COD: Why all the hate?

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Sectan

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I have fun with CoD games. It's just that people get annoyed with paying 60 USD every year for what basically amounts to a free TF2 update. IE new weapons and new maps.
 

Crazedc00k

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Most likely because it refuses to innovate; hence it becomes stagnant.

Don't worry, that's its job. The guy in charge can't change for fear of alienating too many of his supporters. One day, Call of Duty will run through its popularity, and we'll have to complain about a different series. One thing I don't get. Why do people complain about there being a surge of samey first person shooters? I hear complaints about that all the time, but outside of the yearly giants from EA and Activisn., the only major "grey gritty grimey" type shooters I can think of are homefront and breach.
 

Vault101

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*sigh* ok I dont hate COD, its fine for what it is, probably good, just not my thing..so it gets a great big "meh" from me

the only thing that bothers me is its pretty much a re-skin ever new game..the same thing over and over though somwhat tweaked

and then you get "reactionary" stuff like this thread (why do you hate it it? its not abd game...well duh you dont need a thread to say that), and people saying "you hate it because its popular!!!" and it just turns into one great big clusterfuck
 

Vault101

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Crazedc00k said:
Most likely because it refuses to innovate; hence it becomes stagnant.

Don't worry, that's its job. The guy in charge can't change for fear of alienating too many of his supporters. One day, Call of Duty will run through its popularity, and we'll have to complain about a different series. One thing I don't get. Why do people complain about there being a surge of samey first person shooters? I hear complaints about that all the time, but outside of the yearly giants from EA and Activisn., the only major "grey gritty grimey" type shooters I can think of are homefront and breach.
I know right? I think this trend is getting a ltitle less...though some people would have you belive its som epidemic

Ive been gaming for at least a year....Ive only played 2 generic brown FPS and NONE this year
 

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Another brilliant reason behind why CoD has so much hate towards it is that an extremely high percentage of fan boys for it a complete idiots. Its quite easy to see with their lack of intelligent arguements. It always comes down to the same few statement's on their part, the simple "CoD is better" and just repeating that or the same thing and also stating its better than another game. Or if their extra smart for a CoD fan boy they bring up that their is millions of other people out their just as dumb as them.

Personally I prefer Battlefield or Halo as an FPS, due to the much more varied gameplay. Its generally far more interesting than CoD gameplay. I mean look at Rooster Teeth's fails of the week for Halo, you don't get anything as humorous as that in CoD.
 

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ninetails593 said:
It's since Call of Duty is so popular. People on the internet like to make themselves feel special by saying they hate it. I don't blame them, it's in their nature to be horrible.
More popular -> more people have played it -> more people will complain about it.

And let's just not get started on your "they all complain about the same five things so obviously they're just saying shit for the sake of it" logic, or else I'll be putting a hammer through my own skull.
 

luke10123

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Clearly there's a lot of folk posting who arn't fans, but it has to be asked of these people:

"Why all the hate?"

HATE?

Is it just me who thinks this is a REALLY stong word to associate with a video game you don't particularly enjoy? Can't people just remain indifferent, if you don't want to, don't buy MW3, there's no need to run around the internet bashing the people who do. does no one else see down and out hatred as being a problem? and we wonder why most people think all gamers are immature juveniles...

Personally, I like both games for what they are, but BF3 requires more of a time investment than I can give, so for now I'm going to enjoy the more arcade-y style of CoD until I can really settle down and enjoy Battlefield 3. (assuming i forgive every battlefield title since BF2, none of them have really 'done it' for me)
 

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Woodsey said:
More popular -> more people have played it -> more people will complain about it.

And let's just not get started on your "they all complain about the same five things so obviously they're just saying shit for the sake of it" logic, or else I'll be putting a hammer through my own skull.
Did I say that? My point was that the complaints had gotten generic, or did you bother to read the context? I never asked for this aggression.
Nazulu said:
How about your opinion is just your opinion, like I said before. I'm quite aware I'm not going to convince you but this is all just fun for me.

Now, speed runs are different. They are done by highly talented freaks, while I'm saying the average gamer can defeat the game in 5 hours. With more money you can accomplish anything (well, it allows for more). As they say "money makes the world go round". And I mean bigger as more missions and options and whatever springs into our imagination. The games are small and that's why they will continue to receive complaints till the end of time. You telling me it's good for business and that you don't care will not make it go anywhere. Even though a lot of the fanbase isn't looking for anything special (like you), a lot find it just stagnation and fight it so they can't just get away with whatever. That's what a lot of these big businesses want, to get as much money as possible while giving as little to the customer. If it wasn't for anyone complaining you'd probably be getting less for a higher price a while a go.
The length is around 4-8 hours. The game isn't a free roam! You can't just add in missions! Each mission is important to the plot and timeline. The games are large, prove me wrong. The fanbase is looking for a lot special. Like for instance, I'm looking forward to the new features, the strike packages, game modes, story lines, gun levels, point streaks... There's quite a bit to be excited about. The customer doesn't deserve anything. The customer can either buy their product, or not. The opinion of a random person is NOT the responsibility of the developers. The people complaining aren't a factor. The people that actually played the game and brought up points about its faults are a factor. You know what those people are called? Experienced. As in: Not people that decided CoD sucks and left it at that.
 

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Hey, it's that thread again... No idea why I keep coming back...

OT: For me, I hate it for what it represents. A dead end. It's just releasing the same gameplay, same weapons, same everything with such bare updates that you could fit in a patch, then have the guts to charge full price for the game and then even more for the 11 million map packs they sell and now they charge for bloody stats tracking? Something that's been free for every other online shooter?

That and plus it commits the cardinal sin of gaming, it's boring, least to me.

The business strategy is fucked, the community is fucked. there really isn't anything for me to like about it and it's damaging gaming as a whole for it racking up such a ridiculous income with it's extorting business strategy and yearly releases, other game developers and publishers might seek to adopt that strategy of business and copy it's gameplay.

So I'll summarize MY view on the game, it's boring, the community sucks, the story is incoherent and ironically simple, the multiplayer is broken, the graphics are very dated and Activision don't give a crap about the consumer or the game, they just want their money. Obviously, this is just my opinion but at least this bit of wall-o-text will explain some of the reasons there is a general dislike of call of duty.

[sub]Can we not have this thread pop up tomorrow? Please...[/sub]
 

Woodsey

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ninetails593 said:
Woodsey said:
More popular -> more people have played it -> more people will complain about it.

And let's just not get started on your "they all complain about the same five things so obviously they're just saying shit for the sake of it" logic, or else I'll be putting a hammer through my own skull.
Did I say that? My point was that the complaints had gotten generic, or did you bother to read the context? I never asked for this aggression.
"People on the internet like to make themselves feel special by saying they hate it. I don't blame them, it's in their nature to be horrible."

"Also, it's hard not to generalize when every argument against Call of Duty is: "Graphics same, too much money, too frequent, too similar". When the complaints start getting unique, I'll stop generalizing fanboys."

So yes, you did say that. The complaints haven't gotten generic, those are the complaints. Saying the complaints are generic also implies you think people are simply parroting each other and that the complaints hold no merit. So, again, yes you did say that.

(And a reply is not "aggression" - you said that to the last guy who quoted you who wasn't aggressive in the slightest.)
 

Nazulu

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ninetails593 said:
The length is around 4-8 hours. The game isn't a free roam! You can't just add in missions! Each mission is important to the plot and timeline. The games are large, prove me wrong. The fanbase is looking for a lot special. Like for instance, I'm looking forward to the new features, the strike packages, game modes, story lines, gun levels, point streaks... There's quite a bit to be excited about. The customer doesn't deserve anything. The customer can either buy their product, or not. The opinion of a random person is NOT the responsibility of the developers. The people complaining aren't a factor. The people that actually played the game and brought up points about its faults are a factor. You know what those people are called? Experienced. As in: Not people that decided CoD sucks and left it at that.
The plot isn't so complex to add in extra missions, I've played them so I know. The game is roughly 4-8 hours you say, that's pretty small (especially 4 hours, jeez). The features you just mentioned can also be expanded on.

Now for the second half of your paragraph. It has nothing to do with what people deserve. I'm complaining and comparing how much you get for the price and that I'm disappointed in how safe they're playing it. Telling me I can buy it or not has nothing to do with anything either. If I believe they aren't being fair then I'm gonna share my opinion no matter how many people dislike it. As for experiencing it, you think I can't quickly look through it all over the net? This place has everything, I'm aware of it all.

My opinion is not gonna do much by itself like I said, but when in large groups, not only will they hear it all but they will eventually have to defend themselves to keep a good image or make changes (and they do). Since they are trying to defend themselves, it has become a factor to them.
 

Jandau

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I can only speak for myself, not for everyone else. I dislike the CoD games. Not because they're popular, but because I don't like them. I found both Modern Warfare games (and Black Ops) to be boring in the single player. In MW2 I nearly fell asleep during the Russian invasion of US. The mission was so pointless and the objectives so arbitrary that I was starting to wonder what the hell I was doing there. Add to this that I don't really care for the modern military setting, that I dislike the multiplayer environment of online shooters and that I'm a bit fed up with FPS games (I don't hate them, I've just been playing them for a while now and they are all the same) and you get the end result of me not giving two shits about CoD. You're welcome to like it, I just think they're overrated pieces of poop with high production values.
 

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For me, as hipsterish as it sounds, it's because it's so popular. Now hear me out, and technically it isn't even COD's fault: People will always play COD, no matter their skill level, so there's always someone better, or someone worse than you, and you can always count on knowing people who own it. But on a game like Street Fighter IV or Marvel Vs Capcom 3, they aren't as popular to the mainstream audience so the only people who still play them are the people who played from the start and therefore are either master fighters or master douchebags (hitting you once then staying as far away from your opponent as possible is pretty common). So now, when I try to play online games that aren't COD, I constantly get my ass kicked, if I can get a game at all.
I guess then that it's not really entirely down to COD, since it could happen to any game that's popular enough, but because COD has such a simple, stupid formula that never innovates (after 4 of course) it's just sort of compounded.
 

natster43

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Well, people here hate it because it isn't Valve. That and the main campaign is extremely convoluted(for MW2 at least), the multiplayer is systematic and hectic, as well as it being extremely goofy if you think about it. People running full sprint with snipers and 2 two-handed shotguns, people jumping off roofs, not taking damage and teleporting with knives in paintball set styled battlefields all while being able to get nukes. Personally I like the Campaign, and kinda loathe the multiplayer, but I find it fun every few months.