Comic Books VS Manga, which do you prefer?
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Comics because they make sense. Manga has too much sex/gender confusion. And they talk way too much. More than necessary.
Why...not...both? I don't see a reason why you couldn't read both comics and manga. That's a very weak and stupid question. It's like asking which you'd prefer between going to the movies, or watching a movie at home. Or whether you prefer reading paperback or hardcover. It's obtuse and utterly meaningless, with no substance, whatsoever. Both have their benefits, and both have equally engaging stories. Stop trolling, please...
I've always thought of manga and comics as being largely the same, so I enjoy both.
I too am a Spawn fan. Probably a hardcore fan. It got me into comics all over again.Volf99 said:Yes he is. I kind of have a bias, but yes I love Spawn. The reason I love Spawn is because I used to love love love(seriously) Batman, and Spawn is like Batman, but Spawn has always been much more dark and serious. So imagine Batman, but much more mature/depressing/dark/serious/violent/anti-hero. If Batman is a hero, then Spawn is a anti-hero.Vault101 said:makeup? that looks like hes part "the thing" from fantastic fourVolf99 said:Equals better than androgynous boys with girly haircuts.
also is spwan any good?
honestly? I just wanted to know more about comics/manga I thought this might be a way to do it, I did point out a I was aware of the "flamebait" nsture of "VS" threads..so apologys If I was perhaps a little lazy, but this comunity is at least mostly reasonable so I figured it wouldnt be too much of an issuen00beffect said:
of coarse you can like both....
and lesbian Vampires....if coarsePalademon said:
I'm hardly a fanatic about either except for a few select titles.
But my favourite title is a manga called Berserk. It kinda sucks now, but when it was good it was better than Watchmen. That's right, I said it!
But my favourite title is a manga called Berserk. It kinda sucks now, but when it was good it was better than Watchmen. That's right, I said it!
Comics definitely, I love me some superheroes.
Or at least, I love the idea surrounding superheroes, ordinary people gifted with extraordinary powers and how they utilize them; being self sacrificing and courageous, and living a live of constant adventure... plus the costumes are often cool.
Difficult to follow sometimes, I tend to keep up with comics via reading about them online; I tend to find it difficult to keep up with weekly issues, even though I have a comic store less than a mile from my house, and that's not mentioning the intertwined continuity, where things in one comic can affect a totally different one.
I do collect trades though, at least trades that feature any stories or heroes I have an interest in.
And because no topic about comics can be compete without discussing favorites.
Even with all the crap storylines he's been through lately, still my favorite hero.
Or at least, I love the idea surrounding superheroes, ordinary people gifted with extraordinary powers and how they utilize them; being self sacrificing and courageous, and living a live of constant adventure... plus the costumes are often cool.
Difficult to follow sometimes, I tend to keep up with comics via reading about them online; I tend to find it difficult to keep up with weekly issues, even though I have a comic store less than a mile from my house, and that's not mentioning the intertwined continuity, where things in one comic can affect a totally different one.
I do collect trades though, at least trades that feature any stories or heroes I have an interest in.
And because no topic about comics can be compete without discussing favorites.
Even with all the crap storylines he's been through lately, still my favorite hero.
....Guts would like a word, he resents being called an androgynous boy with a girly haircut.Volf99 said:Equals better than androgynous boys with girly haircuts.
OT: I ultimately prefer manga more, although that said i have partaken in some comics in my Time which i enjoyed: The Killing Joke is an excellent example of a comic i really enjoyed, as is watchmen, and i have dabbled in some parts of the batman mythos over the years.
Although seeing as Berserk is a manga which proves that underneath all the androgynous, 16 year old loud-mouthed optimists with green hair and the power of friendship...manga as a genre is still worth defending. So, I'm still of the preference of manga over comics.
Incidentally, random question, this Spawn series...can i have a quick run-down as to what the basic premise is about? Cause i've seen a bit of stuff of it around and it has slightly caught an interest in me.
Well I love them oth equally, for different things. I tend to find it easier to identify writer and writing styles in comics, and I love how they can cross over into each other. I also find the characters more identifiable (such as the new run on Animal Man).
However, I love that the stories in manga tend to be very contained and know where they're going and when they're ending. Of course, there are examples which go against this, such as Bleach, but I tend not to read those. I also like those which adapt western ideas and seeing how they rework them.
At the moment, I suppose I'm more into comics. I need to find a new manga series...
However, I love that the stories in manga tend to be very contained and know where they're going and when they're ending. Of course, there are examples which go against this, such as Bleach, but I tend not to read those. I also like those which adapt western ideas and seeing how they rework them.
At the moment, I suppose I'm more into comics. I need to find a new manga series...
Manga. Primarily because i'm an artist myself and just prefer the way it's drawn. It's much more beautiful compared to western art which is usually always just to look "cool".
Most comics are superheroes after all, and to me it just gets to a point where i can't stand that concept anymore
Most comics are superheroes after all, and to me it just gets to a point where i can't stand that concept anymore
When I walk around my local comic shop I always go through the following motions:
I look towards the american-style comics section and see an overwhelming quantity of homogenous super-heroish action comics, beating over the same themes over and over.
I look at the manga-style shelves, and see a throng of homogenous japanese-culture-soaked action/comedy/dramas beating over the same themes over and over.
Then I look at the other shelf, where comics from the rest of the world are stored (including american and japanese titles that don't fit in with the popular ones), and see a heterogenous mass of intriguing concepts, exciting art styles, novel formats, hardly explored themes or simply awesome execution... And get depressed because they are very expensive.
Guess what I'm saying is that the origin of the book is irrelevant, as long as the story, the art and the execution (and the price!) are good.
