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battlespud said:
What's sneaking in a post, I dont think i can hide one -_-
And I really dont get whats not to believe, look up the various towns of north shore li (im not giving my town online for obvious reasons) and look up median salaries. The average cost to live is extremely high compared to other parts of the country, salaries follow
No, you're lying about your economic standing.

Even rich people know Gucci is not a 'normal' brand. The same goes for Armani.

Also, the blunt use of offense terms for the poor is a dead give away for a troll.

Go back to 4chan.
 

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I expected this to be about multiclass character builds in RPGs. I am disappoint.
 

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You said "regular brands like Gucci (just a watch or 2)" and you got rid of a car before you got your license because you didnt much like it? Erm, yes... you are definitely pretentious. And if your parents are really struggling as much as you are implying then maybe they should stop spoiling you.
 

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Im not trolling, its a 21 footer, nothing special lol. Do you want a picture of my watch or something as proof? (House, anything identifiable is out of the question.)
Yeah, see I live in a house that cost your family's yearly income. If you're not full of crap, we have very different ideas of what "getting by" is. I've never even seen an Armani suit in real life.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
battlespud said:
What's sneaking in a post, I dont think i can hide one -_-
And I really dont get whats not to believe, look up the various towns of north shore li (im not giving my town online for obvious reasons) and look up median salaries. The average cost to live is extremely high compared to other parts of the country, salaries follow
No, you're lying about your economic standing.

Even rich people know Gucci is not a 'normal' brand. The same goes for Armani.

Also, the blunt use of offense terms for the poor is a dead give away for a troll.

Go back to 4chan.
Did he use another term to describe the poor other than "Proletarian"? Because that one isnt offensive, they are the people who will rise up and overcome the oppression of class.
 

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Kinguendo said:
AccursedTheory said:
battlespud said:
What's sneaking in a post, I dont think i can hide one -_-
And I really dont get whats not to believe, look up the various towns of north shore li (im not giving my town online for obvious reasons) and look up median salaries. The average cost to live is extremely high compared to other parts of the country, salaries follow
No, you're lying about your economic standing.

Even rich people know Gucci is not a 'normal' brand. The same goes for Armani.

Also, the blunt use of offense terms for the poor is a dead give away for a troll.

Go back to 4chan.
Did he use another term to describe the poor other than "Proletarian"? Because that one isnt offensive, they are the people who will rise up and overcome the oppression of class.
Ah, learn something new every day (Still think he's trolling).

Why does he have a 20 dollar mouse, a 60 something printer, an HP 5 dollar keyboard, and what looks like Ikea furniture?
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
I expected this to be about multiclass character builds in RPGs. I am disappoint.
I thought the same thing, but this is looking to be pretty funny.
 

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That mouse is actually broken, i lost the usb reciever thing and its for my laptop. That printer works fine for school work and i love my $5 hp keyboard <3 . Also thats because it probably is, my parents dont see much point in buying furniture for a house we're selling when my dad retires in two years, and that room is a leftover office, all my nicer stuff is in a room downstairs.

We aren't super rich @AccursedTheory , thats what I basically said in the first post. We have the income but it doesn't mean we can use it for whatever we want. Sure get plenty of nice toys, but we cant just throw it away on things like furniture (especially because my mom's style is garbage.. country western x( )
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Kinguendo said:
AccursedTheory said:
battlespud said:
What's sneaking in a post, I dont think i can hide one -_-
And I really dont get whats not to believe, look up the various towns of north shore li (im not giving my town online for obvious reasons) and look up median salaries. The average cost to live is extremely high compared to other parts of the country, salaries follow
No, you're lying about your economic standing.

Even rich people know Gucci is not a 'normal' brand. The same goes for Armani.

Also, the blunt use of offense terms for the poor is a dead give away for a troll.

Go back to 4chan.
Did he use another term to describe the poor other than "Proletarian"? Because that one isnt offensive, they are the people who will rise up and overcome the oppression of class.
Ah, learn something new every day (Still think he's trolling).

Why does he have a 20 dollar mouse, a 60 something printer, an HP 5 dollar keyboard, and what looks like Ikea furniture?
The wood the keyboard is on is different to the wood the mouse is on... I normally keep my mouse close to my keyboard and always on the same surface.
 

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They were taken at dif times Kinguendo, and its the same desk, probably just dif lighting or something. Thats not regular mouse though, it was just laying around because i was probably using my laptop for something.

EDIT: On the gucci one i either have my desk lamp on, or used flash, idk which. But thats why the grain looks dif, its completely washed out thanks to the light. I can take a better pic tomorrow morning
 

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Kinguendo said:
The wood the keyboard is on is different to the wood the mouse is on... I normally keep my mouse close to my keyboard and always on the same surface.
Good eye.

battlespud said:
That mouse is actually broken, i lost the usb reciever thing and its for my laptop. That printer works fine for school work and i love my $5 hp keyboard <3 . Also thats because it probably is, my parents dont see much point in buying furniture for a house we're selling when my dad retires in two years, and that room is a leftover office, all my nicer stuff is in a room downstairs.

We aren't super rich @AccursedTheory , thats what I basically said in the first post. We have the income but it doesn't mean we can use it for whatever we want. Sure get plenty of nice toys, but we cant just throw it away on things like furniture (especially because my mom's style is garbage.. country western x( )
For the price of one Gucci watch, I can get an entire bed room set of decent quality (Real wood).

For your information, Gucci anything IS throwing away money.
 

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battlespud said:
That mouse is actually broken, i lost the usb reciever thing and its for my laptop. That printer works fine for school work and i love my $5 hp keyboard <3 . Also thats because it probably is, my parents dont see much point in buying furniture for a house we're selling when my dad retires in two years, and that room is a leftover office, all my nicer stuff is in a room downstairs.

