Cliches that you hate with a passion.

[dvd_72]

the sword is the holy weapon, why not a bloodly axe, mace, frail, spear, greathammer, or something other then a sword, really why the sword get so much loving its annoying...

Might I propose the idea that the sword is the more elegant of those weapons?

Although a hammer being the holy weapon has been used quite a bit too. Still, a straight efficient edge, gleaming sharply, or perhaps a gracefull subtle curve has a deadly elegance you must admit. Also seems less like a brawlers weapon.

At least, that's how I've allways seen it.

Edit: sorry, forgot to actually contribute.

The hero, having no expirience in battle before, upon grasping a weapon is instantly so proficient they can slay hundreds of the villans thugs single-handedly. *facedesk*

 

[Matimus]

Might I propose the idea that the sword is the more elegant of those weapons?

Depends on the sword. Anything European before the late 16th century is pretty much an iron bar with a pointy tip for sticking in folk after you've finished pulverising them.

Although a hammer being the holy weapon has been used quite a bit too.

That's probably due to the fighting Bishop Princes they had in the Holy Roman Empire. Clerics were forbidden to spill blood in battle, which meant that anything stabby was Right Out. But apparently God doesn't mind his PR men liquifying heathen skulls with huge steel cruciform mallets.

 

[dvd_72]

Might I propose the idea that the sword is the more elegant of those weapons?

Depends on the sword. Anything European before the late 16th century is pretty much an iron bar with a pointy tip for sticking in folk after you've finished pulverising them.

Although a hammer being the holy weapon has been used quite a bit too.

That's probably due to the fighting Bishop Princes they had in the Holy Roman Empire. Clerics were forbidden to spill blood in battle, which meant that anything stabby was Right Out. But apparently God doesn't mind his PR men liquifying heathen skulls with huge steel cruciform mallets.

True on both accounts, but we are talking about crappy fantasy here right? Can't have the forces of good running around with pointy iron bars can we?

 

[Matimus]

True on both accounts, but we are talking about crappy fantasy here right? Can't have the forces of good running around with pointy iron bars can we?

I submit to you that any fantasy story ever written would be improved if you replaced every single sword in it with a frying pan.

 

[Jodski]

The cliché that evil never prevails eg: Empire being defeated by Ewoks and then the entire emipire falls to bits in seconds.

Evil* always prevails that?s the way the world works.

*Being Hitler evil, indifferent evil, greedy evil etc...

Not a cliché in the slightest but hate the word du jour. Yatzee bless his... whatever (soullessness?) has ruined the word for me.

 

[Mediteral]

Do steroetypes count? The flamboyantly gay person in most movies always pisses me off, it's...what's the word I'm looking for...degrading! As for cliches, it's how whenever they're shown, they're presented to seen as "different and we should be tolerant of them" It's not the tolerance I have a problem with, it's the "different" thing...

On a separate note, I hate it when movies shoehorn in conflicts or when everything get's resolved too easily. Like a lot Adam Sandler movies.

 

[Nazulu]

A lot of exmaples here make me cringe. The latest one I hate though is "the chosen one" and "prophecy's fortold blahdi blahdi blah", I'm really over those type of story's.

 

[dvd_72]

I submit to you that any fantasy story ever written would be improved if you replaced every single sword in it with a frying pan.

Certainly would be humerous. And hey, it might allow for a soldier-wanting-to-turn-chef subplot or something

 

[Matimus]

The cliché that evil never prevails eg: Empire being defeated by Ewoks and then the entire emipire falls to bits in seconds.

I main thing I liked about the Timothy Zahn Star Wars books set right after the original trilogy is that the New Republic is having to try and work out how to make the astro-trains run on time and make sure everybody's space-rubbish is being collected every other Thursday, and the Empire in effect becomes the Rebellion. It's no so much a victory as changing ends at half time.

Evil* always prevails that?s the way the world works.

*Being Hitler evil, indifferent evil, greedy evil etc...

I'd contest that, and not just because I've never seen the word "prevail" used in the context of commiting Super Double Dog Dare Suicide and then being set on fire by Russians.

 

[SpaceBat]

Congratulations, even though the evil you fought against is all-powerful and you had seen that its influence and corruption had spread throughout the entire world, you still managed to defeat it, save the world and prevented anything bad from happening anywhere in the world. Ever. All is well. Here, have some sunshine, rainbows and unicorns.

 

[Matimus]

Certainly would be humerous. And hey, it might allow for a soldier-wanting-to-turn-chef subplot or something

I just want to see The Battle of Helm's Deep being run on Tom & Jerry rules.

