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Johnny Novgorod

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It annoys me when aliens are too similar to stuff that exists on Earth. We and everything else are the result of an extraordinarily convoluted and unlikely evolutionary process started millions of years ago. It would be scientifically impossible for something with anything even remotely similar to EYES to exist outside planet Earth.

Now because we can't all be Stanley Kubrick and make 2001: A Space Odyssey, this is a trope I have to tolerate and doesn't have to get in the way of my enjoyment. Star Wars is closer to fantasy after all, not sci-fi (at least originally). But the supposedly "hard" sci-fi flicks that ignore evolution are downright insulting.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
It annoys me when aliens are too similar to stuff that exists on Earth. We and everything else are the result of an extraordinarily convoluted and unlikely evolutionary process started millions of years ago. It would be scientifically impossible for something with anything even remotely similar to EYES to exist outside planet Earth.
Eyes could evolve anywhere where there's light. If a sentient cloud evolved on some gas giant as long as there was something worth seeing, a mate, prey, a predator they would likely develope some organs for sensing light and we would call those organs eyes. The eyes would likely be located above a neck and near the mouth also, because that's just a sensible layout natural selection would move towards. Also, eyes have developed independently something like 15 time on earth. It's just always been useful to see, so different lifeforms evolved to see without a shared ancestor that could also see.
 

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Something that seems to be common, at least in the Star Wars expanded universe, is that people from the same planet have almost the same personality, like how Han Solo doesn't like being told the odds because he's Corellian AND NO CORELLIAN LIKES BEING TOLD WHAT THE ODDS ARE. There's a difference between having similar frames of reference and whatever the hell this is.
What about Wedge Antilles? He's Corellian and he's nothing at all like Han. He doesn't even have the same accent in each movie, it keeps changing.

Captcha: reduplicated phrases.

what do you know?
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Pinocchio Robots. Fuck you, I am fucking sick of your "I wanna be a real human!" bullshit. Mass Effect 3, you're one of the biggest culprits of this. The Geth and EDI were perfectly happy living as bits and bytes, why did you have to go and ruin that in favor of this played out junk?
I would expand this to any alien who is either over-complimentary of humanity or who expresses a desire to be human. Granted this isn't as common but it's still annoying.

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I understand why this has to happen and also why it's so ubiquitous but it really, REALLY annoys me when the sci-fi humans from Earth travel to distant lands only to find that the indigenous species are...humans. It doesn't matter if they're hairless, have green skin or, can wiggle their ear-lobes, I hate it when the galaxy is populated by people who look like they could be my neighbors and co-workers. Humanoids are a bit annoying too...Garrus and Wrex look cool and all but they're still bipedal and have thumbs...I would have loved for an Elcor or Hanar to join up with Shepard.

I can understand why that can't be but it still annoys me.

Another thing...why isn't sci-fantasy more of a thing? Why is it so uncommon (if not shunned outright) to see Space Dragons and Star Cruisers engage in epic combat? Hell, I don't even see robotic dragons very often...On the other end of the spectrum, why can't lords and kings defend against the black knights of Hell using plasma weapons and, force fields?!

Soviet Heavy said:
Something that seems to be common, at least in the Star Wars expanded universe, is that people from the same planet have almost the same personality, like how Han Solo doesn't like being told the odds because he's Corellian AND NO CORELLIAN LIKES BEING TOLD WHAT THE ODDS ARE. There's a difference between having similar frames of reference and whatever the hell this is.
Another thing that annoyed me about Star Wars, every planet is one specific thing. Tattooine is a Desert. The Moon of Dagoba is a swampy forest. The Moon of Endor is a Forest-Forest. Planets don't work that way dammit! Then again...Star Wars was sci-fantasy more than anything...and I just complained about there not being enough of that...
 

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"They're getting through our secondary Firewalls!"

Or:

"It's simple, it all works through our 'Central Kinetic Balance Generator Processor'"


I can handle English speaking Aliens, I love the concepts of AI/VI and Androids and I love Outterspace settings. I don't really care about tropes provided they serve for the Narrative. I'm smart enough to separate nitpicking with creative license.
 

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Cockable beam weapons.

It's a beam weapon, you pillocks. There are no moving parts.
 
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i quite like your second point, i say keep the job changes.

I hate that Star Trek thing of nameing a couple of famous scientists for example, and then throwing a future scientist from Star Treks canons past, just to show... well i dont know what its meant to show. i'm probably explaining it badly too

EDIT: oh yeah and "reverse the polarity"
 

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Cockable beam weapons.

