Cigarettes should be illegal.

[solemnwar]

I find it curious that you attack cigarettes, and not alcohol, when clearly the latter is the greater evil.

EDIT: I don't disagree though... Just realized that that didn't really come through in the post.

Not trying to be offensive, honest!

How is alcohol worse? You can get lung cancer from second hand smoke, I've never heard of getting cirrhosis of the liver from second hand drinks lol. But that's why I've always considered cigs worse is you can be affected by one even if you yourself don't smoke. But if someone is drinking next to you, you aren't gunna get any side effects. (I'm not anti-cigs, drinks, or pot btw to each his own)

A person drinking is more likely to make poor decisions. Such as getting into a car. Which can then hit someone. And kill them. Or severely injure them. Cause destruction of property when they run it into a building.

And on the topic of second hand smoke, considering that most places ban smoking and you can only do it outside or in your own home now, it's fairly easy to just like... move away from the smoker. Although it is pretty shitty for children who have to live with smokers.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Weed is less harmful than cigarettes. At least weed help people in a way. That and it's natural unlike the thousands of chemicals in the average cigarette. And in what way does a cigarette help anybody. If you know a way please tell me. But they should just ban them without hesitation.

Swear words before 9 are also less harmful than cigarettes, but that doesn't mean they should be banned. Weed isn't traditional, cigarettes are. Millions of people smoke cigarettes, masses of money come in from cigarettes in the forms of tax on the product, tax on the company and income tax. Not only would the government lose out on all that cash, thousands upon thousands of people would lose their jobs in a time where there aren't enough jobs to go around already.

Jumping off cliffs is pretty harmful, and messy, but it isn't banned. Just because cigarettes cause health problems doesn't make them evil or mean that people shouldn't be allowed to smoke them.

 

[Elate]

That and it's natural unlike the thousands of chemicals in the average cigarette.

Implying that cigarettes aren't natural?

Let me introduce you to the tobacco plant.

I don't care, frankly. People can kill themselves in whatever way they wish, who am I to tell them it's illegal to damage their own health? Y'know, suicide isn't illegal either? Maybe we should make that illegal too. It's damaging your own health after all.

 

[00slash00]

or, just make weed legal. its your body, you have the right to do what you want with it

 

[Rick Oortwijn]

99% of people I know, smoke weed in combination with tobacco, probably different in other countries but the argument is pretty much invalid. And yes alcohol kills more people even though cigarettes are are always harmful.. bla bla bla.

You know what the real point is, government can't afford to ban cigarettes, they depend too much on the taxes gained from them. Seriously it would create a huge gap in their finances plus another criminal circuit which law enforcers must adress.

 

[solemnwar]

That and it's natural unlike the thousands of chemicals in the average cigarette.

Implying that cigarettes aren't natural?

Let me introduce you to the tobacco plant.

I don't care, frankly. People can kill themselves in whatever way they wish, who am I to tell them it's illegal to damage their own health? Y'know, suicide isn't illegal either? Maybe we should make that illegal too. It's damaging your own health after all.

It used to be illegal. Attempted suicide was punishable. I'm not sure if it still is... I think at that point, though they make you take counciling, now. It's definitely illegal to help someone off themselves.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Cars under a certain gas mileage should be illegal, stupid people should be illegal, drugs not so much as banning it creates more trouble.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

I'm perfectly fine with making cigarette smoking "illegal" in public as long as the government uses the tax revenew from cigarettes to build smoking designated areas. That way, smokers can still smoke in public but they'd be segregated from non smokers.

Can we do that with cars too? They pollute way more than any smoker!

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I don't smoke, I don't plan to smoke but I still get sick of people attacking smokers. People smoke outside in public places because there is no inside for them to legally smoke in anymore after all (in the US anyway). Bring back smoking sections in bars and restaurants and you'll find less people loitering outside of places by the doorways. If you're in a public park though, or any other public, outdoor area, I don't see any problem in people smoking.