We aren't super rich @AccursedTheory , thats what I basically said in the first post. We have the income but it doesn't mean we can use it for whatever we want. Sure get plenty of nice toys, but we cant just throw it away on things like furniture (especially because my mom's style is garbage.. country western x( )
You get fancy watches and disposable cars but when it comes to furniture... Oooh calm down, we cant afford to sit down!

Heres some advice... all watches tell the time, its what they do. Get a car you like and maybe wait until you get your license before you even think about touching it, oh and maybe if your parents werent buying you stupid watches and mock guns they might buy furniture.
 

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It might have been a waste of cash investment value wise, but its a family tradition to wear gucci watches. Everyone in my family has always had at least one or two gucci watches. I received it as a gift for my SAT scores.
 

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Angerwing said:
My parents combined have over 2 million in assets. We live in one of the best suburbs in the city, and they're planning on buying a $75,000 Audi A4, as well as the other vehicles they own.

I'm a poor uni student earning $16 an hour.

My parents are decidedly upper-middle class, but hey, guess what? Their achievements are not mine. I didn't earn any of it. I'm lower class, and proud of it.
I have a similar situation, which can be best described with a sketch:

 

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Paksenarrion said:
Angerwing said:
My parents combined have over 2 million in assets. We live in one of the best suburbs in the city, and they're planning on buying a $75,000 Audi A4, as well as the other vehicles they own.

I'm a poor uni student earning $16 an hour.

My parents are decidedly upper-middle class, but hey, guess what? Their achievements are not mine. I didn't earn any of it. I'm lower class, and proud of it.
I have a similar situation, which can be best described with a sketch:

You have rich-ish parents?

Wait... let me get my uniform on so I can romance you.
 

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Ugh i have furniture that does its job, no one goes upstairs, its offlimits during parties etc and I hardly ever use that desk, i prefer working downstairs. So im lying about everything because my desk is old outdated crap that there was never any reason to replace? that makes perfect sense -_-

Its not like we live like kings, furniture isnt somethingn thast important to my parents. My dad paintballs along with me (Hence the high end equipment) and is a car enthusiast. My mom is into fashion. Neither of them know anything about home design and since upstairs is only for sleeping and some video games whats the point in updating it when we're not keeping the house much longer?
 

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Despite my earlier comment this topic does have merit because everywhere there is too little understanding of what is rich and what is poor. (keep in mind these rough figures are just approximations as everywhere has a cost of living index)

The way I see it poor is equated to day to day survival. Food, water, Shelter, electricity. Ive seen first hand a family of four exist on roughly 10k per year. Thats what I would consider Surviving.

Doing Ok takes what is considered surviving and adds to it. Things like financial security of owning a home, (Ha, yeah right, not anymore) Luxury expenses such as phones, internet, etc. Ive seen first hand a family of four with everything you would see in a surviving household, plus a mortgage, multiple cars, Cable, internet. I would consider that Flourishing

Doing well takes all of the previous two and continues to add more to it. Things like the ability to invest, Discretionary spending, Multiple luxuries. I have first hand seen a family of four doing well at 30-50k per year. I would consider that thriving.

Beyond that you have more than satisfied your basic financial needs. Your able to survive and that is the most important part. Everything beyond survival is a bonus. You start to enter into the area when money is no longer crucial to defining your level of existence. To me that would be rich.

Then in the upper stratas you see people making Millions of dollars per year, from various forms of revenue such as vocation, investment, speculation, etc. This enters into a realm of wealthy.

Far too many people have this notion of 100k per year is not rich. If your struggling to get by living on 100k per year, then perhaps it might be time to re prioritize your life and trim some of the fat out of your life that has you struggling to survive at 100k because I know of nowhere as it relates to cost of living index(at least in the US) that you cant survive on 100k per year.
 

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I love kids who have rich parents. My £14k a year seems so awesome now.

I hate to say this but, OP, you're pretty well off. The best thing you can do is stay with your own kind because the majority of people will not get you, or even worse, not give a flying fuck about whatever predicament you find yourself in. In two years your family earns more than I will in my entire working life. They are easily earning 6 times a year more than anyone in the area I live.

You live in a completely different world to the majority my friend, a majority who you openly put down in your fist post as beneath you. I can't say what I really want to because I'm sure this fine site will ban me, but I will say this. You know why class divides exists, why the "lower classes" hate you lot so much? It's not because you have more than us, or better stuff, it's because you feel the need to brag about it and put the rest of us down. It's even worse when the individual in question happened to be born into money and has never had to work for it.

A poster above me mentioned how he/she comes from a well off family yet has a job themselves, earning far less. I respect that person because he's fending for himself. Perhaps you will to one day, but for now you are asking if it's ok to wear certain brands to school and posting pictures of your gucci watch. I can't believe I'm saying this but I have more respect for some people who are on benefits than I do for you right now.

Heh, I never realised I disliked the rich so much untill just now. See what happens when worlds collide? We can't relate at all and friction begins.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Paksenarrion said:
Angerwing said:
My parents combined have over 2 million in assets. We live in one of the best suburbs in the city, and they're planning on buying a $75,000 Audi A4, as well as the other vehicles they own.

I'm a poor uni student earning $16 an hour.

My parents are decidedly upper-middle class, but hey, guess what? Their achievements are not mine. I didn't earn any of it. I'm lower class, and proud of it.
I have a similar situation, which can be best described with a sketch:

You have rich-ish parents?

Wait... let me get my uniform on so I can romance you.
Weren't you watching the sketch? My father is a famous English playright, and I am an up-and-coming British coal miner.