CnC3 disc broke - free replacement possible?

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sivlin

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Copyright laws are fucking ridiculous if you cannot legally download a copy of a game that you already own. It isn't even like you would be using any of the cracks that came with it. You would just be activating it with a CD key that you already own.

IMO, if EA were to bring you to court for this - I think you would destroy them. They have no case as you didn't steal anything from them.

The absolute ONLY thing I could see them getting you with is if you managed to upload a single copy of the game during your download process because then you are distributing. HINT: Turn your upload very low.
 

mjc0961

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Does anyone else object to that really poor "well you already bought the game, so if you didn't take care of your disc just download a new copy" excuse? If you didn't take care of your game disc, that's your own fault. You should be made to purchase a new copy (if it's another disc, maybe you'll take care of it this time). Not taking care of your things doesn't entitle you to just go download another game if you broke your first one. That's just another piss-poor excuse to justify not paying for things you should be paying for as far as I'm concerned.

If EA wants to give you a free copy of the game on Origin, that's fine. But if they say no, the only morally right option as far as I'm concerned is to pay up for a new copy. You took poor care of your first copy, suffer the consequences and let the hit to your wallet be a reminder take care of your games in the future so it doesn't happen again.
 

mjc0961

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sivlin said:
Copyright laws are fucking ridiculous if you cannot legally download a copy of a game that you already own. It isn't even like you would be using any of the cracks that came with it. You would just be activating it with a CD key that you already own.
The copy of the game that you own is broken, because you took poor care of it. That's EA's fault why? Of course it shouldn't be legal to download a game you paid for: if you let your copy of the game become broken, that's your problem. You now own a broken copy instead of a working copy. You broke your shit, you pay up to replace it. That's how it works. What if it was a PS3 or 360 game? Would it be cool to pirate a copy then? I'm guessing people will say no. Why? Because they don't have CD keys? Because they're harder to pirate? More poor excuses if you ask me.

Bottom line is, if you break your stuff, you pay up to replace it. That's how it works for everything else in life, it should be no different for PC games just because they might come with a CD key and can be easily stolen. Take care of your games in the first place and you won't even have this problem.

(Sorry if this is a double post, the forum glitch ate my first one so I can't edit it right now.)
 

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mjc0961 said:
sivlin said:
Copyright laws are fucking ridiculous if you cannot legally download a copy of a game that you already own. It isn't even like you would be using any of the cracks that came with it. You would just be activating it with a CD key that you already own.
The copy of the game that you own is broken, because you took poor care of it. That's EA's fault why? Of course it shouldn't be legal to download a game you paid for: if you let your copy of the game become broken, that's your problem. You now own a broken copy instead of a working copy. You broke your shit, you pay up to replace it. That's how it works. What if it was a PS3 or 360 game? Would it be cool to pirate a copy then? I'm guessing people will say no. Why? Because they don't have CD keys? Because they're harder to pirate? More poor excuses if you ask me.

Bottom line is, if you break your stuff, you pay up to replace it. That's how it works for everything else in life, it should be no different for PC games just because they might come with a CD key and can be easily stolen. Take care of your games in the first place and you won't even have this problem.

(Sorry if this is a double post, the forum glitch ate my first one so I can't edit it right now.)
See, I disagree with this. Intellectual/digital content such as games should be treated differently than other merchandise and this is why:

Lets say there is a company selling chairs.

ChairCo produces 6 million chairs and then they stop. These 6 million chars arbitrarily cost lets say 20 dollars to produce so they are out 120 million dollars to produce these 6 million chairs.

Let us also assume that they are the MOST sought after chair in the entire world and all 6 million chairs sell. When that 6000001st person wants a chair - they can't get one. They have to wait until ChairCO produces another set of chairs.


On the alternate spectrum - a game company, gameCO (just to make things even) produces a game that cost them 120 million dollars to create (ridiculous number, but we'll accept it).

Now let us also assume that this game company is a trio of Blizzard/Valve/ and GOD and they come out with the most amazing game in the entire world. This game appeals to every person in the world and EVERYONE wants it.

6,000,000 people order this game and get this game. then 6,000,000 more. Then 3 billion. Then the Everyone else. THen, for arguments sake - an alien species decides they love the game too.. they make contact and order 900 billion copies (so they can distribute it).

In all of this the only cost to the developer is that initial 120,000,000 investment.


Digital Items are not the same as Real items.
 

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mjc0961 said:
Does anyone else object to that really poor "well you already bought the game, so if you didn't take care of your disc just download a new copy" excuse? If you didn't take care of your game disc, that's your own fault. You should be made to purchase a new copy (if it's another disc, maybe you'll take care of it this time). Not taking care of your things doesn't entitle you to just go download another game if you broke your first one. That's just another piss-poor excuse to justify not paying for things you should be paying for as far as I'm concerned.

If EA wants to give you a free copy of the game on Origin, that's fine. But if they say no, the only morally right option as far as I'm concerned is to pay up for a new copy. You took poor care of your first copy, suffer the consequences and let the hit to your wallet be a reminder take care of your games in the future so it doesn't happen again.
If publishers want to say that you don't really own your games and that the disc is unimportant because you are only buying a license, then yes, as long as you have the license number (product key) you should be able to get another copy of the disc or a download for free.