Christianity VS Homosexuality

[interspark]

who wants a mentally stimulating discusion!? what are the views of christianity when it comes to gay people/marriage and how valid are said views?

personally i just think it's the modern christian viewpoint of "be exatly like me or burn in hell" and i'll be damned if the bible says a word against it, my history isn't great, but i'm pretty sure that homosexuality has only been around for 1,000 years, tops, christianity has been around for 2,000, and anyway, it's programmed in our biology, so technically it's "god's" work,

anyway, discuss!

EDIT: ok, about 50% of people so far have just insulted me instead of actually contributing, please don't, we're here to discuss, not be irritating trolls

 

[BiscuitWheels]

What? Homosexuality only existing for the last 1,000 years? I think ancient Greece would like a word or two. There's a few passages in the Bible, mostly in the mean ol' Testament days that might say something about it. And after that, I think it's the gospel of St. John and not the big JC that speaks out against it in the New Testament. But I'm sure as shooting no expert.

 

[DrgoFx]

Er...I'm unsure what is the discussion here. But in the book Leviticus, the sin that is homosexuality is mentioned. "One shall not sleep with a man as he does with a woman." My problem is that this is enforced, but nothing else in the book is. According to Leviticus, round hair cuts are a sin [most guys in their 20's that are not Guidos]. It also says eating pork and shellfish are wrong, getting your fortune told and tattoos. Above all, playing with pig skin is a sin. The ball in American Football is made of pig skin.

This not only makes me enraged that one would take one of these out to enforce just because they don't like it, but also that so many people blindly follow such a cause without knowing all details.

 

[Gammayun]

Just saying but isn?t this suppose to be apart of the Religion and Politics forum. Don?t worry about it though.

OT: I hope this post is not just another attempt at getting lots of view by saying something controversial

 

[InsanityRequiem]

Here we go. God made humanity, therefore making humanity's sexuality. Which means God made Hetero, Homo, Bi, etc. As God infused a slight bit of essence into humanity to give us the free will we have, God told us that we cannot judge ourselves.

Therefore, from my understanding, by condemning non-Heterosexual people to Hell, you are committing the greatest of blasphemes against God. For you are condemning God to Hell, as we as a species are based off God.

 

[Colour Scientist]

i'm pretty sure that homosexuality has only been around for 1,000 years, tops

I don't mean to pick on you but... whut? Where did you get that little nugget of information?

 

[Jonluw]

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"Homosexuality has been around for 1,000 years tops."
Lol wut? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty]

In any case, from what I've been taught, the central pillar of christian ethics is Love.
I don't see hate for a group being consistent with these ethics.

 

[Aerodyamic]

... but i'm pretty sure that homosexuality has only been around for 1,000 years, tops, christianity has been around for 2,000

Various species of monkey have been practicing homosexuality for as long as human beings have been able to effective study them (and record the data in an unbiased manner), and rats have been found to display homosexual tendencies under population pressure. I don't know if the rats revert to heterosexual behaviours once the population pressures are reduced, but if you get enough rats in a cage, more and more of them will engage in non-reproductive sex, so long as the population pressure is too high.

Also, Christianity is an amalgam of a lot of different prior religions; Zoroastrianism is one of the first functionally monotheistic religions, and anthropologists believe it predates Christianity by about 1,000 years.

 

[Popadoo]

Homosexuality has been around for...1,000 years?
...
I'm not sure how to reply to this, other than pretty much every species of animal practices homosexuality.
...
Seriously, what the fuck?

 

[Esotera]

It's ok to ignore history, the Greeks definitely didn't practice homosexuality, and they were definitely not older than 1000 years as a civilisation. Agree with what I think is your general point otherwise.

 

[ChildishLegacy]

What so somebody just decided to be homosexual 1000 years ago then taught it from then on? Like some kind of gay prophet? That actually would make things interesting if homosexuality turned out to be a religion too.

Although I think that's a tiny bit unlikely.

 

[rob]

I don't think its that mentally stimulating its only something that further imparts the notion of difference between groups of humans sexuality does not define a person some choose to let it define them but actions define a person thats what set a person apart be they good or bad.

Thankfully the god squad is not a homogenous unit, its a grouping of about 35,000 denominations or sects which beleive in monotheism thats about where it stops, they can't agree on anything more than that and never will. Some think gays should be burnt where as some want to hug them and give them cookies, pick the best one and bring me the cookies.

Their views are not valid because they're based on 2000 year old dogma and tradiotion which has npot evolved or developed. As a human with civil rights and the abilty to express an opinion they are entitled to voice that, i'd never take that away from somone but there is no validity in it because it has no basis in ration or logical thought.

 

[interspark]

but i'm pretty sure that homosexuality has only been around for 1,000 years, tops, christianity has been around for 2,000,

I hope you are joking bro. I really do.

ok, i said my history's not great, if you'd rather be insulting and sarcastic than actually contribute, then a word of warning, don't, people generally don't like that

 

[Hero in a half shell]

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That was awesome!

Although I'm pretty sure this is just a troll thread, what with the 1000 years of homosexuality comment.

As a Christian I do believe that Homosexuality is a sin, but only in the same way lying, or stealing, or being greedy is a sin. It's not somehow worse than all the other sins, or specifically unforgivable. It's called a sin in Leviticus, but also mentioned in the New Testament as a sinful activity, again, on an equal footing with lying, stealing etc.

And I really don't get the whole 'nature vs. nurture' arguement when it comes to homosexuality. Thanks to the fall all sins come naturally to us, so homosexuality would obviously also be a naturally occuring sin in some people.

And finally I must stress that even though I hold these beliefs I do not believe that I have the right to force them on other people. If there are non-Christian homosexuals out there, why should they be forced to follow my God that they don't believe in? Sure, a completely heterosexual country would be nice, but it's not feasible or even ethical when you take the freedoms and rights of other people into consideration.
I support religious freedom that gives me the right not to have to compromise my beliefs, but also allows people of different beliefs to practice them without persecution.

 

[Hazy992]

personally i just think it's the modern christian viewpoint of "be exatly like me or burn in hell"

Nope. Homosexuality is mentioned in the Bible a couple of times, the most famous being Leviticus 18:22 [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+18%3A22&version=NIV]. Not to mention that the Bible states that sex should only be for procreation, something same-sex couples can't do with each other.

i'm pretty sure that homosexuality has only been around for 1,000 years, tops, christianity has been around for 2,000, and anyway, it's programmed in our biology, so technically it's "god's" work

No seriously, as others have mentioned, homosexuality has been around for far longer. Just look at Ancient Greece and Rome. Besides, how can it be programmed in our biology if your claim it's only been around for 1,000 years is true? Evolution doesn't work that fast.

 

[lRookiel]

Perhaps the thread should be moved to the Religion and politics section :3

OT: I got nothing....