Clarksons done it again A SECOND TIME!

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jim_doki

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Qayin said:
Did I read a different news article to everyone else? Here was me thinking he'd just gotten away with, I don't know, exercising his right to free speech?

He and May both made fun of retards on air when Hampster came back, and there was little outcry. a few people complained, yes, and that should have made him think before he opened his mouth, apparently, despite saying some very clever and funny things, he hasn't learned that trick yet.

Are you telling us Clarkson genuinely hurt your feelings? Despite the fact that you do not know the man, have most likely never met him, and have no real reason to be truly offended and slighted?

I'm hoping you just worded that wrong, but it seems that many people are acting as if Clarkson slept with their mothers and made jokes about it the following morning.
Policemen get enough crap taking away junkies, helping battered women and getting yelled at by speeding drivers without having to put up with being made fun of on national TV. They do a fine job and Clarkson made them out like worthless peons. I'm sorry that you think i'm out of line for thinking that might have crossed a line.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
I'm just waiting to see Gene Hunt as the "Star in the Reasonably Priced Car".

"What's up, Hamster? 'fraid this car's gonna flip on ya?"

Gene Hunt for Prime Minister, that's what I'm saying.
 

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Jim Doki I would like you to gather up your fellow offended and complain the Australian Topgear off the air so we can get the real version back. Either that or just stop using your free speech to attack his.
 

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Policemen get enough crap taking away junkies, helping battered women and getting yelled at by speeding drivers without having to put up with being made fun of on national TV. They do a fine job and Clarkson made them out like worthless peons. I'm sorry that you think i'm out of line for thinking that might have crossed a line.
I'd say that with his news columns, magazine articles and Top Gear combined, he must have made fun of most demographics by now.

He's taken the piss out of demographics I belong to many a times - yet I laugh, whilst the lorry drivers apparently send thousands of complaints.

I just think the whole thing is really exaggerated - it isn't a big deal, really, and it shouldn't be considered big news. There have always been, and will always be comedians that try to risk straining the boundaries of political correctness, I just don't see why anyone cares what one man says.

If he had gotten the audience to engage in a hate-rally, I would see what the fuss is about, but he's just one man, making jokes.
 

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I have a dream where Alan Titchmarsh is on every channel with music by Daniel O Donnel where the cast of Mock the Week and Buzzcocks are carted off to an internment camp in Kent where busses of the Blue rinse Brigade go on coach trips to tazer there Genitals daily. Where Jonathon Ross and Russel Brand have been the target of a Holy Crusade and there heads adorn Gordon Browns magical headress.

where there is to be no sex standing up "It may lead to dancing" and it's fine to be an exotic dancer who does lesbian bondage shows daily as long as your grandad was the star of a popular 70's sitcom....

So there may still be hope for Kate Beckinsale, I am now off to Flagellate myself for having impure thoughts, although Miss Sachs may do it for me for £120.
 

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hypothetical fact said:
Jim Doki I would like you to gather up your fellow offended and complain the Australian Topgear off the air so we can get the real version back. Either that or just stop using your free speech to attack his.
I'm not "attacking", although im not surprised you think I am. All i'm saying is that I think he crossed a line. It may have been funny, but i'm just saying to do this, and so soon after he already got into serious trouble, was an oversight on his part. and you're right, i probably would have laughed, but then again I laughed harder when he nearly got killed by americans.

Qayin said:
I'd say that with his news columns, magazine articles and Top Gear combined, he must have made fun of most demographics by now.

He's taken the piss out of demographics I belong to many a times - yet I laugh, whilst the lorry drivers apparently send thousands of complaints.

I just think the whole thing is really exaggerated - it isn't a big deal, really, and it shouldn't be considered big news. There have always been, and will always be comedians that try to risk straining the boundaries of political correctness, I just don't see why anyone cares what one man says.

If he had gotten the audience to engage in a hate-rally, I would see what the fuss is about, but he's just one man, making jokes.
you are right, and the reaction isn't the greatest thing i've ever seen, but to be honest i'm shocked everyone is so surprised it's happening
 
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The_root_of_all_evil said:
I'm just waiting to see Gene Hunt as the "Star in the Reasonably Priced Car".

"What's up, Hamster? 'fraid this car's gonna flip on ya?"

Gene Hunt for Prime Minister, that's what I'm saying.
Now that would be someone worth voting for.
"Right, all you ponces get down the banks and give them a slap, get our economy back. Bollocks to these anti-smoking and drinking crap, I'm making being a vegetarian illegal. All those women need is a good bit of meat in their mouth.
And you, Boothroyd, make me a cuppa. 2 sugars, love."
 
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jim_doki said:
and you're right, i probably would have laughed, but then again I laughed harder when he nearly got killed by americans.
This is the thing. Clarkson is a dinosaur and he crosses both lines.

We, however, need our Clarkson's, Paxman's to combat our Brown's/Blair's.

Pushing the line is fine, stepping on the line just for exposure is naff.

And given America's Gilbert Gottfried, (Told a 9/11 joke three weeks after it happened) it's not just a Brit thing.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
curlycrouton said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
I'm just waiting to see Gene Hunt as the "Star in the Reasonably Priced Car".

"What's up, Hamster? 'fraid this car's gonna flip on ya?"

Gene Hunt for Prime Minister, that's what I'm saying.
Now that would be someone worth voting for.
"Right, all you ponces get down the banks and give them a slap, get our economy back. Bollocks to these anti-smoking and drinking crap, I'm making being a vegetarian illegal.
And you, Boothroyd, make me a cuppa. 2 sugars, love."
This, sirs, is how the future should be.
 

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mackemsniper said:
No way!

Top Gear is one of the only TV shows I watch any more. If anything, he should ramp it up, get taken off the air, and then let's watch how the Beeb's audience figures take a dive. (Top Gear is one of the BBC's most watched programmes, both here and abroad.)

