Cigarettes should be illegal.

[Random Argument Man]

What I put in my body is no business of yours. I won't arrive in public and smoke you in the face though.

I would appreciate if people stopped being "anti-smoking" just for the sake of it. I'm happy when friends and family that cares about me say that I should stop taking the occasional smoke. Although, I don't get when random people goes out and give me a speech on the dangers of smoking when they won't remember about me tomorow.

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

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[Terratina.]

Yep, agree with OT, but also agree with Wandering_Hero. Problem is, there's a lot of money and a lot of lobbyists in that business. But I wouldn't exactly go up to a smoker and punch the cigarette out of their face.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

What I put in my body is no business of yours. I won't arrive in public and smoke you in the face though.

I would appreciate if people stopped being "anti-smoking" just for the sake of it. I'm happy when friends and family that cares about me say that I should stop taking the occasional smoke. Although, I don't get when random people goes out and give me a speech on the dangers of smoking when they won't remember about me tomorow.

Indeed.

I go on about how bad cigarettes are to my parents, because, well, they're my parents.

I'm not going to stop some random guy on the street and preach at him.

 

[Kordie]

Weed is less harmful than cigarettes. At least weed help people in a way. That and it's natural unlike the thousands of chemicals in the average cigarette. And in what way does a cigarette help anybody. If you know a way please tell me. But they should just ban them without hesitation.

Saying something is "natural" is a ridiculous arguement. Plenty of natural things are harmful. Nobody here's going to dispute the harm cigarettes can do, but I also suspect cannabis is not nearly as harmless as you seem to think. For example, some claim cannabis can cause fear, anxiety, distrust, increased heart rate, lower blood pressure, co-ordination issues, memory issues and perception distortion. Now, all of these are contested issues, as are the health benefits, so an outright replacing of cigarettes with cannabis is probably a bad idea as of yet.

Second, people can smoke cigarettes for stress relief, the social aspect, for the taste or maybe even as a way of focusing oneself or concentrating. None of these are physically helpful, and of course will, in the long run, lead to damage, but they're still ways in which people can be helped by smoking.

Finally, as much as I'm favour of some form of controlled legalisation of cannabis, it's unlikely to be all as peachy-perfect as you make it out to be. Certainly the wrong answer would be to ban cigarettes, especially if your answer to that is to then all but replace them with cannabis. Controls on smoking in public places, especially indoors are sensible and for the benefit of the public, but above and beyond that it's no-one's business but their, your or my own when, where, if or how many they, you or I smoke.

Hey man, don't knock natural products. The earth wouldn't want to hurt us...

http://listverse.com/2011/07/02/top-10-plants-that-will-kill-you/

I hate that "natural=good" argument.

*edit* also read the post above me, it has a lot of good points ^

 

[SpectacularWebHead]

I dislike cigarettes as much as anyone, but who am I to tell people how to live their lives?

I do not wish to live in a nanny state, and neither should you.

Also, weed has potential harmful side effects in the same way drunkenness has potential harmful side effects.

People do stupid things when drunk, so I can't imagine the number of 'heavy machinery' accidents caused by people who are high all the time.

You can keep a clearer Head on weed.
I'm not saying "Take some weed then go drive a forklift"*, But weed allows you to retain more control over yourself. And weed has no long term side effects. It's not even as addictive as Ciggarettes or Booze, and it certainly won't fuck up any of your major organs as those two.

As for the ciggarettes OP, I kinda agree with you. They should phase it out until it gets too hard for people to even start, like, slowly reduce the number of ciggarettes being made.



*When I say "I'm not saying "Take some weed then go drive a forklift"", what I mean is , "Don't take some weed then drive a forklift without having someone there to film it for you."

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

And in what way does a cigarette help anybody.

You do realize you can use that argument for anything?

Video games, movies, soft drinks, candy, chocolate, sports, reality TV, mascara, alcohol, strobe lights, whatever. It's called a recreational activity for a reason, because people want to do it despite better intentions. (All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy...)

Also, you cannot simply ban an international multi-million industry that employs thousands to millions of people that has millions of people hooked to, on the basis that it's bad for you. Look at prohibition, people get buttmad.

 

[Moderated]

What if they ban the selling of cigarettes to anyone who isn't already addicted?
Those people will be on file and they order them online from a special store. That way when they die, no one will be addicted, and they can fully ban them. Well, if everything goes perfectly, which it probably won't.

 

[SpectacularWebHead]

I dislike cigarettes as much as anyone, but who am I to tell people how to live their lives?

I do not wish to live in a nanny state, and neither should you.

Also, weed has potential harmful side effects in the same drunkenness has potential harmful side effects.

People do stupid things when drunk, so I can't imagine the number of 'heavy machinery' accidents caused by people who are high all the time.

Yeah, that.
I dont like smoking, people who smoke... stink. To put it bluntly. You don't notice it when you're around smoke but when you're not it hits you like a wall of gross.

But if people wanna do it then that's their choice.

Live with two parents that smoke for 16 years, after I while, people start to think you stink as well. the worst part is telling adamently teachers that you don't smoke. Irony being if I did they wouldn't notice, cuz the damage has been done.

 

[Phasmal]

Live with two parents that smoke for 16 years, after I while, people start to think you stink as well. the worst part is telling adamently teachers that you don't smoke. Irony being if I did they wouldn't notice, cuz the damage has been done.

