COD: tl;dr

[Ophiuchus]

I think 'gun goes bang, man falls down, repeat a billion times' pretty much covers it. Oh, and there's a bit specifically designed to make anti-video game campaigners wet themselves.

You just described Mass Effect.
And every other game with a gun ever.
Jesus, if you're going to be a trolling douche, at least put some effort into it.

I like how any post these days depicting a less than breathlessly praising opinion is automatically trolling, douchery, or both. Actually, it wasn't intended as either, I'd probably have to rank CoD4 as my favourite of all the modern shooters (assuming we don't count Fallout 3, which I consider an RPG). It's just that I found the storyline was of no consequence because it all comes down to 'shoot whoever shoots at you' when the action starts, rendering any sort of summary more in-depth than "some guys shot some other guys" mostly redundant.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

You is big american hero, you killz all evil non americans, go go go!

And that is pretty much the modern shooter rubber stamp.

What?

The main protagonists in the Call of Duty series are both English.

Since when?
Soap is Scottish and im pretty sure all the other player characters are American

Actually you only play as an American in the missions that are clearly headed by the Americans. Its like saying that CoD 2 is bad because you play as Russians in the Russian Campaign. Also, there's Captain Price and Kamarov, two main good characters that aren't American.

Im only talking about the Modern Warfare games (i thought that was implied seeing as thats what the thread is about), and i clearly stated im only talking about the player characters... When playing as the SAS you play as "Soap" who is Scottish. When you're playing for Task Force 141 you play as Soap again or "Roach" who i dont know where he's from. And then you can play for various American Units where.. you are of course American.

The person i quoted said that the main protagonists are "both english" which doesnt make sense because there are more than two protagonists, and arguably none of the player characters are English (although Roach possibly is)

You is big american hero, you killz all evil non americans, go go go!

And that is pretty much the modern shooter rubber stamp.

What?

The main protagonists in the Call of Duty series are both English.

Since when?
Soap is Scottish and im pretty sure all the other player characters are American

Price Is English, Soap is either northern English or scottish, so is Ghost(Gaz), and all the SAS. and tbh, I find them quite interesting characters

Im only talking about the Modern Warfare games (i thought that was implied seeing as thats what the thread is about), and i clearly stated im only talking about the player characters... When playing as the SAS you play as "Soap" who is Scottish. When you're playing for Task Force 141 you play as Soap again or "Roach" who i dont know where he's from. And then you can play for various American Units where.. you are of course American.

The person i quoted said that the main protagonists are "both english" which doesnt make sense because there are more than two protagonists, and arguably none of the player characters are English (although Roach possibly is)

You is big american hero, you killz all evil non americans, go go go!

And that is pretty much the modern shooter rubber stamp.

What?

The main protagonists in the Call of Duty series are both English.

Since when?
Soap is Scottish and im pretty sure all the other player characters are American

CoD 1 had Americans, English, and Russians
So did CoD 2
CoD 3 added Canadians
MW 1 and 2 have 2 British SAS members as the main protagonists. Playable Americans as well.
WaW had an American and Russian protagonist.

The only Call of Duty where you only played as an American was Black Ops, and even it had a bit where you played as a Russian.

Im only talking about the Modern Warfare games (i thought that was implied seeing as thats what the thread is about), and i clearly stated im only talking about the player characters... When playing as the SAS you play as "Soap" who is Scottish. When you're playing for Task Force 141 you play as Soap again or "Roach" who i dont know where he's from. And then you can play for various American Units where.. you are of course American.

The person i quoted said that the main protagonists are "both english" which doesnt make sense because there are more than two protagonists, and arguably none of the player characters are English (although Roach possibly is)

 

[ElPatron]

Russia invaded the world... then they did it again.

afaik they only did it once in MW2.

 

[Radeonx]

I think 'gun goes bang, man falls down, repeat a billion times' pretty much covers it. Oh, and there's a bit specifically designed to make anti-video game campaigners wet themselves.

You just described Mass Effect.
And every other game with a gun ever.
Jesus, if you're going to be a trolling douche, at least put some effort into it.

I like how any post these days depicting a less than breathlessly praising opinion is automatically trolling, douchery, or both. Actually, it wasn't intended as either, I'd probably have to rank CoD4 as my favourite of all the modern shooters (assuming we don't count Fallout 3, which I consider an RPG). It's just that I found the storyline was of no consequence because it all comes down to 'shoot whoever shoots at you' when the action starts, rendering any sort of summary more in-depth than "some guys shot some other guys" mostly redundant.