It's a beam weapon, you pillocks. There are no moving parts.
really? where have you seen this?

for my own gripe: technobabble. i don't care if the transmolecular-inverse-tetryon polarity reverted transmogrifcationatormotronoton needs new batteries, say it in plain english!
 

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Time travel and multiple universes.

Any faults that the series may have are attributed to this garbage, and it just fucking sucks. No, it's not imaginative to re-structure the current world - it just destroys the pacing of the show.
 

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Generalissimo said:
Reed Spacer said:
Cockable beam weapons.

It's a beam weapon, you pillocks. There are no moving parts.
really? where have you seen this?

for my own gripe: technobabble. i don't care if the transmolecular-inverse-tetryon polarity reverted transmogrifcationatormotronoton needs new batteries, say it in plain english!
In at least one Doctor Who episode.
 

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Time travel and multiple universes.

Any faults that the series may have are attributed to this garbage, and it just fucking sucks. No, it's not imaginative to re-structure the current world - it just destroys the pacing of the show.
Really? I dunno, a couple of my favourite shows/books involve one or both of these things. Now, granted, if it's poorly written, it's poorly written, but I don't think that this should automatically make a show bad- it's all down to execution.
 

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if we are talking about overused sci-fi tropes im pretty sick of seeing the ancient and highly advanced race of aliens that mysteriously vanished leaving only their ruins full of advanced technology

The Xel naga from Starcraft
The Protheans from Mass Effect
The Forerunners from Halo
The Precursors from Jak and Daxter (im reaching with this one)
 

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Basically any movie that presents itself as sci-fi these days. It always has to be a class war. The trope 'good sci-fi is sci-fi that is analogous to current culture', basically. I hate it.
 

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As much a Fantasy one as a Sci-Fi one: Humans being either weaker than or average to other races. The "average human" being more the leaning of fantasy as the jack of all trades with a reproduction rate usually second only to the worlds orcs with Sci-Fi being more guilty of humans being weak with regard to other races in one way or another, usually physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually or intellectually.

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When certain things really show their age when it comes to diversity. Like in old SF especialy, where there are way more male scientists and leaders than female ones. This isn't a social justice thing; it's the lack of realism in the idea that people hundreds or thousands of years in the future still wouldn't have decreased racial and gender discrimination a bit since the book was written, even though it was written in a time when that kind of discrimination was steadily decreasing.
I don't find it an issue of realism at all and has more to do with your perceptions of the progress of society being linear.

While this may be the way the world is going presently, when dealing with speculative fiction you're open to a wide range of things, and yes, a more "old fashion" outlook is a possibility due to environment and social pressures.

What if Mankind gets reduced to only a few tens of thousands and maximizing childbirth goes from an imperative to a moral virtue and any which gets in the way of that is looked on as a social evil, like homosexuality, long after the need for such a view has passed because necessity turned into tradition.

Or, for a revival of racism one could have Mankind (or certain ethnic groups) be so decimated that the surviving groups are so small that the fear of losing their identity and literally their appearance makes people coalesce into tight knit groups which avoid others and again look on miscegenation as social evil.

Given the ebb and flow history these possibilities are just as likely, if not more so likely given human nature, than a future with little to no racial, sexual or gender discrimination.

1) when completely alien species are both a) sexually attracted to humans and b) can FUCKING MAKE BABIES WITH THE HUMANS. Like... jesus christ guys, just because it's got 2 legs doesn't mean we are in any way, shape or form genetically compatible and capable of breeding with a species that evolved a billion light years away from us.
I loath this one.

A human being would have a better chance of reproducing with a plant or fungus than it would have with an alien.

Another thing that annoyed me about Star Wars, every planet is one specific thing. Tattooine is a Desert. The Moon of Dagoba is a swampy forest. The Moon of Endor is a Forest-Forest. Planets don't work that way dammit! Then again...Star Wars was sci-fantasy more than anything...and I just complained about there not being enough of that...
The thing is, this isn't limited to just Star Wars.

The only Sci-Fi world which had a rational reason for a single dominant ecosystem to encompass a planet was Dune and that was entirely due to the Sandtrout and their instinctive obsession collect and horde water deep beneath the ground because it was a necessary component to their lifecycle.

if we are talking about overused sci-fi tropes im pretty sick of seeing the ancient and highly advanced race of aliens that mysteriously vanished leaving only their ruins full of advanced technology

The Xel naga from Starcraft
The Protheans from Mass Effect
The Forerunners from Halo
The Precursors from Jak and Daxter (im reaching with this one)
It's become so silly I find the sheer number of franchises who use the name Precursor to be hilarious.

It's the Sci-Fi race equivalent of general movie/game titles like Revolution and Revelations.

