CM Punk/ Chris Brown Twitter thing-What scares me

[Offworlder_v1legacy]

No doubt some of you have already seen this. This is not about the fight or any threats Punk made, or about either man in general.

If you scroll through the comments you will see people siding with Brown. Not just as fans but AGREEING with what he did. One person commented "It's ok to beat a girl if she is being a *****". Also I have read reports that some teenage girls are Tweeting and such along the lines of "I don't care what Chris Brown did he can beat me any time" and "I'd so take a punch from Chris Brown, he's so hot" ect ect. They are probably jokes but at the same time they could be truth.Think about that, if they're not joking these girls are basically inviting men to hit them, they are completely open to violence against them.

This really really scares me, I have a terrible feeling that this will open old wounds and people will see Brown as a victim and start mimicking what he did.

Do you think it's a possibility that this could open a flood gate to a wave of violence against women? Or am I just overreacting? Is this what the next generation will perceive? Will these morals be accepted into society? What are your thoughts?

 

[SycoMantis91]

Being 20 years of age and not very removed from my high school days, I can tell you that (at least from what I've seen), more and more women in this generation have become less and less self-respecting, and more and more willing to tolerate more and more abuse to be with the coolest/hottest guy they can be. I've seen it personally with too many friends. I think it's more a product of that ever-growing mindset than the fact that "Chris Breezy did it". Though it is kinda funny that he's lame, talentless and fugly. But whatever.

 

[sms_117b]

Will Wheaton had the same problem talking bad about Chris Brown, there are some serious issues with our culture (unless you think all is fair in equality, then, by all means slap a b***h if she hits you first) to think that hitting women is ok.

CM Puk IS an excellent entertainer/superstar/wrestler, Chris Brown is nothing. I really hope people start rallying behind Chris Browns opposition soon.

 

[daveman247]

Never heard of these guys. But i think you are overreacting. Those things were most probably jokes, and lets not forget the sexism/ racism that is magnified on the internet when people can hide behind screen names. Most things people say on here they would NEVER do in real life.

As for violence against women, not really. I think society may be starting to balance out a bit. Women fought for equality (Which is good) and sometimes use it to gain things, but revert back to "the old ways" when something bad happens because of it. The door swings both ways. Violence is bad, and should only be a last resort but these rules of "you should never hit a woman because she is a woman" is getting a bit silly. Of course one should never start the violence but if a woman begins beating YOU what is one supposed to do? Take it?

Just saying.

as for agreeing with what brown did is just silly. But on the other hand i do feel slightly sorry for him because people will not forget it. And this is one of the cons of being a "celebrity". He did something wrong, and admits it. Although he should have gotten a heavier penilty for it It happened several years ago now and people should just forget about it.

 

[Bomberman4000]

If a woman is beating you, then you have every right to defend yourself. But just by looking at Chris Brown and looking at Rihanna I think it's a safe assumption that he could defend himself without putting the girl in the hospital. Just saying.

OT: I think what's you're describing is a general trend among girls who put too much stoke in celebrities in the first place. It's really sad to see because girls (from what i can gather working at a high school) will spend so much time romanticizing celebrities to the point where they can't have a functional relationship with a normal guy. The self-image, self respect problems of girls are far more reaching than Chris Brown's situation. I heard a girl in the gym the other day say she was "jealous" of her friend she was with because the friend was about to throw up.


Sure Chris Brown has his supporters (people willing to forgive and forget which apparently includes Rihanna herself), and CM Punk has his (me included) but I don't think this will lead to a flood gate of domestic abuse. That's a bit of an overreaction I'd say. I think it will however lead to a bunch of moronic tweets and ridiculous trending topics on Twitter.

Why is it not ok for people to remember that he beat his girlfriend? I don't feel sorry for the guy one bit. If someone beat a friend of yours, sure they may go to jail or "pay the price" for it, but are you saying you'd be ok with that person or feel sorry for him in 3 years? Beating your girlfriend isn't a mistake, it's a layer of that person's character.

I never bought the guy's music anyway. But for some people, "beating his girlfriend" is something that's forgivable and for some it's not. I think for the people who think it's unforgivable, it's ok for them to hold onto it.

 

[Foxpack1]

I really want Punk to go fully SES with this and tear Brown a new one.

 

[neonsword13-ops]

Fox news actually had a great moment because of it which I couldn't believe:

Ok, that's great. Even if it IS Fox.

OT: I knew nothing on the matter, nor who these two people are.

But now, I can surely say that Punk is in the right.

 

[daveman247]

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If the beating had gone on for an amount of time/ happened a few times. Then sure, THEN you can label them as a "woman beater". But from what i understand this was one incident, one. He even turned himself into the police afterward. Is that enough to be labelled for the rest of your life and have it come up all the time in talk shows/ whatever.


Im not saying i agree with what he did, im just saying i understand how it must be frustrating people dragging it up whenever they can to drum up controversy. Even after explaining himself.

And this is magnified because he is a "celeb" because there is no escape from the public eye.

 

[daveman247]

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He did get off light, i said that.

He did overreact with the phone thing, fair enough. But the person DID follow him all the way to his car.

The talkshow host was deliberatly trying to start something, it is understandable that he lost his temper.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Is that enough to be labelled for the rest of your life and have it come up all the time in talk shows/ whatever.

I'd say that it is. He's free to point out that it was a while ago, and that he's not done it since, but crimes tend to stick with you.

Sure Chris Brown has his supporters (people willing to forgive and forget which apparently includes Rihanna herself), and CM Punk has his (me included) but I don't think this will lead to a flood gate of domestic abuse. That's a bit of an overreaction I'd say. I think it will however lead to a bunch of moronic tweets and ridiculous trending topics on Twitter.

Yes and no. It's more of a reflection of our culture than a cause, but then again, our culture is constantly being recreated by something/s. You can't really put your finger on a thing and say "this did it", but things like this are really not helping.

 

[daveman247]

Indeed

And therein lies the problem. EVERYBODY is using it as a crutch. They bring it up and its pretty much an instant win card :/ What else can he do but play the victim? He has tried a few times to explain himself but its not enough.

Its obvious this incident troubled him - its not a judge on his character, these incidents starting happening after the first (Rhianna) thing.

If people just left it alone instead of going out of their way to remind him all the time these incidents may not be so over the top or may stop happening as much :/

 

[Shockolate]

One of the more "preachy feminist" friend I have went on a rather large tirade about dozens of twitter comments of females who "said" they'd let Chris Brown beat them.

And as a wreslting fan, I am familiar with that video.

Sidenote: Does it count as irony if I'm listening to Be A Man from Mulan while reading this thread?

 

[Rooster893]

I recently started watching the WWE again and they're kind of pissing me off with all their pathetic attempts at gathering a more mainstream audience.

"Look, this event is trending number one worldwide, WWE is the most popular thing in the world, this has nothing to do with the fact that it's a live event."

"Make sure to follow us all on Twitter."

"Oh by the way, we fucking love twitter, follow us on Twitter."

"I'm Michael Cole, Twitter Twitter Twitter, I love the bad guys, Twitter motherfuckers."

"Did you know that WWE has a shitload of views compared to several unpopular programs."

"Did you know that North Korea is Best Korea?

.....yeah, I really have nothing to contribute here, I just agree with you completely.