I never said anything less than praise was trolling, but blatantly ignoring the question the OP ask in order to get a snarky insult of the game in IS trolling.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

Im only talking about the Modern Warfare games (i thought that was implied seeing as thats what the thread is about), and i clearly stated im only talking about the player characters... When playing as the SAS you play as "Soap" who is Scottish. When you're playing for Task Force 141 you play as Soap again or "Roach" who i dont know where he's from. And then you can play for various American Units where.. you are of course American.

The person i quoted said that the main protagonists are "both english" which doesnt make sense because there are more than two protagonists, and arguably none of the player characters are English (although Roach possibly is)

Well, generally the player characters are voiceless and dont really have a proper personality. Whereas no non playable character that is American you really remember. The non-American ones you do remember, like Soap, Price and Ghost/Gaz.

 

[Ophiuchus]

I never said anything less than praise was trolling, but blatantly ignoring the question the OP ask in order to get a snarky insult of the game in IS trolling.

Okay, well I apologise if it seemed that way. That wasn't the intention - I was aiming for humour. Like I said, I thoroughly enjoyed the Modern Warfare games, which is quite an achievement considering I'm not much of a shooter fan.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

Im only talking about the Modern Warfare games (i thought that was implied seeing as thats what the thread is about), and i clearly stated im only talking about the player characters... When playing as the SAS you play as "Soap" who is Scottish. When you're playing for Task Force 141 you play as Soap again or "Roach" who i dont know where he's from. And then you can play for various American Units where.. you are of course American.

The person i quoted said that the main protagonists are "both english" which doesnt make sense because there are more than two protagonists, and arguably none of the player characters are English (although Roach possibly is)

Well, generally the player characters are voiceless and dont really have a proper personality. Whereas no non playable character that is American you really remember. The non-American ones you do remember, like Soap, Price and Ghost/Gaz.

I agree with you... So i dont really see what point you're making in regards to what i've said.
Like i've explained, the person i originally quoted said that there are two main protagonists, both of whom are English, which is incorrect. The main protagonists are the player characters. Most of which are American. Soap and Roach being the exceptions. Yes the most memorable support characters are all English.. but thats irrelevant to what i was saying.

 

[wolf92]

Russians invade...twice. And now we're getting tired of it.

 

[Macemaster]

Im only talking about the Modern Warfare games (i thought that was implied seeing as thats what the thread is about), and i clearly stated im only talking about the player characters... When playing as the SAS you play as "Soap" who is Scottish. When you're playing for Task Force 141 you play as Soap again or "Roach" who i dont know where he's from. And then you can play for various American Units where.. you are of course American.

The person i quoted said that the main protagonists are "both english" which doesnt make sense because there are more than two protagonists, and arguably none of the player characters are English (although Roach possibly is)

Well, generally the player characters are voiceless and dont really have a proper personality. Whereas no non playable character that is American you really remember. The non-American ones you do remember, like Soap, Price and Ghost/Gaz.

I agree with you... So i dont really see what point you're making in regards to what i've said.
Like i've explained, the person i originally quoted said that there are two main protagonists, both of whom are English, which is incorrect. The main protagonists are the player characters. Most of which are American. Soap and Roach being the exceptions. Yes the most memorable support characters are all English.. but thats irrelevant to what i was saying.

Erm, not really to be honest, in CoD4, main protaganist is Soap, as He's the only one that survives, in MW2 Soap again is the main protoganist, along with Roach, who with a name like that, was most probably SAS so therefore British, The American Soldier in MW2 was much more of a Side character, as it did nothing really to fuel the story laid out in CoD4, apart from "this is the real world consequences of the war". In the End, the whole MW story, is about Soap and Price, whether it's in their perspective or not, the other chapters, so to speak, are there to support, contrast, and Project the actions caused by these 2 people


oh Yeah and Ilikemilkshake, you A) don't need to Repeat yourself 3 times in the same post, it makes you look kinda like a condescending arse. secondly, alot of people use English as a synonym for Britain, and as it's never truly laid out in the game, one can only speculate

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

Im only talking about the Modern Warfare games (i thought that was implied seeing as thats what the thread is about), and i clearly stated im only talking about the player characters... When playing as the SAS you play as "Soap" who is Scottish. When you're playing for Task Force 141 you play as Soap again or "Roach" who i dont know where he's from. And then you can play for various American Units where.. you are of course American.