Preaching to the choir my friend, my mother is a chain-smoker. I used to totally not notice the smell, but now, everytime she sends me a package in the post- when I open it, it's like a puff of smoke comes out. If she sends me any clothes I have to wash them before I wear them, but I don't tell her that.
I totally used to get the `you've been smoking` look from my teachers too.

 

[RedLister]

No. You have no right to tell other people what they can and can't put in their bodies. If you don't want in public places that's one thing, but outright banning it is another.

How does alcohol actually help people? It's the same argument.

This sums it up.

But lets say cigarettes were banned. I don't know about other countries but in the UK quite a fair bit of tax revenue comes from cigarettes. So if they were banned expect a big rise of tax on your paycheck etc.

Don't use the "it cost the NHS millions a year" either. Said duty tax on cigarettes from the smoker will pay for there treatment four times over.

 

[SpectacularWebHead]

Live with two parents that smoke for 16 years, after I while, people start to think you stink as well. the worst part is telling adamently teachers that you don't smoke. Irony being if I did they wouldn't notice, cuz the damage has been done.

Preaching to the choir my friend, my mother is a chain-smoker. I used to totally not notice the smell, but now, everytime she sends me a package in the post- when I open it, it's like a puff of smoke comes out. If she sends me any clothes I have to wash them before I wear them, but I don't tell her that.
I totally used to get the `you've been smoking` look from my teachers too.

I got a "Talk" once from my year head. It was so akward. I can't notice the smell, at all, of any smoker anywhere. Which is a slight plus, I guess.

 

[Hazy992]

No. You have no right to tell other people what they can and can't put in their bodies. If you don't want in public places that's one thing, but outright banning it is another.

How does alcohol actually help people? It's the same argument.

This sums it up.

But lets say cigarettes were banned. I don't know about other countries but in the UK quite a fair bit of tax revenue comes from cigarettes. So if they were banned expect a big rise of tax on your paycheck etc.

Don't use the "it cost the NHS millions a year" either. Said duty tax on cigarettes from the smoker will pay for there treatment four times over.

I'm glad you brought that up because I was ready for someone to make that argument. Nipped it in the bud

 

[PMorgan18]

Weed is less harmful than cigarettes. At least weed help people in a way. That and it's natural unlike the thousands of chemicals in the average cigarette. And in what way does a cigarette help anybody. If you know a way please tell me. But they should just ban them without hesitation.

Well, cannabis has side effects similar to alcohol. We have enough problems with drunk driving I don't want to add them to the mix. The cigarette industry produces jobs as well and if you read and/or watch the news at all you can tell that jobs are in demand.

 

[neversleep]

I find it curious that you attack cigarettes, and not alcohol, when clearly the latter is the greater evil.

EDIT: I don't disagree though... Just realized that that didn't really come through in the post.

Not trying to be offensive, honest!

Welcome back, you were gone a while.

OT: Personally, I think that anyone should be able to do anything so long as they're in private and it's all consensual. Simplified view, of course.
Also, the "it's dangerous/not dangerous so we shouldn't/should use it" is a fucking stupid argument.

Anyone else thinking that this is just some 14 year old trying to find a way to justify smoking weed to himself?

It might be. On the other hand, I like weed and much prefer it to alcohol. That might be because it's easy to get around here and not that tightly controlled. Or because my family has a history with alcoholism.

And even though I am a smoker. I technically agree with alcohol and cigarettes being banned. But the world has bigger problems and drinking and smoking take the edge off, so i really don't see the point in banning them.

 

[ElPatron]

Let's ban murder and robbery. That will work perfectly!

Also, telling adults how to live their lives? lol have fun with that.

I then smiled at him, while I lighted up a cigarette.

There is one with the Marlboro man lighting one and saying "I smoke Marlboro, you smoke cock" but I wouldn't post that image as a reply, lol.

 

[Jazoni89]

Let's ban murder and robbery. That will work perfectly!

Also, telling adults how to live their lives? lol have fun with that.

I then smiled at him, while I lighted up a cigarette.

There is one with the Marlboro man lighting one and saying "I smoke Marlboro, you smoke cock" but I wouldn't post that image as a reply, lol.

Marlboro is such a hipster brand, especially in the UK, as hardly anyone smokes them.

Lambert and Butler, Sorveign, and Mayfair are the ones to go for.

It's a shame that most retailers put their cigarettes behind white doors now, it just proves how much of a nanny state we are.

But they are allowed to show off the lighters and lighter fluid, like that isn't dangerous...

 

[Riki Darnell]

I find it curious that you attack cigarettes, and not alcohol, when clearly the latter is the greater evil.

EDIT: I don't disagree though... Just realized that that didn't really come through in the post.

Not trying to be offensive, honest!

How is alcohol worse? You can get lung cancer from second hand smoke, I've never heard of getting cirrhosis of the liver from second hand drinks lol. But that's why I've always considered cigs worse is you can be affected by one even if you yourself don't smoke. But if someone is drinking next to you, you aren't gunna get any side effects. (I'm not anti-cigs, drinks, or pot btw to each his own)

 

[Vuliev]

See, I don't think tobacco should be banned, just cigarettes--and even then, only the heavily mass-produced, preservative/chemical-filled ones. I don't see why the government can't just stop raising taxes, and instead actually force tobacco companies to make cigarettes healthier (relatively speaking. )

Seriously, the difference in smoke quality between cigar and rolled, and then between rolled and pre-packed, is almost astounding. I don't see why pre-packed cigarettes can't at least smell like tobacco and not chemically-saturated paper.

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

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