College Student Kills Intruder With a Sword

[ThePeaceFrog]

Im sorry, but however hard you may argue otherwise, the taking of another mans life cannot be justified, the English system works perfectly well. The sad fact of the matter is that if people were too sure of their right to defend themself in their own home than opportunistic acts of 'self-defence' would sky-rocket. Also at the same time, as hard as it maybe for some of you to realize, even those who break the law have rights and if we forget this than we are just as guilty.

 

[wewontdie11]

You break into somebody's house and tray to take what's there's you get no sympathy from me if you get killed or injured.

 

[FallenJellyDoughnut]

(to the criminal) You should've used a knife, its faster than a gun! - Cookies for whoever gets reference.

 

[Amnestic]

Im sorry, but however hard you may argue otherwise, the taking of another mans life cannot be justified, the English system works perfectly well. The sad fact of the matter is that if people were too sure of their right to defend themself in their own home than opportunistic acts of 'self-defence' would sky-rocket. Also at the same time, as hard as it maybe for some of you to realize, even those who break the law have rights and if we forget this than we are just as guilty.

First of all, I have little-to-no sympathy for a burglar who has already been charged on 29 other occasions for the same crime and was looking to make this kid's his round 30.

Second, when the adrenaline starts pumping and things start getting crazy, your logic centre shuts down and your Survival Instincts take over. If you think someone's threatening your life you're damn sure not going to be thinking "Well, I should hurt him just enough so he stops doing what he's doing." This is mostly true for people who haven't had any sort of training for life threatening situations (like, oh I dunno, a Chem Major at college?) You can say "Oh, he didn't need to kill him." but I highly doubt he was thinking straight even hours after the incident occured.

 

[piez13]

Good on him, I say. It saddens me to think that in Canada the student would probably be charged.

 

[Jedoro]

Yeah, this kid wins teh interwebz

 

[ThePeaceFrog]

Im sorry, but however hard you may argue otherwise, the taking of another mans life cannot be justified, the English system works perfectly well. The sad fact of the matter is that if people were too sure of their right to defend themself in their own home than opportunistic acts of 'self-defence' would sky-rocket. Also at the same time, as hard as it maybe for some of you to realize, even those who break the law have rights and if we forget this than we are just as guilty.

First of all, I have little-to-no sympathy for a burglar who has already been charged on 29 other occasions for the same crime and was looking to make this kid's his round 30.

Second, when the adrenaline starts pumping and things start getting crazy, your logic centre shuts down and your Survival Instincts take over. If you think someone's threatening your life you're damn sure not going to be thinking "Well, I should hurt him just enough so he stops doing what he's doing." This is mostly true for people who haven't had any sort of training for life threatening situations (like, oh I dunno, a Chem Major at college?) You can say "Oh, he didn't need to kill him." but I highly doubt he was thinking straight even hours after the incident occured.

I fully understand the problems and feel the student was justified in his actions, However, what Im attacking is not the case in point, but more the reactions that it is eliciting, those commenting on how they would be happy to do the same and how he 'deserved' to be killed disgust me.

 

[griever0311]

I remember a cop once explaining that the best weapon to defend yourself with in most homes is a longsword. Handguns over penetrate, and during an adrenaline rush it's very easy to miss with a handgun. Shotguns have the over penetration problem as well, and aren't very effective in closed quarters if you're not very proficient. Knife fighting is a very VERY dangerous thing to do. But a sword gives you plenty of reach, and the risk of the other guy carrying one to pull on you is very slim.

Umm... That's not really how it works... Unless you're trained, a longsword's not gonna do you much good; you're gonna end up smackin' someone with the flat edge.

Knife fighting IS a dangerous thing to do if you have no idea what you're doing, and no training to execute effectively. Knives ARE an effective force multiplier if you have nothing else close to hand, and I would prefer a knife to a straight hand-to-hand engagement.

Handguns, especially those loaded with frangible or Hydra-shok rounds don't present nearly as much of a threat of overpenetration that you might be facing with jacketed rounds. And "easy to miss during an adrenaline rush?" Dude, when you're in the zone and capping away at someone, everything else in the world just melts away until there's nothing but cold, perfect clarity. It's you, your target, and one of you going down.

Shotguns? Shotguns are probably the premiere CQB weapon. I always preferred shotguns for breaching; you know why? Contrary to your post (I'll assume some innaccuracy since I doubt you've ever actually fired anything at anyone) it's not hard to merc someone with a shotgun. Once you're guns up, all you do is point and click. If you flag someone and pull the trigger, they're catching SOMETHING. And I have no idea where you got the idea of "overpenetration" on a shotgun, unless you've got a bunch of slugs loaded up. About the only problem you're gonna have is some of the pellets missing the target, which shouldn't be happening at extreme close range if you know what you're doing. Or if you catch them in the face, but the skull usually stops a lot of THAT.

That cop sounds like a dumbass. You might want to find someone else if you're looking for home defense advice.

 

[griever0311]

Did he decapitate the intruder, or just stab/slice? Any limbs removed, because that'd be straight up bad ass xD
OT: Good job. Not only did he do the world a favor, he defended himself. Sadly, America's fucked up justice system will find a loophole and have him in jail for life. God, I hate my country's justice system with a passion

The kid sliced off the dude's left hand as he tried to block the blade, which caught on his NECK. No decapitation, but the dude didn't die immediately. Apparently he crawled a little, and bled out. LULZ.

 

[heyheysg]

Im sorry, but however hard you may argue otherwise, the taking of another mans life cannot be justified, the English system works perfectly well. The sad fact of the matter is that if people were too sure of their right to defend themself in their own home than opportunistic acts of 'self-defence' would sky-rocket. Also at the same time, as hard as it maybe for some of you to realize, even those who break the law have rights and if we forget this than we are just as guilty.

First of all, I have little-to-no sympathy for a burglar who has already been charged on 29 other occasions for the same crime and was looking to make this kid's his round 30.

Second, when the adrenaline starts pumping and things start getting crazy, your logic centre shuts down and your Survival Instincts take over. If you think someone's threatening your life you're damn sure not going to be thinking "Well, I should hurt him just enough so he stops doing what he's doing." This is mostly true for people who haven't had any sort of training for life threatening situations (like, oh I dunno, a Chem Major at college?) You can say "Oh, he didn't need to kill him." but I highly doubt he was thinking straight even hours after the incident occured.

Read Malcom Gladwell's "Blink", Cops shot an innocent man 41 times not because they made the wrong call (he looked suspicious and fit the profile) but because of the way the initiated the encounter.

Instead of wearing police uniforms and having one guy slowly walking towards the suspect while your partner covers you. They had 4 plain clothes drive up to a black man (who didn't speak english very well) get out and start walking towards him. What would you have done?

The solution, which police are doing nowadays is to NEVER chase the suspect until you have backup (chasing raises adrenalin and lowers high level thinking). Similarly, the kid could have called the cops and monitored situation from a window, taking a weapon to face a small time crook (what if he was really an armed murderer?) is really not the best solution.

 

[Amnestic]

Im sorry, but however hard you may argue otherwise, the taking of another mans life cannot be justified, the English system works perfectly well. The sad fact of the matter is that if people were too sure of their right to defend themself in their own home than opportunistic acts of 'self-defence' would sky-rocket. Also at the same time, as hard as it maybe for some of you to realize, even those who break the law have rights and if we forget this than we are just as guilty.

First of all, I have little-to-no sympathy for a burglar who has already been charged on 29 other occasions for the same crime and was looking to make this kid's his round 30.

Second, when the adrenaline starts pumping and things start getting crazy, your logic centre shuts down and your Survival Instincts take over. If you think someone's threatening your life you're damn sure not going to be thinking "Well, I should hurt him just enough so he stops doing what he's doing." This is mostly true for people who haven't had any sort of training for life threatening situations (like, oh I dunno, a Chem Major at college?) You can say "Oh, he didn't need to kill him." but I highly doubt he was thinking straight even hours after the incident occured.

Read Malcom Gladwell's "Blink", Cops shot an innocent man 41 times not because they made the wrong call (he looked suspicious and fit the profile) but because of the way the initiated the encounter.

Instead of wearing police uniforms and having one guy slowly walking towards the suspect while your partner covers you. They had 4 plain clothes drive up to a black man (who didn't speak english very well) get out and start walking towards him. What would you have done?

The solution, which police are doing nowadays is to NEVER chase the suspect until you have backup (chasing raises adrenalin and lowers high level thinking). Similarly, the kid could have called the cops and monitored situation from a window, taking a weapon to face a small time crook (what if he was really an armed murderer?) is really not the best solution.

Ah, but if you see an intruder your adrenaline's already running. Gotta remember this is just a guy at College. It's all well and good us saying "The logical solution to this problem would be to X and then Y, rather than than Z." But if you put yourself in a similar situation you might find you doing exactly the same thing.

I'm not saying what the guy did was 'right', nor am I saying it was 'wrong'. Just that I understand why he did what he did and I can't fault his processes because I know that despite how logical I can be at the best of times, I probably wouldn't have done it any different.

Well, I would've probably used one of those metal bats or a gun, but that's besides the point really. Not the "best solution" I'll agree with, but certainly the one most people would jump to when faced with a burglar in their home.

 

[MentalBakura]

In my opinion, if you attack an innocent stranger, your life is forfeit.

 

[Sevre]

Although I would like to defend myself, Irish law states that if I harm anyone on my property, intruder,hazard or not, I will be imprisoned even in self defence.

 

[Jamash]

Im sorry, but however hard you may argue otherwise, the taking of another mans life cannot be justified, the English system works perfectly well. The sad fact of the matter is that if people were too sure of their right to defend themself in their own home than opportunistic acts of 'self-defence' would sky-rocket. Also at the same time, as hard as it maybe for some of you to realize, even those who break the law have rights and if we forget this than we are just as guilty.

But...but there were only 4 young men against a unarmed 50 year old man, and he could have possibly been the one who stole their Playstation!

If they hadn't executed him, he might have got away with trespassing and stealing their property.

It's easy to judge from the other side of the Atlantic, but I've watched American films, and I've seen one unarmed guy easily take out 4 assailants. If one of the four wasn't armed with the sword, who knows what could have happened... that old dude probably would have killed all four of them even with his hand chopped off (it never stopped Luke Skywalker of Ash from the Evil Dead), so they had no choice but to finish him off.

 

[commit97]

Incidentally the sword laws in the UK are brilliant; we cant buy cheap, blunt, display katanas - like my highlander sword replica - anymore, they've been made illegal to sell (luckily not to own) but the nice shiny high carbon steel, 'practical' katanas? Well they're for martial artists and collectors, so of course they can't be banned! I'm very glad for the fact, I have one on my wall at uni... I like to think I would've done the same thing as the guy in this article.

Nice to speak to another brit! As a martial artist, it's nice to know that only people who know how to use these sharp, dangerous weapons, can buy them so simply. A friend of a collague of mine was stabbed 12 times in the chest, result in a severed liver and heart muscle damage, by a drunken man with a relavitely blunt kitchen knife! Imagine if he habd a fully sharpened sword. On the topic at hand, Congrats to the student, he defend himslef from an ovbiously very stupid person. (Who rushs a guy with a Katana!?)

 

[rokkolpo]

Two words, ninja training, that is all.

two words are also 2 words.

four words that is all.