The person i quoted said that the main protagonists are "both english" which doesnt make sense because there are more than two protagonists, and arguably none of the player characters are English (although Roach possibly is)

Well, generally the player characters are voiceless and dont really have a proper personality. Whereas no non playable character that is American you really remember. The non-American ones you do remember, like Soap, Price and Ghost/Gaz.

I agree with you... So i dont really see what point you're making in regards to what i've said.
Like i've explained, the person i originally quoted said that there are two main protagonists, both of whom are English, which is incorrect. The main protagonists are the player characters. Most of which are American. Soap and Roach being the exceptions. Yes the most memorable support characters are all English.. but thats irrelevant to what i was saying.

Erm, not really to be honest, in CoD4, main protaganist is Soap, as He's the only one that survives, in MW2 Soap again is the main protoganist, along with Roach, who with a name like that, was most probably SAS so therefore British, The American Soldier in MW2 was much more of a Side character, as it did nothing really to fuel the story laid out in CoD4, apart from "this is the real world consequences of the war". In the End, the whole MW story, is about Soap and Price, whether it's in their perspective or not, the other chapters, so to speak, are there to support, contrast, and Project the actions caused by these 2 people


oh Yeah and Ilikemilkshake, you A) don't need to Repeat yourself 3 times in the same post, it makes you look kinda like a condescending arse. secondly, alot of people use English as a synonym for Britain, and as it's never truly laid out in the game, one can only speculate

Yes alot of people use English as a synonym for British, and they're wrong to do so.
As for the rest of your post i really dont understand what your point is. My original statement was that the two main protagonists are not "both English" and i have yet to be corrected.

Oh and Macemaster, you do realise that A) talking like this makes YOU seem like a condescending arse. Secondly, well really you should have said B) and C) the point about repeating myself, as far as im aware, when you quote multiple people my actual message wont come up in their inbox unless i put it under the quote.. i wasnt trying to be condescending i was trying to avoid people having a blank quote appear in their inbox.

 

[Macemaster]

Yes alot of people use English as a synonym for British, and they're wrong to do so.
As for the rest of your post i really dont understand what your point is. My original statement was that the two main protagonists are not "both English" and i have yet to be corrected.

Oh and Macemaster, you do realise that A) talking like this makes YOU seem like a condescending arse. Secondly, well really you should have said B) and C) the point about repeating myself, as far as im aware, when you quote multiple people my actual message wont come up in their inbox unless i put it under the quote.. i wasnt trying to be condescending i was trying to avoid people having a blank quote appear in their inbox.

My point, is that the story follows Soap and Price, so that does make the main protagonists British.

If people where really bothered about the Discussion, they'd come back to the topic, and as this is fairly early, most people wouldn't need to use the inbox too extensively, and thirdly, by reply to A) in the manner that you did, you proved me right, well done *claps*.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

Yes alot of people use English as a synonym for British, and they're wrong to do so.
As for the rest of your post i really dont understand what your point is. My original statement was that the two main protagonists are not "both English" and i have yet to be corrected.

Oh and Macemaster, you do realise that A) talking like this makes YOU seem like a condescending arse. Secondly, well really you should have said B) and C) the point about repeating myself, as far as im aware, when you quote multiple people my actual message wont come up in their inbox unless i put it under the quote.. i wasnt trying to be condescending i was trying to avoid people having a blank quote appear in their inbox.

My point, is that the story follows Soap and Price, so that does make the main protagonists British.

If people where really bothered about the Discussion, they'd come back to the topic, and as this is fairly early, most people wouldn't need to use the inbox too extensively, and thirdly, by reply to A) in the manner that you did, you proved me right, well done *claps*.

I never said the protagonists werent British, i said they werent English, and ive been quoted 6 times now in this thread because i pointed that out.

And if you dont use your inbox thats fine, you can keep refreshing the thread to keep checking for replies, i have better stuff to do, as might other people, which as ive explained is why i "repeated" myself in that post.
There was nothing suggesting a condescending tone in the post. However you then responded to me in a condescending manner by saying talking down at me by doing a Columbo and going oh and one last thing ilikemilkshake, and then you called me an arse, so i responded using sarcasm.
And i realise we're going back in circles here but YOU saying well done *claps* only really cements you as the one being condescending.

