COD 4 perks

[Aristol]

Only time I ever have a problem with juggernaut is when Im sniping with m40 acog. Its frustrating as hell to have to shoot a guy in the chest twice. And then if they have last stand as well and it takes a 3rd shot to finish them off.

UAV jammer / dead silence is probably the most frustrating combo to go against for me. I cant complain about it too much though as its one of my favorite load outs.

 

[TxMxRonin]

The only perk I hate is Martyrdom. That's why I don't use it so I don't plan on getting the "Martyrdom Veteran" challenge completed anytime soon.

 

[Canebrake]

The perks are ok i guess,they provide an interesting twist to an already great game play so in a way they are quite excellent.

But when i look at them closer i see an extreme lack of creativity. Extra damage? Extra health? Magically fart a grenade when you get shot lethally? If that's creativity in this modern era of gaming I'll go back to wolfenstein 3D thank you very much.

Martyrdom always seems to get me because i usually do a straight rush CQC with a silenced SMG. and right after i kill em they drop a sucker right on top of me. Even more annoying is if i knife them,it's virtually impossible to get out of range without running away as fast as you can. And if you do then your vulnerable to the martyr's buddies.

Why should you and your team be rewarded for rushing up to someone and dying?
You shouldn't get free stuff like a hot grenade when you die. If you died shooting how the hell are you going to magically drop a half cooked grenade? Moreover how fair is it that it's already half cooked? marty should drop a grenade with the full 5 second timer,then i'd be fine with it. Not that i hate it,it just doesn't isn't quite right.

 

[McGee]

-snip-

McGee? As in the McGee clan? Would you happen to be a relation to Assy McGee?
*very strange picture*

No, lol sorry.

 

[Dante_Alucard]

I always try to use jugg whenever i can

 

[Zenn3k]

Solution to everyones problem with Martyrdom...when you kill someone, don't run to their corpse.

Its not that difficult.

 

[IsoNeko]

Perk 2's are a Rock Paper Scissors kind of thing.

Overkill beats Stopping Power, because they have more options to take down the average player.

Stopping power beats Juggernaut due to increased Damage done.

Juggernaut beats Overkill due to having more health and no damage modifiers.

Sleight of Hand and Double Tap even themselves out. What do you want more, a faster way of killing them to ensure their death? Or to make sure when your taking a breather your not caught off guard.

Sonic Boom drives out mass groupings of people if they are huddled up in one area, and UAV jammer lets you stay in the area and not give away your position so you can get the drop on them when they walk through an area without bombing it first.

 

[Tony Grande]

Overkill beats Stopping Power, because they have more options to take down the average player.

Uhm.... Logic!?

 

[Grype]

Hate it when people use tubes, they require little skill and on hardcore you hardly have to hit near someone to kill them. On the other hand, RPGs are practically impossible to aim with so I dont mind getting killed by those

 

[theCMNDER]

Only one I don't like is Martyrdom, especially if someone else killed the person who dropped the grenade! I most often get killed by a Martyrdom because someone else killed the guy, and then I run around the corner just in time for it to explode, giving me no time to react whatsoever (and I didn't hear the guy drop the Martyrdom over the guy killing him's gun fire).

I think dying when you don't expect it is what really annoys people, so Martyrdom, Last Stand and Juggernaught get shit for it.

 

[Drasur]

most of the people who complain are people with modded controllers and other third party products that make the game easier anyway. one of my friends has a modded controller and hes always saying "juggernaut noob" which I see as a little ironic seen as hes doing stuff thats agaist the TOS and needs to fire a round of handgun bullets into some poor ******* within a second, makes me wonder who the noob really is. Juggernaut was put in the game to be used by IW, so forget about people whining. But i personally like dead silence, stopping power and frag x3

 

[7moreDead_v1legacy]

Marty - Cheap way to get kills

Last Stand - It's buggy as hell in my eye's, and if they dropped where you can't shoot them and somebody else get's your kill, oh that's annoying!

Tube's - Cause people use them to carry their score and can be used with near pin point accuracy.

Clay's - Pretty much the cheesiest way to get kills. If you can't watch your own back then learn too! And amount of r-tards I see planting them right infront of each other ie < = Clay
<< is just too frequent.

Jugg I do not mind so much it's frustrating sometimes when your using a pistol or something, but if it bleeds, we can kill it. =)

 

[Xojins]

Everyone hates on Martyrdom. It's a useful perk, and you can spot it and get away in time if you pay attention. It's an attack that isn't easy to detect, just like a backstab, which is not at all cheap.

Last Stand is annoying though, just because they go down, but someone else can steal your kill. It also sucks when the person in Last Stand has a deagle.

Juggernaut is lame, because no matter what, if you get shot with a sniper rifle, you're going to go down. Not so with Juggernaut! Unless you get a headshot, obviously.

Using the combination of Juggernaut and Last Stand is very cheap. If you kill someone, it's solely due to the fact that you had more health and/or a second chance. No skill involved.

 

[MarkusAurelius77]

Never get bored of discussions like this. Martyrdom is fair in any game mode, except HC due to a very high likelyhood of TK. On HCHQ, just after the cap, getting wiped by your own teammate is very aggravating!


The Jugg with Last Stand is very annoying, as someone said. It can take a full clip to drop someone, but he can drop you with a single pistol shot! I'm sneaky, so I usually rock a silencer and UAV, with either Deep Impact or Extreme Cond, depending on game mode. Usually only play HCHQ, great for K/D ratio.

I'll use the tube... but only after someone on the other team starts spamming it, that way I'm giving them their own medicine. I have no issues with any Perks beyond that, you just need to adapt your tactics. Or die, whatever is easiest...

 

[Dante_Alucard]

Hey Noob tubs usage is like a fine art I can noob people better than some people can throw grenades

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Is there any such thing as a cheap perk? All i hear over the mic during a game is f****** Juggernaut. From what I gather people look down on this perk. So in your opinion is this a cheap perk? and are there any other perks that could be considered cheap ?

I Myself think that there is nothing wrong with the perk and use it frequently. I'm only level 14 though and just started playing the game so I haven't tried/gotten the other ones yet.

I think it's pretty ok for a level 14 player to use it but it does get a bit frustrating when you see Gold Star level 10 prestiges running around with juggernaut and martyrdom on.

That said, every weapon and perk in the game gets called cheap so pay no attention to people whining. I got called cheap for using the G36C once. Ha.

 

[Jennacide]

Martyrdom is annoying, but I can deal with it. Except when it's someone playing as "Demoman" and using grenade launcher attachment, sonic boom, and martyrdom. Then it's infuriating because the blast radius is so deadly. I've literally killed guys doing this on normal modes, waited for a possible martyrdom, and die to it anyway because of Sonic Boom. No grenade indicator, just death because of the increased range and damage.

RAGE.