Chivalry

[game-lover]

I like chivalry.

And quite frankly, I hardly think it's sexist or anti feminist or whatever. And this is coming from a female.

Perhaps people dislike it because it falls into the category of many double standards and catch-22s. I see it more of a nice bit of politeness for the "fairer" as opposed to weaker.

I include things like a man walking on the outside of the street while the female is inside as to protect her from the cars and stuff. Or like back in England and stuff when people dumped trash and waste out their windows so men walked near the inside so they'd be more likely to be hit by the sludge and other unpleasant things.

Or laying your jacket over a puddle so they don't get wet.

 

[bushwhacker2k]

1st, anyone who complains when someone holds a door for them needs to see a therapist.

2nd, I find that I hold the door for both genders, so rather than chivalry I prefer politeness.

Also, isn't it the fairer sex?

 

[gamerguyal]

While I don't actively treat women differently than men, sometimes I do catch myself inadvertently doing it with a female friend. sometimes it's being a good friend, but most of the time it's that sentiment that's driven into the minds of most males; treat women nicely, with respect, and "don't hit girls". That being said, if I'm interested in a girl I will certainly show it by treating her differently than I would others, but that's expected.

BTW, as for holding doors open, I have one thing to say about that. When I hold a door for someone, regardless of gender, I will rarely go so far as to hold the door open as they pass through, but instead I will hand the door to them, so to speak. This has basically the same effect, they just have to grab the handle of the door from me instead of reaching for it and puling the door open. It's a little convenient for them, and I don't have to make it look like I'm trying to patronize anybody.

 

[TheDarkestDerp]

How is showing courtesy to a woman archaic? Because its old? does that mean living in a house is archaic? or eating at a table? (I refuse to use your malaproper of "Prehistoric" as History was being recorded at the time.) And you are uninformed on the definition of Chivalry, it does not mean "Show false courtesy to women and treat them like they are prizes to be won." it means to act in a courtly manner to all people. Chivalry was devised to keep Knights from being the complete monsters they were in war while at home; it taught humility, discipline, honor and reason. It was a strict set of rules that Knights were to follow at all times. But of course there are certain Knights who did not follow theese rules and they were dishonerable bastards who dont deserve a mention here, much like anyone who complains about a woman not liking them despite their calm, supportive, pleasant attitude to them; they are not true "nice guy" they put on a facade of "nice guy" in an attempt to woo the lady, a true "nice guy" is nice to EVERYONE regardless of theyre status as a potential partner or not. And as to your opinion of some people "Acting like They're 65." I must say that these values were instilled in us by our parents and so maybe its just that we were raised in a different environment than you that instilled in us these qualities you desperatly wish would go the way of the dodo.

*smiles broadly and applauds* Nice. It's pleasant to see someone point out that just because a values system is older, that doesn't mean it's out of date or no longer valid. The chivalric code has roots in a very well thought system and served a good purpose then, and still does today, no matter how much our society has evolved. As someone who has met WAY too many "nice" guys putting on "chivalrous" airs in an attempt to impress, I agree pretty much with everything you presented.

I met a young Brit fellow who treated me in a genuinely chivalrous manner, which was frankly enthralling BECAUSE his display was genuine. *gushes* It was nice to have a man treat me so respectfully and kindly, but seeing that he was the same with others, female or male, that he was true of nature and purpose, made him an exceptional person in my eyes and my heart. His being "old fashioned" might have made him an anachronism to some of his friends, but it didn't seem to concern him and it certainly didn't upset me.

Actually, knights were not like how they are portrayed in media; they rarely followed the code they claimed to. The closest analogy I can think of to a knight is actually a mob enforcer.

Yes yes, just as most hippies weren't actually open-minded lovers of peace and such and so-on ans were never interested in changing the world for the better, but their ideals and the origins of their ideals were still good, just as the original concept of chivalry was good. That's all I said.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

Those old traditions of holding a door for a lady, standing up when talking to a lady, taking off your hat when in an elevator with a lady... you catch my drift. I'm talking about chivalry.

Guys holding doors for me is nice (and kind of romantic). Standing up would be... weird. Also, I never really thought about the hat thing being part of chivalry.

I mean, when I think of chivalry, I think of men dueling for the honor of sleeping with me. Two handsome knights, fighting with swords, just to be with me.

I could use more of that.

Of course, there is the issue of sexism. So hot women could also fight for me. ^^

I'll stop now, before I bring up the warm oil wrestling....