 

[Stripes]

I think smoking them outside should be curbed, or at least reduced in public areas, but not banned.

I dislike when I go to somewhere like a hospital or shopping centre and I have to walk through the cloud of smoke caused by all the smokers.

We banned smoking in any public building, as in a bilding with access to the public. Things feel so much cleaner now, when you go abroad you notice just how awful it is when people smoke in an enclosed area.

OP, how does something being natural or unnatural change hoow good/bad it is? Also how does Weed help people, aside from medicinal uses? (genuine question).

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

We're just going around in circles here. Not selling alcohol to minors isn't comparable. It is vastly easier to stop minors from buying alcohol then it would be a pregnant woman.

This is the part where I bring up your previous comment about pregnant women drinking at home. How do you stop kids form stealing their parent alcohol when they are not looking?

Kids drinking isn't illegal (at least it's not here). It's selling them the alcohol in the first place. Not selling a minor alcohol is a lot easier than not selling a pregnant woman alcohol.

Ok, while here it is illegal for children to consume alcohol.

 

[solemnwar]

I don't smoke, I don't plan to smoke but I still get sick of people attacking smokers. People smoke outside in public places because there is no inside for them to legally smoke in anymore after all (in the US anyway). Bring back smoking sections in bars and restaurants and you'll find less people loitering outside of places by the doorways. If you're in a public park though, or any other public, outdoor area, I don't see any problem in people smoking.

The only time people should attack smokers is when the douchey ones decide to blow the smoke right in your face. Then the ************ deserves a good right hook to the mouth.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Can we do that with cars too? They pollute way more than any smoker!

Cars are a "necessity", cigarettes are not. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to compromise.

Cars are not a necessity for the populace. For a select few who can drive sanely maybe but not for the masses who constantly abuse it.

 

[Elate]

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Yes I am aware of all of that, what's your point though? Homosexuality used to be illegal too, lookie I can make arbitrary points as well. Guess that should be illegal too actually, putting things in your ass can be causing harm to oneself if you don't do it properly.

Oh god, what about over eating, that causes serious harm, we should make that illegal, and put limits on the amount of food people are allowed to buy. Using computers to long as been proven to damage the body, we better have computers auto-shut down when they've been logged in for too long, and not start up for 1 hour. Drinking? Liver damage, must be made illegal. Staying in the sun too long causes sun burn, everyone must wear max factor sun lotion, if not they get a $2000 fine and possible prison time.

But wait.. Being in prison seriously endangers ones life, with all the shanking, that should be made illegal too, so, people who go to prison are constantly committing a crime.. THUS WE MUST EXECUTE THEM.

DO YOU SEE HOW SILLY THIS GETS?! People should be able to do, what they want, with their body. Anything, so long as it doesn't hard others, cocaine, heroin, weed, tobacco, alcohol, you name it. Sure give them counseling and inform them of the dangers, but at the end of the day, it's their choice.

 

[Imper1um]

I dislike cigarettes as much as anyone, but who am I to tell people how to live their lives?

The same argument could be made for Marijuana. If you want to ban Marijuana (which has no permanent harmful effects), then you should ban Cigs too because then you're "Telling people how to live their life".

To me, I think you can't have it both ways. You ban both or you ban neither, because the thing is, Cigs are harmful to not only yourself, but to others. Meanwhile, those that smoke Marijuana, regardless of the closeness to another smoker, don't cause any harmful effects.

So, that's my argument.

 

[godofslack]

Absolutely not, the silly argument that a substance is harmful that it should be banned for consumption is so disingenuous, the belief that big brother is watching out for me so he'll send me to prison for years because I am harming myself. It's stupid, the mere idea that an adult can't make their own decisions about their health, is insulting. Regardless even if I did prescribe to that nanny state stuff, I'd still think it's a stupid idea because making drugs illegal makes them profitable for drug cartels. By banning cigarettes you'd instantly displace tons of jobs, cost your country a major industry and increase crime.