People all over the world watch it for the antics and the humour, and perhaps a little of the nice cars.

I recommend that you go back to watching unoffensive, dumb, middle-class ITV dramas...
ok, one, dont insult me like that. I have no problem watching people say fuck or **** or insulting minorities on air. I have absolutely no problem with Clarkson himself or the way he presents his show.

BUT

he's in hot water as it is, already in trouble for saying something he knew would offend (he knew it, ok? he's not an idiot) and he follows it up by lying to and insulting a police officer. he's been getting away with murder since day one and now people are starting to get a little annoyed at his crap

now, i know he's not malicious and he's not really out to hurt anyone, but launching two stupid attacks back to back in as many weeks is not only hurtful, but also very, VERY stupid.
So?

He goes around offending Northerners, but am I offended? No. Because I know he doesn't mean it, and - here's the crux of the argument - IT'S FUNNY!

Do you think all truck drivers are offended at his comments? No, they aren't. And they would've found the comments as funny as everyone else.

I can't see how he's being stupid when he hosts the BBC's most popular programme! Even if he gets into hot water with the odd loose comment, his programme is still doing excellent business for the BBC.

Edit - Regarding the policemen: they were being pedantic about visas. They deserved the mockery.
 

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OK, say someone got really quite offended by what Clarkson said. So fucking what? What do they want, Jeremy Clarkson, after all these years, to be sacked over that? Would it honestly make a bit of difference to their lives whether hes out of the BBC or not? Viewers fucking suck.
 

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Surely everyone who watches Top Gear would be used to his humour by now? A top guy from a major trucking company actually said "They were just having a laugh. It?s the 21st Century, let?s get our sense of humour in line." So whats the problem? British people just seem to thrive on complaining and queueing.
 

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The British public have a unquenchable thirst to 'bring people down a peg'. We can't stand it when people do well for themselves and are in the public eye. We can't wait for them to slip up so we can start flinging mud. Whats that? Not a real slip up but a brash, unapologetic, well off, middle aged Northerner is exercising his right to say what he wants? We can't have that, let the mud slinging begin! Bring him down a peg or two.

This happens time and time again in this country. Look at the way newspapers tear into celebrities and sportsmen when they make, often, minor slip ups. Victoria Beckham lets slip that David may have worn her underwear once and the press goes mental. Kerry Katona(sp?) continues to exist and the press goes mental. Its disgraceful.

I'm not trying to say that people in the public eye are above critism. Far from it. But the levels and lengths the press will go to to sensationalise otherwise trivial stories is beyond me. I remember being forwarded a link from the daily mail website that was critising a Mock the Week repeat for taking the micky out of the Queen. It was a horrible attempt to continue the snowball rolling from the Brand/Ross incident.

Frankly there are plently of things going on world wide that should be in the news in more prominant positions than these stories that serve no other perpose than to fuel public discorse(sp?)

/rant
 

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The people who watch top gear (like me) are exactly the kind of people that find this funny. They have been taking the piss for years and no one cared. Now there Manda Podium.
The "apology" section on sunday ep was hilarious as well.

Also do people think that this series running new joke will be:-
"Are you wearing that for a bet?"
 

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Yeah, if you go by the iPlayer, the most popular BBC comedy at present is the REPEAT showings of 'Mock the Week' which roundly offends about 90% of the planet every 2 minutes, and quite possibly the only BBC at present I'd bother switching on for. Yes at the moment my licence fee pays for mock the week.

After Richard Hammond crashed that jetcar at 300mph, wasn't it Frankie Boyle who said -

'You know the Government should have a new anti speeding campaign - just a shot of Richard Hammond in hospital trying to remember what his wife looks like'

That's at the tame end of things said on that show, so I don't think Clarkson is pushing it, Daily Mail 'readers' up in arms about nothing again. I say readers, I think they look at the front page, see a dusky man with a beard and a house and decide muslims are to blame for house prices.

'Top Gear' like 'Mock the week', is aimed at a largely male, 16-35 demographic, who are not going to be offended by slightly edgy jokes. I'd put a sizable bet on the only people complaining being people who have 'heard' or 'read' about something that might have been said.

It reminds me of the showing of 'Jerry Springer - The Opera' or the Brass Eye paedo special, where you have MPs condemning the material, yet, when pushed know NOTHING of the content because they haven't watched it, they're just complaining because they were told it would make them look good.

As for the Brand/Ross thing, I think it pushed it a bit too far, and chose the wrong target. I get the feeling if they'd chosen say, Jeffrey Archer, no-one would have batted an eyelid, but Andrew Sachs was part of british comedy history and a well loved character.

However, a simple apology should have been enough, and I think Andrew Sachs is worse off, where it could have been a moment of stupidity, followed by them apologising, now everyone in the country knows the details.
 

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I think Charlie Brooker said it best about Clarkson, along with people like Jamie Oliver and Alan Titchmarsh, they're all hideous and annoying, and I don't actually LIKE any of them, yet here's the thing. They are all genuinely knowledgeable and interested about the topic they are there to talk about.

They're not a pretty figurehead put there to look nice between video clips, they're genuinely enthusiastic about the subject material and that makes them strangely very watchable.
 

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Also, I read recently that they were slipping morse code into the background music last week with the message 'Strictly Come Dancing is crap'

If they have to apologise for that, then it's all gone way too far.

Who's offended, a few ballroom dancing intelligence veterans from WWII?

(NOTE: not having a go at anyone who fought in WW2 btw, they're all heroes to me, just saying, surely they're about the only people who'd pick up on a morse code message hidden in a TV show.)

Really must quit with the 'taking up half a page per topic' thing, or at least let someone else get a word inbetween!