Ok as a "colored" guy, thats a crock of shit. Black guys cheat waaaaaaaaay more than any other race. There are some good ones out there, but the majority of them have this ego/god complex thing going on.
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bahaha this.Kermi said:
OP just tell her to watch every episode of jerry springer/maury povich/steve wilkos show.
regardless of blatant racism aside, where in the hell did she ever come up with such an absurd view?
that picture got me detention back in the day, my friend showed it to me in the middle of class and i died laughing (because he looks like one of the guys in the picture, exactly the same) and the teacher found it absolutely disgusting to laugh at it.Jonluw said:Okay, as the people in the thread have demonstrated, black people are just as likely to cheat as people of any other skin colour.
Fact.
However, I don't think you can convince your sister with logic. Prejudice/racism rarely works that way. What might work, on the other hand, is appealing to a different common racial misconception that she probably already believes in that completely opposes her idea that only "coloured" people make good spouses.[sub]Yeah I know it's bad, but it's in an appropriate context, so please don't hammer me for this, mods.[/sub]
"better"? geez thats harsh...I like to think of it more as (depending on the situation) it could be boredom if a relationship is stagnat...or going with ones impulse shoudl the opertunity present itselfThe Valet said:
you may be right (or could you mean better from "their" perspective, not just better as an objective fact) but yeah...mabye monogmy just doesnt work for some people
Apart from being wrong and racist comment, is this her naive opinion based on religious views? Islamic religion is very popular in Arab or African countries. But this also wouldn't stop cheating, its all down to the persons morals or feelings. Yes they have different views and beliefs on family issues but doesn't mean they all are. Arab men are known to be tough on woman and their place in the kitchen and less tolerant on womans rights based on culture and religion. African men, depending on where they are from, can still kill, rape and cheat as well as any other person as well as a high chance they have aids....Africa is a cess pit of HIV. These comments i wrote are generalizations based on fact.....not something i would used to judge a person just because they happen to be born there.
Yes some men cheat. Some may just be nice to you to sleep with you. Or maybe they just saw your relationship as a casual thing and you took it more seriously. Either way i think its the type of men you chose to date as the reason you seem to keep picking "cheaters". If you date an arsehole.....dont be surprised if he acts like one.
Yes some men cheat. Some may just be nice to you to sleep with you. Or maybe they just saw your relationship as a casual thing and you took it more seriously. Either way i think its the type of men you chose to date as the reason you seem to keep picking "cheaters". If you date an arsehole.....dont be surprised if he acts like one.
It should be obvious that any form of generalisation through ethnic or racial grouping is always, inevitably wrong
Studies and statistics mean nothing to the individual...
And besides, here in Britain, the stereotype goes that black youths in hoodies are delinquents... but that goes for whites and Asians... It's not exclusively black males, nor is it female...
I don't think it's a matter of race that determines if they are going to be a delinquent, because black, white, asian, male, females have the capacity to act as stupidly as each other.
I suggest you watch Either Kidulthood, Adulthood, Shank or Sket. You can just watch the trailers, it gives a hard hitting reality check on the crime conducted by young people in London. And if you are observant, you will realize that while there are black cast members, there also a lot of white members.
I certainly don't think that it's anything to do with race, I think it's to do with genes, and the way that they where brought up that defines people. Which is unfortunate for the black community in Britain, because a high number of them are brought up in poverty, or dangerous societies. I know this sort of deviates from the point, but it gives the message I want to bring across... It's nothing to do with race...
And besides, here in Britain, the stereotype goes that black youths in hoodies are delinquents... but that goes for whites and Asians... It's not exclusively black males, nor is it female...
I don't think it's a matter of race that determines if they are going to be a delinquent, because black, white, asian, male, females have the capacity to act as stupidly as each other.
I suggest you watch Either Kidulthood, Adulthood, Shank or Sket. You can just watch the trailers, it gives a hard hitting reality check on the crime conducted by young people in London. And if you are observant, you will realize that while there are black cast members, there also a lot of white members.
I certainly don't think that it's anything to do with race, I think it's to do with genes, and the way that they where brought up that defines people. Which is unfortunate for the black community in Britain, because a high number of them are brought up in poverty, or dangerous societies. I know this sort of deviates from the point, but it gives the message I want to bring across... It's nothing to do with race...
Here you go:
Tiger Woods.