 

[Macemaster]

I never said the protagonists werent British, i said they werent English, and ive been quoted 6 times now in this thread because i pointed that out.

And if you dont use your inbox thats fine, you can keep refreshing the thread to keep checking for replies, i have better stuff to do, as might other people, which as ive explained is why i "repeated" myself in that post.
There was nothing suggesting a condescending tone in the post. However you then responded to me in a condescending manner by saying talking down at me by doing a Columbo and going oh and one last thing ilikemilkshake, and then you called me an arse, so i responded using sarcasm.
And i realise we're going back in circles here but YOU saying well done *claps* only really cements you as the one being condescending.

well, Yes, I am being condescending to you, I was taught to treat others as I would wish to be treated, and Yes, I do talk like that, I always have, I'm sorry that the way I type and converse with the human race is not quite the same as yours. and yes, there was, repeating yourself 3 times gave the impression that your point wasn't getting across, due to a lack of intelligence, I've been on the forums a while, and I haven't seen someone repeat the selves 3 times in the same post, apart from to act condescending to others.

As already stated, alot of people use English synonymously, Wrong yes, but still, people understand what they're saying. Ain't is not a word, but people would understand me anyways.


However, you said none of the player characters are English, Captain Price is English, and you play him. admittedly only 2 levels, but you still play him.

"The person i quoted said that the main protagonists are "both english" which doesnt make sense because there are more than two protagonists, and arguably none of the player characters are English"

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

I never said the protagonists werent British, i said they werent English, and ive been quoted 6 times now in this thread because i pointed that out.

And if you dont use your inbox thats fine, you can keep refreshing the thread to keep checking for replies, i have better stuff to do, as might other people, which as ive explained is why i "repeated" myself in that post.
There was nothing suggesting a condescending tone in the post. However you then responded to me in a condescending manner by saying talking down at me by doing a Columbo and going oh and one last thing ilikemilkshake, and then you called me an arse, so i responded using sarcasm.
And i realise we're going back in circles here but YOU saying well done *claps* only really cements you as the one being condescending.

well, Yes, I am being condescending to you, I was taught to treat others as I would wish to be treated, and Yes, I do talk like that, I always have, I'm sorry that the way I type and converse with the human race is not quite the same as yours. and yes, there was, repeating yourself 3 times gave the impression that your point wasn't getting across, due to a lack of intelligence, I've been on the forums a while, and I haven't seen someone repeat the selves 3 times in the same post, apart from to act condescending to others.

As already stated, alot of people use English synonymously, Wrong yes, but still, people understand what they're saying. Ain't is not a word, but people would understand me anyways.


However, you said none of the player characters are English, Captain Price is English, and you play him. admittedly only 2 levels, but you still play him.

"The person i quoted said that the main protagonists are "both english" which doesnt make sense because there are more than two protagonists, and arguably none of the player characters are English"

I thought it would have been obvious that me saying the same under each quote would have implied i was saying the same thing 3 times, once to each person rather than 3 times to all 3 of you. Anyway i think we've covered that so we can leave that there.

And yes okay you've got me there, i stand corrected, you play as Price. But i'd still argue he isnt a proper player character.
You said that everyone else apart from Soap and Price arent the protagonists, you just happen to play as them sometimes and that the story was mainly focused on Soap and Price.
Well i agree with you but i'd say that Soap is the main protagonist/player character. And you just happen to play as Price in a flashback, the same as how you play as the other people sometimes.
Price is still one of the people at the forefront of the game but he isnt the main character.

Anyway even if you disagree with me on that, i can still clutch at straws by going back to my original post, that "both the main characters arent English"... because that is true. Soap is not English.

 

[Ariseishirou]

You is big american hero, you killz all evil non americans, go go go!

And that is pretty much the modern shooter rubber stamp.

I see you've never actually played the games.

In modern warfare you play as three characters (Soap, Price, and Jackson) only one of which is an American. The other two are British. And the American dies about midway through.

Since when?
Soap is Scottish and im pretty sure all the other player characters are American

Since when? Since Soap, Price, and Jackson were the playable characters from Modern Warfare, two of whom are British and the other one dies off. You play Soap again in MW2, as well as Gary Sanderson, who is presumed to be British as well. You also play Ramirez. So, three Brits and two Americans, whom you use for considerably less time than their main British counterparts.