 

[Mediteral]

In horror movies and/or disaster movies, how stupid everybody other than the main characters always seem to be or only the main characters are good shot with guns and everyone else gets killed by the mildly-threatening-yet-easily-avoidable monster/accident/baddie. Plot armor ftw!

 

[Aprilgold]

Obligatory romantic subplot in goddamn everything.

Hell to the yeah.

That all gay guys in media have to be overly flamboyant wuss pots who talk in high pitch voices. Come the fuck on American game industry, its the year 2011 near 2012, and you can't figure out that not every gay guy is this example. Come on, get some people skills.

The Eastern world has actually got this correct, good god.

Do steroetypes count? The flamboyantly gay person in most movies always pisses me off, it's...what's the word I'm looking for...degrading! As for cliches, it's how whenever they're shown, they're presented to seen as "different and we should be tolerant of them" It's not the tolerance I have a problem with, it's the "different" thing...

On a separate note, I hate it when movies shoehorn in conflicts or when everything get's resolved too easily. Like a lot Adam Sandler movies.

Great, what am I going to do with whats up there, HUH, HUH!?

Also, the ever so popular "THIS BADDIE IS INVINCIBLE AND A BAD ASS AND A ASSHOLE! YOU NEED TO STOP HIM AT WHATEVER MEANS!" *throws X item at the boss* "OH YES, YOU KILLED HIM!"

 

[The Diabolical Biz]

Oh, here's one that hasn't been said - Henchmen being so vastly inefficient that our beloved protagonist (and friends) can comfortably mow through thousands of them without even an afterthought.

How is it that these absolutely incompetent buffoons are continuously hired despite their lack of proficiency in both ranged and close combat?! Is there no test that they have to pass? Why are there never ~equal casualties when the hero's band of companions meet a group of henchmen?

Just pisses me off.

 

[Robert Ewing]

Spend entire time building up a female character as a feminist don't need no man type, only to have her fall in love with a handsome white dude at the very end - Yeah... Fuck that.

well that does happen in real life, just look at Gloria Steinem and how she originally viewed marriage only later to get married herself. Here is a link to the subject:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95874&page=1

I'm not saying it doesn't happen in real life. But what i'm saying is that no strong woman ever remains strong, they always fall prey to the sexy white man.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

Spend entire time building up a female character as a feminist don't need no man type, only to have her fall in love with a handsome white dude at the very end - Yeah... Fuck that.

well that does happen in real life, just look at Gloria Steinem and how she originally viewed marriage only later to get married herself. Here is a link to the subject:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95874&page=1

I'm not saying it doesn't happen in real life. But what i'm saying is that no strong woman ever remains strong, they always fall prey to the sexy white man.

I hate to nitpick, but whats wrong with the men being white? If they were East-Asian, would that make a difference?

 

[Assassinscreed548]

The long speech by the villain before he finishes off his victim, giving the victim just enough time to get saved or to escape.

 

[Major_Tom]

Thanks. Also I would like to see a blind hero or heroine save the day for once.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096945/
There's also a scene where he drives a car.

OT: Villains with no motivation or agenda except for "they are evil" bullshit.

 

[Robert Ewing]

Spend entire time building up a female character as a feminist don't need no man type, only to have her fall in love with a handsome white dude at the very end - Yeah... Fuck that.

well that does happen in real life, just look at Gloria Steinem and how she originally viewed marriage only later to get married herself. Here is a link to the subject:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95874&page=1

I'm not saying it doesn't happen in real life. But what i'm saying is that no strong woman ever remains strong, they always fall prey to the sexy white man.

I hate to nitpick, but whats wrong with the men being white? If they were East-Asian, would that make a difference?

Name 5 instances that has happened in all of Hollywood's history?

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

Spend entire time building up a female character as a feminist don't need no man type, only to have her fall in love with a handsome white dude at the very end - Yeah... Fuck that.

well that does happen in real life, just look at Gloria Steinem and how she originally viewed marriage only later to get married herself. Here is a link to the subject:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95874&page=1

I'm not saying it doesn't happen in real life. But what i'm saying is that no strong woman ever remains strong, they always fall prey to the sexy white man.

I hate to nitpick, but whats wrong with the men being white? If they were East-Asian, would that make a difference?

Name 5 instances that has happened in all of Hollywood's history?

You didn't answer the question, does the race of the guy matter, or just the concept that a strong women "f[e]ll prey" to a handsome man annoy you?