Bam. Shut down in 2 words.
Not only did he abuse his position as a husband, he abused his position as a father, a sportsperson and a public figure.
Tiger Woods.
Bam. Shut down in 2 words.
Not only did he abuse his position as a husband, he abused his position as a father, a sportsperson and a public figure.
Just to clarify a little, I care about her and want the best for her but personally I do think she's a fool for her little policy. I'm not even 100% sure if that is her "true" reason for it but it's the one I've gotten out of her.
Now, I'd like to hopefully talk some sense into her if at all possible. I know she trusts what I say but this is primarily because she knows that I don't say anything on a whim, I always check my facts and if at all possible back up what I say with evidence of some kind.
Mind you; this is a woman who married a guy from Algeria so that he could get into the country, had two daughters with him who spent a decade there most of that time with her daughters and learning Arabic while their father lived in England, came back to England, divorced him, went through a dozen different (muslims? Islamic? unsure of the proper term here) and black guys in the space of a month that she brought back to my living room (which is when I first asked about her dating habits), went back to the first guy and now sees him again on and off. OhgodIdon'tevenknow.
But in short I need something I can say or show to her to back my words up, I've yet to give her a response on the matter because I didn't actually know for sure if it was true or not without hard evidence to back it up. If I don't have the facts, I won't speak.
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That's what I have to reply to from the first page at least, felt I should post this much before I consider making it any longer.
Now, I'd like to hopefully talk some sense into her if at all possible. I know she trusts what I say but this is primarily because she knows that I don't say anything on a whim, I always check my facts and if at all possible back up what I say with evidence of some kind.
Mind you; this is a woman who married a guy from Algeria so that he could get into the country, had two daughters with him who spent a decade there most of that time with her daughters and learning Arabic while their father lived in England, came back to England, divorced him, went through a dozen different (muslims? Islamic? unsure of the proper term here) and black guys in the space of a month that she brought back to my living room (which is when I first asked about her dating habits), went back to the first guy and now sees him again on and off. OhgodIdon'tevenknow.
But in short I need something I can say or show to her to back my words up, I've yet to give her a response on the matter because I didn't actually know for sure if it was true or not without hard evidence to back it up. If I don't have the facts, I won't speak.
I wish I knew, it may be she had some sort of a bad relationship experience when she was younger but I've never pried too deeply into that.Lyri said:
That's really more my mother's specialty than mine, but is there any good particular clip or episode of it you could recommend on youtube?Kermi said:
HIV rates is a good point, I'll have to point that out to her when I do talk to her about this. Of course I'll need to check a few facts first but yeah.Zachary Amaranth said:
It's a direct quote of her words, not mine. Hence the title.Febel said:
It could well be, but that's what I have to work with here and I can't really say any differently unless I can prove otherwise.UltraXan said:
I spent a month where most of the time if I went to my kitchen, I was likely to pass by her on the couch with a huge black guy with dreadlocks, a guy complete with bling who could have told me he was 50 Cent and I'd probably have believed him, an extra straight out of "Don't mess with the Zohan", etc. Sure feels like it.JesterRaiin said:
Ok yeah, you got a chuckle out of me there.thespyisdead said:
Which is exactly why I'm looking for evidence to refute her right now. I didn't want to tell her before as it'd just be my opinion rather than a fact and I'm definitely not an expert on the matter.MassiveGeek said:
She took / let her daughters be taken to Algeria for over a decade of their childhood so that they could "learn Arabic", I really don't need evidence that she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. However, she's my sister and I do care about her so if I can talk her out of being an idiot then fantastic. Tiger Woods is a great example though, I'd forgotten about him so thanks for that.Vivi22 said:
Because she will listen to what I say when she won't even listen to our mother or anybody else, If I can persuade some sense into her life then fantastic but this subject in particular I'm not qualified to talk to anybody about unless I get some of the facts first. I'd rather try and talk her out of it than see her get hurt at some point down the line because of it.Qitz said:
I'll try to if possible, it's just the title was a direct quote. 'half-caste' though is one I've never heard of before, primarily due to having always previously steered clear of the topic of racism and political-correctness like the plague.lisadagz said:Also please... don't use the word coloured. Like the word 'half-caste' a lot of people still use it because they've been brought up using it like it's not a problem, but it gets a lot of people's backs up. After all, you're not pure white and colourless, are you? You're pinky orange.(Unless you're an albino, perhaps, but you get my point.) Some black and Asian people might not mind, or use it themselves, but the ones who do mind REALLY mind.