I don't know if the Protheans count - we later learn why they vanished.
How does that change things?

They remain the stereotypical super old, super advanced race whose technological level is and seemingly will never be surpassed by younger races, technology in ruins that usually take the shape of massive space stations and superweapons.

Basically any movie that presents itself as sci-fi these days. It always has to be a class war. The trope 'good sci-fi is sci-fi that is analogous to current culture', basically. I hate it.
Another one I loath, one that is also in a lot of popular fantasy, like Warcraft 3 making it the orcs being herded into camps being something of a bad thing when they were nothing but mindless, bloodthirsty warmongers to humans.

I'm all together sick of present social issues being the focus Sci-Fi. Either look towards a future where different circumstances will create new and different ones or back off from it and create a new world focused more around a historical perspective where cultures and civilizations come and go.
 

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as for being done poorly, Mass Effect's Citadel.


Reason for it being there? cause the reapers want the galactic civilization to form around it. no other reason given.
And that isn't a perfectly good reason because? In my mind it makes total sense if you know the Reapers motivations (which you do at the end of the first game).
 

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1.) Abuse of the word "quantum" makes me absolutely cringe.

2.) Needlessly high tech weapons and equipment. I was just today replaying Halo CE and found the Covenant designs to be extremely guilty of this. These aliens with all their sci fi plasma-lasers are being mowed down with weapons whose operating principles haven't really changed since the 1950s. Sure, a plasma gun isn't completely impossible, at least in theory: you just need to be able to create a hand-portable device light enough to be used in combat and durable enough to not have its extremely precise mechanisms be disrupted (remember, these devices are frequently used in melee combat as bludgeons), and be able to generate enough power to create the plasma, and then it has to contain the plasma while it is projected, and then there has to be a system to keep the plasma hot and focused on its trajectory, and it has to do all this without burning the user whose hands may be mere inches from the plasma generator with the enormous temperatures required to sustain plasma. Oh, and it won't do any more damage than a conventional bullet.

You could also just use a bullet.

3.) Assuming that technological progress occurs in dramatic leaps and discoveries. It doesn't. There will not be one single event that signifies humanity's change from a "normal" civilization what is shown in sci fi.

4.) Humans as "the standard". The humans have no special abilities....BUT ALSO NO WEAKNESSES! Wooooooo! Really, there are actually a lot of things we kind of suck at. We're not terribly physically strong and don't have a great deal in the way of natural defenses.

5.) All species, human and alien, are unified under a single leader or government. Okay, just take one look at today's geopolitics and tell me that you think this is ever going to happen.
 

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*One character does techno-bable with a fellow scientist/geek.
Along comes the techno-idiot in the group (like Jack from Stargate) crying out "Durr! Explain what you were talking about in English so I won't feel left out!". At least Star Trek is reasonable with it, most of the time.

*Deus ex machina for the sake of deus ex machina. But that can be said for every genre. "I successfully transformamorfahack the toaster into a time machine in the last minute, such luck!".

*That hackers use an absurd amount of screens, because that means you are skilled. And let's not get started on counter hacking measures. I would link the NCIS clip, but everyone has seen it already.
 

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heroicbob said:
if we are talking about overused sci-fi tropes im pretty sick of seeing the ancient and highly advanced race of aliens that mysteriously vanished leaving only their ruins full of advanced technology

The Xel naga from Starcraft
The Protheans from Mass Effect
The Forerunners from Halo
The Precursors from Jak and Daxter (im reaching with this one)
I don't know if the Protheans count - we later learn why they vanished.
 

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beastro said:
I don't find it an issue of realism at all and has more to do with your perceptions of the progress of society being linear.

While this may be the way the world is going presently, when dealing with speculative fiction you're open to a wide range of things, and yes, a more "old fashion" outlook is a possibility due to environment and social pressures.

What if Mankind gets reduced to only a few tens of thousands and maximizing childbirth goes from an imperative to a moral virtue and any which gets in the way of that is looked on as a social evil, like homosexuality, long after the need for such a view has passed because necessity turned into tradition.

Or, for a revival of racism one could have Mankind (or certain ethnic groups) be so decimated that the surviving groups are so small that the fear of losing their identity and literally their appearance makes people coalesce into tight knit groups which avoid others and again look on miscegenation as social evil.

Given the ebb and flow history these possibilities are just as likely, if not more so likely given human nature, than a future with little to no racial, sexual or gender discrimination.
Certainly, that could happen. Only, that's never mentioned.

For some reason, most sci-fi shows that are dominated by white straight people don't have the heroes talk about how they wiped out all the black people and drove homosexuals underground, for example.