If you honestly stand behind your "Soap is scottish and all the other player characters are American" statement, you know jack shit about the games.

 

[Macemaster]

I thought it would have been obvious that me saying the same under each quote would have implied i was saying the same thing 3 times, once to each person rather than 3 times to all 3 of you. Anyway i think we've covered that so we can leave that there.

And yes okay you've got me there, i stand corrected, you play as Price. But i'd still argue he isnt a proper player character.
You said that everyone else apart from Soap and Price arent the protagonists, you just happen to play as them sometimes and that the story was mainly focused on Soap and Price.
Well i agree with you but i'd say that Soap is the main protagonist/player character. And you just happen to play as Price in a flashback, the same as how you play as the other people sometimes.
Price is still one of the people at the forefront of the game but he isnt the main character.

Anyway even if you disagree with me on that, i can still clutch at straws by going back to my original post, that "both the main characters arent English"... because that is true. Soap is not English.

Clutching at straws my friend

In the most technical Sense, Yes, you're right, he's not English, but I do take umbridge with Price not a "Proper Playable Character". I mean come on, Prices' level was awesome, one of the best ones in the series, and that Face fuzz! ah... we can Dream

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

I thought it would have been obvious that me saying the same under each quote would have implied i was saying the same thing 3 times, once to each person rather than 3 times to all 3 of you. Anyway i think we've covered that so we can leave that there.

And yes okay you've got me there, i stand corrected, you play as Price. But i'd still argue he isnt a proper player character.
You said that everyone else apart from Soap and Price arent the protagonists, you just happen to play as them sometimes and that the story was mainly focused on Soap and Price.
Well i agree with you but i'd say that Soap is the main protagonist/player character. And you just happen to play as Price in a flashback, the same as how you play as the other people sometimes.
Price is still one of the people at the forefront of the game but he isnt the main character.

Anyway even if you disagree with me on that, i can still clutch at straws by going back to my original post, that "both the main characters arent English"... because that is true. Soap is not English.

Clutching at straws my friend

In the most technical Sense, Yes, you're right, he's not English, but I do take umbridge with Price not a "Proper Playable Character". I mean come on, Prices' level was awesome, one of the best ones in the series, and that Face fuzz! ah... we can Dream

I think his 2 levels were the best in the series, as well as generally being a totally awesome character. But apart from having more characterisation/beard he's still on the same level as the Americans you play as relative to Soaps story.

You is big american hero, you killz all evil non americans, go go go!

And that is pretty much the modern shooter rubber stamp.

I see you've never actually played the games.

In modern warfare you play as three characters (Soap, Price, and Jackson) only one of which is an American. The other two are British. And the American dies about midway through.

Since when?
Soap is Scottish and im pretty sure all the other player characters are American

Since when? Since Soap, Price, and Jackson were the playable characters from Modern Warfare, two of whom are British and the other one dies off. You play Soap again in MW2, as well as Gary Sanderson, who is presumed to be British as well. You also play Ramirez. So, three Brits and two Americans, whom you use for considerably less time than their main British counterparts.

If you honestly stand behind your "Soap is scottish and all the other player characters are American" statement, you know jack shit about the games.

Price doesnt really count, you play as him for 2 levels in a flashback.
And you never learn Roaches nationality. Given that Task Force 141 has members from many nationalities its a bit presumtious to assume he's British.
So 1 Scot, 1 unknown, 2 Americans and 1 English which if you really want to count given the tiny playtime you should really count the American CIA guy aswell.. so you can make that 3 Americans.

So yeah i stand by what i said.

 

[Ariseishirou]

Price doesnt really count, you play as him for 2 levels in a flashback.
And you never learn Roaches nationality. Given that Task Force 141 has members from many nationalities its a bit presumtious to assume he's British.
So 1 Scot, 1 unknown, 2 Americans and 1 English which if you really want to count given the tiny playtime you should really count the American CIA guy aswell.. so you can make that 3 Americans.

So yeah i stand by what i said.

Really? You'll stand by "all the other player characters are American" when you've just pointed out that there's 1 English and 1 unknown as well as the non-American series protagonist?

That's... special of you.

 

[Something Amyss]

Isn't COD: TL;DR the next game to come out in the series?

 

[Macemaster]

Don't underestimate the Price-fuzz and Advise for OP, Get the other 2 games, they're great fun anyway, and you'll get filled in completely