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That's what I have to reply to from the first page at least, felt I should post this much before I consider making it any longer.
Let's talk a little bit about the continent of Africa (Almost entirely 'coloured'), and a (relatively) recent revelation that "outsiders" made, while working to combat HIV/AIDS.
I spent a lot of my childhood in Africa, so I came across lots of stories from there. A recent one, when I was visiting my parents in Kenya, was about a recent discovery that shed some light on the unusually fast transmission spread of the virus, compared to "western" countries. Basically, most African countries have a mainly Christian population, and therefore the people there are mainly monogamous (Despite the prevalence of polygamy in most pre-colonial African traditions). Despite this however, almost everyone in these communities has a "spare wheel". A spare wheel is the term used for having an affair on the side, alongside your "official" relationship. Also, it seems like it was a "everyone knows" situations, so whether an individual was open a bout their non-official relationship or not, everybody eventually found out.(Whether they knew who specifically or not. A spouse will notice when their partner goes out at strange time and/or comes up with strange/ridiculous excuses)
The interesting thing about these spare wheels was partly that unlike in western culture, where people who have affairs, have several temporary ones, while these "Spare wheels" were long-lasting relationships. The main problem was the consequence of EVERYONE having a "Spare wheel", as it meant the spread of the HIV virus could spread to a whole town within a few nights.
Aside from this interesting side-story involving HIV/AIDS awareness, my main point remains: Whether a person is faithful or not, has NOTHING to do with the colour of their skin. NOTHING!!!! Each person is different.
Yes, some cultures are more religious than others. Yes, some religions/cultures demand more faithfulness than others. Guess what? These Christian African countries I was referring to, are VERY religious (without being extremists. They still usually believe the Bible is fact). But that doesn't stop them from openly defying that very strong cultural/religious pressure to stay monogamous.
I spent a lot of my childhood in Africa, so I came across lots of stories from there. A recent one, when I was visiting my parents in Kenya, was about a recent discovery that shed some light on the unusually fast transmission spread of the virus, compared to "western" countries. Basically, most African countries have a mainly Christian population, and therefore the people there are mainly monogamous (Despite the prevalence of polygamy in most pre-colonial African traditions). Despite this however, almost everyone in these communities has a "spare wheel". A spare wheel is the term used for having an affair on the side, alongside your "official" relationship. Also, it seems like it was a "everyone knows" situations, so whether an individual was open a bout their non-official relationship or not, everybody eventually found out.(Whether they knew who specifically or not. A spouse will notice when their partner goes out at strange time and/or comes up with strange/ridiculous excuses)
The interesting thing about these spare wheels was partly that unlike in western culture, where people who have affairs, have several temporary ones, while these "Spare wheels" were long-lasting relationships. The main problem was the consequence of EVERYONE having a "Spare wheel", as it meant the spread of the HIV virus could spread to a whole town within a few nights.
Aside from this interesting side-story involving HIV/AIDS awareness, my main point remains: Whether a person is faithful or not, has NOTHING to do with the colour of their skin. NOTHING!!!! Each person is different.
Yes, some cultures are more religious than others. Yes, some religions/cultures demand more faithfulness than others. Guess what? These Christian African countries I was referring to, are VERY religious (without being extremists. They still usually believe the Bible is fact). But that doesn't stop them from openly defying that very strong cultural/religious pressure to stay monogamous.
White consumers make up a larger majority of rap album sales than black consumers.lisadagz said:
I can't wait for her to find out that she is wrong... I also like that she is calling you a cheater, assuming you too are white. Unless, it is specifically men and whiteness that creates the infidelity magic. Oh wait...
I just cover all my bases by not trusting anyone. It's a ridiculous assumption that someones race will affect their fidelity.
Oddly I find myself attracted to bad guys becuase I know what they are like and I won't be dissapointed. Such ridiculous logic from my hormones and brain there.
It's a ridiculous assumption that someones race will affect their fidelity. Oddly I find myself attracted to bad guys becuase I know what they are like and I won't be dissapointed. Such ridiculous logic from my hormones and brain there.
Tell her to expect all men to cheat, cause I have friends of the colured side who was known to cheat and knock girls up and leave. It's a man thingAmplify said: