Clone Troopers Rebelling?

[Hardsuit]

Nothing against anyone here and more against Mr. Lucas but when you sell rights to people to write books or do comics in a universe you created and then have your super crack team of continuity people go over it before it receives approval and is printed it's canon. You don't see Ridley Scott complaining about the Aliens IP and declaring certain movies not canon. Lucas is just trying to milk the cow for as much as he can. Funny how in 1994 L.A. says it's all canon and then a year after Ep. 1 was released in 2001 they change their minds. Hell the whole wiki page is a contradiction of L.A. going back and forth changing their minds whenever it suits them.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

There is a scene from the game Star Wars Battlefront 2, where you play as a clone trooper on The psycadellic mushroom planet that we see for all of 5 seconds in the film, when the troopers gun down a jedi twilek) And the trooper talks about how fierce and courageous the jedi was, how she saved all their lives multiple times because the planet was so trecherous, and he says having to kill her when order 66 came about was a tragic thing for them to do, because they respected her so much and owed her their lives, but they did it anyway, because they were orders. I remember him saying she thanked them all, after a particularly bad battle, and rallied them with a great pep talk, and after it none of the troopers could look her in the eye, because they knew that when the time came they would have to kill her.

The clones must have had a limitation on their free will when orders were given.

The exact quote you're looking for is, "She said we were the bravest soldiers she'd ever seen. It was a good thing we were all wearing helmets, because none of us could look her in the eye." Another good one comes at Knightfall. "Did any of us have second thoughts? Any private thoughts of betrayal? Perhaps. But we kept it to ourselves. We didn't say a word. Not a word."

The Clone Troopers turning so quickly has always bothered me. I've read that some did it because the Jedi used them and threw them away. Clearly no one has ever met these Jedi, because the ones I see always attempt to save as many Clones as they can. Another is that the Clones had pre-conditioning in them. I don't buy that either, because there's suddenly no jolt, no look of recognition in their eyes. I think it's just bad writing, and I hate the Clones because of it. At least Battlefront 2 addresses the fact that some felt horrible about it, but still did it. I think if there had just been a hint of remorse--like Cody going, "It will be done my lord." Hangs up, sighs and shakes his head, then gives the order, I would of accepted it better.
Off topic: The steps leading up to, and inside of, the Jedi Temple should be COVERED with Clone bodies. There are more dead Jedi than Clones, which is another thing that bothered me.

 

[WolfThomas]

Another thing is that I don't think the troopers knew it was a blanket order to kill all the jedi, just the particular ones they were serving with. It's easier to kill one person you like, rationalising that they're a traitor, then to be told to kill an entire group of them.

 

[FalloutJack]

When Emperor Palpatine issued Order 66, did any of the Clone Troopers question the Order and then rebel against thinking that it wasn't right, or did they all just accept the orders like a bunch of puppets?

Well, they're all clones, right? They all think the same. You test it on one guy, it works for them all. Yes, I know eventually that clones start having different lives and acting the same, but they're still all cut from the same flesh with the same training.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I'm pretty sure the majority did, but there was a lone few that didnt.

Not like it really mattered, as mace Windu said, the jedi cant be an army, there just arent enough. They're peace keepers. maybe, just MAYBE if they were all on one planet, that would have been easily defendable, and could protect themselves from things like the death star, the Jedi could have lived and survived. and then they could make their own clones.

Still, there's a lot of different books out there, and alot of *puts up shield* fan fiction, so I'm sure there are enough were the clones decided not to, and launched a subtle war against the Empire.

 

[Hardsuit]

The Clone Troopers turning so quickly has always bothered me. I've read that some did it because the Jedi used them and threw them away. Clearly no one has ever met these Jedi, because the ones I see always attempt to save as many Clones as they can. Another is that the Clones had pre-conditioning in them. I don't buy that either, because there's suddenly no jolt, no look of recognition in their eyes. I think it's just bad writing, and I hate the Clones because of it. At least Battlefront 2 addresses the fact that some felt horrible about it, but still did it. I think if there had just been a hint of remorse--like Cody going, "It will be done my lord." Hangs up, sighs and shakes his head, then gives the order, I would of accepted it better.
Off topic: The steps leading up to, and inside of, the Jedi Temple should be COVERED with Clone bodies. There are more dead Jedi than Clones, which is another thing that bothered me.

And yes there was a good amount of resentment towards Jedi with some clones. Think about it, you and your brothers keep going out into battle after battle on operations that don't really make sense at times,(Jedi weren't trained in military tactics) and the Jedi are the only ones coming back half the time. Plus there was the whole life after death thing for Jedi for those that knew about it.

That's why so many people loved Karen Traviss' books so much. Not only is she the mother of Madalorian culture she also explains a lot of clone culture and their armor. Their armor could be setup for private comm channels for squad and individuals so every time I watch the movies now I keep wondering what great conversations I'm missing out on. They actually learn to hold normal conversations on private channels without moving...

Think the Clone Wars series is trying to fill in the missing gaps concerning clones but is changing parts of established stories in the process. Madalorian culture gets fubar'd in season 2.

 

[SeriousSquirrel]

Well the clones aren't droids, they're humans. Geneticaly altered humans who have been programmed to work a certain way through intense training, but humans non-the-less. So while they think a certain way and are heavily dedicated to the republic (well, their commanders actually), they each percieve things in their own way and will act accordingly. So it's plausible that some clones could have rebelled (and did, if you count the EU as canon(which I do)).

The only problem is that based on their training an incredible majority saw the chancellor as right and followed his orders. Also, I thought that I had seen something about a group of clones who had been out signal when the order was given, and therefor missed out on the order?

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