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Danglybits

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They don't all have to super models to be 2D retreads of old stereotypes, but most of them are. Of course, so are more egregious than others, that Lady Iron Thong from Warrior Within for example. PA summed her up nicely http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20041203h.jpg
And Lara Croft, how can we forget our favorite big titted Brit?

They said that after the movie she'd have more realistic proportions. Yes and no, they reached the realm of physical possibility but are still not realistic, and then they added a nice boudoir tone to her voice and her speech. And midriff. Butt-shorts have never been good gear for raiding anything. Someone mentioned Alyx and yes, she is great, but how many other characters are out there like her?(willing to learn and really wants to know)
 

Danglybits

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I see your call of bullshit and men aren't objectified in the same way nor to the same degree. They are idealized sure, but do they take off their shirts for fanservice? No. Do they show me how impressive their junk is? No they don't.

But Gears of War is pretty outrageous for male exaggeration. The sad thing is that overly exaggerated men can be defended because you're right they are all action types which is a problem to begin with but it makes sense that Kratos is all ripply and shit, he's a warrior. Other guys are soldiers so some degree of fitness makes sense. But there is no reason for a woman to be wearing a haltertop and but shorts or to have hair down to her back. Men are idealized in games, perhaps even worse than women but they still aren't being looked at solely through the lens of sex.
 

Erana

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Semper_Fidelis53 said:
I'm writing an essay for my english class in college and I was wondering if you guys would answer a couple questions for me.

1. Do you believe that the better than life apperances of videogame characters hold you to higher expectations in order to impress the favored gamer gender?

2. Do you find how women are portrayed as large breasted bimbos in most games deemening to women? Likewise about men being portrayed as overly muscled emotionless pricks?

3. Do you believe that the images in video games are worse than those in advertising and television?
1. Though there are many female characters tailored to the social ideal of beauty, I do not feel pressured by them. In the games I am interested in, such as the software designed by the game company, Valve, I would find that the women most fawned over are equals to the male characters. Characters, such as Alyx Vance and Miranda Keyes, are portrayed in practical outfits, contributing greatly to their team, and often dirty, if they were in a situation inhibiting the comforts of modern life. In terms of beauty, their beauty is only the natural beauty of the character, as evident as one would find in a female co-worker: not an attribute flaunted by the character's behaviors and appearance, but showing through their daily attire and informal behavior.

2. The reply to this question depends on the genre. In some types of games, particularly games that follow the Japanese form of cartoons and comic books, the sexualised appearance and behavior of the female characters is a staple of a larger form of media. Without the exaggeration of certain features, both behavioral and physical, even a game produced in Japan would not be given the prefix, "J," short for, "Japanese." Other countries can, and often do, produce games that reflect this signature Japanese media, most often other Asian countries.
As for those games without the influence of the anime image and pantimime, the portrayal of women is often the victim of capitalism. Blockbuster games are extremely expensive to produce, at times even eclipsing major movie budgets. The dominant sex of the gaming demographic is male, making it especially crutial to include sexually arousing women as an additional selling point. As a woman, I am bothered by the portrayal of women in many games, because in order for a sense of true emmersion with a female character to occur, I would often have to accept an image of women whose physical attributes are beautified beyond what even the most drastic of photoshop artists could create for a magazine cover.

3. When comparing the portrayal of women in the general media to video games, I would have to say that gaming is more empowering to women. Sure, both Brittany Spears and Samus Aran are blonde, big-breasted and beautiful, Spears is selling sexual arousal for money while Aran is destroying menaces to the galaxy, defeating monsterous space pirates, and proving herself superior to her more sinister male bounty-hunter counterparts. In many games, the female characters are given sexual visuals to make them more desirable to the male audience, but many do not behave sexual at all. Women often serve as a more lithe, but competent counterpart to the male character.
Though there are countless exceptions, my impression of the general media is that it says to women, be beautiful and fulfill the sexual desires of men to the media, while video games say, be beautiful and intelligent, witty, and competent.