Or maybe I'm just saying this discussion gets sillier and sillier every time I come across it.
I look towards the american-style comics section and see an overwhelming quantity of homogenous super-heroish action comics, beating over the same themes over and over.
I look at the manga-style shelves, and see a throng of homogenous japanese-culture-soaked action/comedy/dramas beating over the same themes over and over.
Then I look at the other shelf, where comics from the rest of the world are stored (including american and japanese titles that don't fit in with the popular ones), and see a heterogenous mass of intriguing concepts, exciting art styles, novel formats, hardly explored themes or simply awesome execution... And get depressed because they are very expensive.
Guess what I'm saying is that the origin of the book is irrelevant, as long as the story, the art and the execution (and the price!) are good.
Or maybe I'm just saying this discussion gets sillier and sillier every time I come across it.
I'm kind of indifferent to both. I don't really like jumping into storylines when they're just in the middle of an event as it just throws me off, leaves me confused and I have to backtrack a few dozen issues just to recap what's going on. Comic books I can be a bit more lenient on as I could probably just get away with reading the origin story and the villain roster on Wikipedia or something and I could probably work out what's going on through there and being more well-known characters I'd have some idea of they're identity and some basic knowledge of what they do.
I like the best of both worlds thank you.
As a side note : i really hate comic series consisting from countless volumes, spin-offs and alternate versions that feature long, dull progress and useless crap.
I remember that at first i was enamored of Blade of Immortal, Gantz and Berserk but later (after 100 or 200 volumes) i felt like vomiting just by hearing someone mention them. :|
Same thing with X-men, Thor, Batman or similar franchises. Bluerghhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
As a side note : i really hate comic series consisting from countless volumes, spin-offs and alternate versions that feature long, dull progress and useless crap.
I remember that at first i was enamored of Blade of Immortal, Gantz and Berserk but later (after 100 or 200 volumes) i felt like vomiting just by hearing someone mention them. :|
Same thing with X-men, Thor, Batman or similar franchises. Bluerghhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
Well I guess if I had to make a generalization I prefer manga over mainstream Western comics (I don't know enough about indie comics to give an opinion on them). The differences that particularly stand out to me are:
Self-contained stories that end: This is a personal preference more than anything, but I find the mess of continuity and tie-ins in a lot of the American comics I've read confusing. I think that one writer producing a story with a definite beginning, middle and end allows for a lot more variety, creativity and expression as far as storytelling goes.
Black and white art: This is entirely a personal preference, but I have a thing for negative space. I also mostly do black and white work when I draw, so I have a better appreciation of the techniques involved than I do with color work.
Panel layout and transitions: I generally find that the Japanese comics I read have a better and more dynamic flow from panel to panel and from page to page as well as using a much wider variety of transitions between scenes (mostly adapted from cinema).
To give an idea of the experience I'm basing this on, my favorite Western comics are Hellboy, Watchmen, The Long Halloween and Tin Tin and I've had a fair amount of exposure to all the major superhero books and the stuff Vertigo publishes. I read a lot more Japanese stuff (I can read Japanese and I'm currently living in Japan, so that's only natural), but my favorites include Devilman, Monster, Vagabond, Akumetsu and Swan.
Mainstream Japanese comics definitely have far more variety than their American equivalents as a result of serving a far more diverse audience (my list of favorites included a cold war commentary about an army of demons from the south pole, a mystery/thriller about a surgeon in Germany chasing after a serial killer, a historical drama based on the life of Miyamoto Musashi and a series about ballet).
DO NOT BUY the Ghost in the Shell sequels. They are all terrible. Honestly, a Masamune Shirow series is probably a terrible place to start reading manga. Avoid all the Shonen Jump stuff too, as it's intended for 8-14 year olds and goes on forever. If you tell me what you like in Western comics I can probably give you some recommendations.
Self-contained stories that end: This is a personal preference more than anything, but I find the mess of continuity and tie-ins in a lot of the American comics I've read confusing. I think that one writer producing a story with a definite beginning, middle and end allows for a lot more variety, creativity and expression as far as storytelling goes.
Black and white art: This is entirely a personal preference, but I have a thing for negative space. I also mostly do black and white work when I draw, so I have a better appreciation of the techniques involved than I do with color work.
Panel layout and transitions: I generally find that the Japanese comics I read have a better and more dynamic flow from panel to panel and from page to page as well as using a much wider variety of transitions between scenes (mostly adapted from cinema).
To give an idea of the experience I'm basing this on, my favorite Western comics are Hellboy, Watchmen, The Long Halloween and Tin Tin and I've had a fair amount of exposure to all the major superhero books and the stuff Vertigo publishes. I read a lot more Japanese stuff (I can read Japanese and I'm currently living in Japan, so that's only natural), but my favorites include Devilman, Monster, Vagabond, Akumetsu and Swan.
Mainstream Japanese comics definitely have far more variety than their American equivalents as a result of serving a far more diverse audience (my list of favorites included a cold war commentary about an army of demons from the south pole, a mystery/thriller about a surgeon in Germany chasing after a serial killer, a historical drama based on the life of Miyamoto Musashi and a series about ballet).
DO NOT BUY the Ghost in the Shell sequels. They are all terrible. Honestly, a Masamune Shirow series is probably a terrible place to start reading manga. Avoid all the Shonen Jump stuff too, as it's intended for 8-14 year olds and goes on forever. If you tell me what you like in Western comics I can probably give you some recommendations.
Neither for they are to competely different things. Ok yes they both involve stories in form of illustrations but the stories are different. Again yes there are superheroes manga and vice visa but when I want to read storties about superheroes, I go to comicbooks and if I want to read some other stores I go to Manga. There is no single preference for me.