moved on. What's wrong with people?? Sorry if I sound emotional, but for God's sake it's just a small little girl who is bleeding obviously. Thank goodness at least that woman came to her rescue- props to her.

As for lifting your spirits, I would say PM me if you wish to talk. I'll be happy to listen and give advise the best I can.

This is called the BYSTANDER EFFECT.

The F***!?

How can people just walk by and turn a blind-eye to an injured human being, let alone a toddler?Either these people are truly heartless, selfish bastards, or the population size of their own country has gone to their heads.

"Eh, there's already a BILLION of us. One less child would actually do us good."

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE WORTHLESS SACKS OF FLESH, BONES, AND MUTATED, SPONGE PROTEINS SHOULD BE ARRESTED AND SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON FOR CALLOUS DISREGARD FOR A HUMAN INFANT LIFE!

Or just let them get run over by a van, twice, dumped in the alley, and deny them medical attention. You know, keep things interested.

This is called the BYSTANDER EFFECT.

perus päivä (basic day in Finnish) in china

i've heard of a similar story, along the lines of an old man being run over, then the same car reversed on top of him, and then rode away

china is a terrible place... :/

This is called the BYSTANDER EFFECT. And this is not exclusive to China. And judging a country with 1-billion population by the acts of a few is... yeah.

This has happened before, you know. I read an article about it somewhere. It is just a lot easier to not give a shit. I guarantee that alot of the people here saying "Oh, those heartless bastards" would have done the same thing. It is just human nature.

Yeah, this is called the BYSTANDER EFFECT.


Notice I said a few times this is called the BYSTANDER EFFECT?
Because it's actually called the BYSTANDER EFFECT.

You know, just saying before more people come and claim morale superiority over faceless Chinese pedestrians and drivers.

That may be the explanation, but it is not an excuse.

I don't care what human psychology says, we have proven that we have the power to resist our compulsions time and again. I don't care what it's called, I still consider the people whop walked by to be far worse human beings than the people who helped. The only reason I would not have helped in that situation was if there were already so many people tending to the girl that I would have just been getting in their way. I'm not saying everyone should be experts in first aid, but it doesn't take any training, or any effort, to just call a fucking ambulance for crying out loud! Whatever was going on inside their heads it does not absolve them from letting that girl bleed out in the street, and it especially does not absolve the second driver for actively running her over again.

It is possible that neither driver saw the child and just assumed they had hit some of the junk in the alley. The first driver may not have stopped because he saw the child, and as the child is already down when the second comes by the child would have been even harder to see. I'm trying really hard to rationalize why the kid was hit in the first place. Its so easy to just hit the brakes and yell "Get out the road stupid!!" that thats whats bothering me the most I can't believe that the driver actually saw her.

ONE QUESTION Where are the parents that should be watching tha kid?!

 

[Tyrant T100]

Communism does that to people, the worker ants are worthless by products of society.

 

[Keith Reedy]

1. its China, they have too many people to care about one getting mangled by traffic
2. its China, they have the one child rule and boys are more valuable then girls there
3. its China, the thing that went through the passer-byres heads was the thought police
4. its China.

That's a very narrow minded view of a country.

unfortunately its all true, they have 1/3 the worlds population within there borders, they are very big on censorship and there have been hundreds of documentary about how family's will abandon there girl children for the hopes of getting a boy, its hard to have a broad view of a country who has absolute disdain for human rights, if you don't believe me look up Tiananmen Square 1989.

They have 1 billion (give or take) and the world is nearing 7 billion, that's just under 1/7 not 1/3.

The things the government doesn't mean the people agree with it. Every country has problems but it's not right to generalise a country of 1 billion people due to the actions of a much smaller number.

True but you can't just say there's no excuse and not consider the country and how the people live

 

[CrazyGirl17]

What... just... WHAT. If I saw a little girl hurt, I wouldn't just walk by...

Damned "Bystander Effect"...

 

[Iwata]

Reminds me of that video a couple of months ago of a mob of Chinese adults pestering and beating up a young Caucasian kid who'd been caught stealing. In related news, a study shown on BBC World because of this event showed that only 9% of Chinese people interviewed would actually stop and help. Different cultures and all that, but basic human decency should not be something you get to choose.

By the way, giving it a name ("THE BYSTANDER EFFECT") doesn't in any way, shape or form excuse it. And thinking "I would help" is not claiming moral superiority, it just means you're a person with some empathy for the plight and suffering of a 2-year old girl who's just been run over twice and left bleeding in the middle of the street. People have a damn good right to be outraged at the inaction and lack of humanity of other people, and coming here saying "don't judge, you're no better than anyone" because someone displays outrage at this monstrosity only speaks ill of yourself.

 

[TheDooD]

Only in China.

Really, nuff' said. Whenever you hear about some crazy social ineptitude you can safely bet it was in China.

Kinda fucked up yet it's pretty much the truth. It isn't racism in the slightest China gets away with doing quite a lot of fucked up shit. Like stuff exploding randomly, horrible building materials, practices and just the start of it.

 

[SinisterGehe]

It is bystander effect. I have been victim of it also. When I got in to a fight after school and they banged my head really hard against the wall, I started bleed and passed out from the hit. It took few minutes for other students to realize that I wasn't moving before they bothered to do something.

There was just the same kind of enrage on the local shit papers (local- and tabloid papers) and student blogs.

But yeah, human psychology is complicated and dark thing. They can watch their friends and loved ones die front of them and stand there without shedding a tear... and we can predict when that shock will hit the person quite well.

I am not going to take a enrage because it was a toddler who got hit* (* I don't see age to be a factor when it comes to estimating the value of humans' life). I am going to take a hate a rage because of the predictable human mind is in it full glory again.

Life is what it is... But still where was her parents? the fact that bystanders did nothing is bad, agreed. But the fact where was her parents - they should be looking a toddler constantly.

Beside, the attitudes and behavior Chinese people have due to their culture, country and politics are what they are and forge people who have different sets of behavior patterns and triggers. Welcome to world of cultural relativism, a world that is grim and dark and in which we must let horrible things bass by because... we must. It is easy for others to take a rage and specially Internet bloggers to write things about the event. But let me ask you, how many of you would been there ready, willing and able to help her? And don't lie just to keep your self-image up. If I'd been there I would most likely gone to shock and had to take time before I could have helped her. It is easy to afterwards "Well this is what I would have done". I been trained and educated to help victims of different accidents, but I know, that I wouldn't be able to act instantly, I would need time to start doing something.

I don't know what they teach in Chinese schools about how you should act in case something like this would happen, but I am sure that they do not teach the same attitudes and methods as they do in west.

So please people don't act all high and mighty, and think "this is what I would have done" when I, you and everyone else knows that you are not most likely going to have the "spirit" to act instantly. (Note: I do not assume that you would just walk past ignoring her either), but if you do, !GZ! you have a good human "spirit" and have most likely seen something like that happen earlier in your life and were unable to help.

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

Woah... really!?
People say that'd we'd all do the same, but I would help her.
I would always help somebody.

Also i have first-aid training, so i would sort of be obligated to...

 

[Urgh76]

inb4 I don´t want to live on this planet anymore

Aww dammit.

OT: ........

I don't want to live on this planet anymore

 

[thecoreyhlltt]

China's the new New York

 

[RagTagBand]

Bystander effect, And I patronizingly chuckle at everyone here who is saying "I dont care what universal human psychology says I WOULD BE DIFFERENT"

Yes, of course you would be. You're neo and you have the power to change the matrix at will.

I've seen experiments carried out in England and America showing every day people sitting in a room while smoke billows under the door and nobody getting up to leave...because they don't want to be the first person to react to it. I've seen experiments where more than half of the people involved (65%+) will torture a person to death if told to do so by someone in authority.

But "oh no, thats China for you", "Oh look what communism does to people", "I would spring into action and these people don't have any excuse for their inaction"

Its universal, it's universal, its universal and so is stupidity but it seems only the minority of people here escape that psychological net too.

 

[Mrmac23]

This is why i like the idea of being an evil dictator. Because then i can pass a law that enables you to, if you do something like this, be OFFICIALLY DISOWNED FROM THE HUMAN RACE.