(I don't play many games with the females being a token pair of breasts, so I really can't say much. Of course, what does that say about the behavior of a female gamer?)
 

Danglybits

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The other cool thing about Samus is that she has a suit of armor that in no way highlights how attractive she is or gives any clues to her gender at all. And I too shy away from games with talking breasts. Well spoken.
 

The Wooster

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Danglybits said:
The other cool thing about Samus is that she has a suit of armor that in no way highlights how attractive she is or gives any clues to her gender at all. And I too shy away from games with talking breasts. Well spoken.
Samus is the worst character ever. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.70116#681255]
 

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Semper_Fidelis53 said:
I'm writing an essay for my english class in college and I was wondering if you guys would answer a couple questions for me.

1. Do you believe that the better than life apperances of videogame characters hold you to higher expectations in order to impress the favored gamer gender?

2. Do you find how women are portrayed as large breasted bimbos in most games deemening to women? Likewise about men being portrayed as overly muscled emotionless pricks?

3. Do you believe that the images in video games are worse than those in advertising and television?
No, no and no.
 
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1. Nope
2. I dislike such games. I play games involving girls like Alyx Vance, Nariko and Faith.
3. Sometimes yes, Sometimes no. Games has the potential to use random sequences, portals, invisibillity and darkness as game mechanics (Doom 3), while movies, being more realistic can make us feel much worst (Saw).
 

The Wooster

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MagnetoHydroDynamics said:
1. Nope
2. I dislike such games. I play games involving girls like Alyx Vance, Nariko and Faith.
3. Sometimes yes, Sometimes no. Games has the potential to use random sequences, portals, invisibillity and darkness as game mechanics (Doom 3), while movies, being more realistic can make us feel much worst (Saw).
Nariko is the one who dresses like a stripper right?
 

Jeigan

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1. No (You really should reword this)

2. Of course, but it sells, does it not? So long as there are games that exist other than these types, I'll be happy.

3. They certainly can be, taking control of a character rather than simply watching has an interesting effects on the overall experience. But the notion that FPSes are teaching kids how to shoot a gun that is probably too heavy for them to even hold is ludicrous.
 

Cheesebob

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1)No. If that was true then Plastic surgeons would be amazingly rich when ever Zero suit Samas or Soul Caliber's Ivy appears on television, also if videogame character's make you feel that way, you need to re-think on how you veiw your body or the opposite ex.

2)Blatantly not. But I suppose some women are actually like that in real life, same with some men but I think its just appealing to the male gamers. E.g Soul Caliber's Ivy, if she existed in real life...she would have to have a trolley to carry each breast.

3)CGI usually exagerrates how awesome a game is...although with increases in graphical power, the line is getting very thin
 

Erana

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
MagnetoHydroDynamics said:
1. Nope
2. I dislike such games. I play games involving girls like Alyx Vance, Nariko and Faith.
3. Sometimes yes, Sometimes no. Games has the potential to use random sequences, portals, invisibillity and darkness as game mechanics (Doom 3), while movies, being more realistic can make us feel much worst (Saw).
Nariko is the one who dresses like a stripper right?
Decoy, why are there so few male femenists gamers? More importantly, why is it that I know people will laugh at me calling you one?
 

The Wooster

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Erana said:
Decoy Doctorpus said:
MagnetoHydroDynamics said:
1. Nope
2. I dislike such games. I play games involving girls like Alyx Vance, Nariko and Faith.
3. Sometimes yes, Sometimes no. Games has the potential to use random sequences, portals, invisibillity and darkness as game mechanics (Doom 3), while movies, being more realistic can make us feel much worst (Saw).
Nariko is the one who dresses like a stripper right?
Decoy, why are there so few male femenists gamers? More importantly, why is it that I know people will laugh at me calling you one?
I'd say 90% of (edit: Longterm. I don't want to use the word 'hardcore') gamers, particularly on this forum, are just as annoyed by the dodgy stereotypes and shitty 50's era gender roles, I just whine about it more.