concern for pixars next movie

[TheDarkestDerp]

This isn't the first Pixar film I haven't cared a jot about. That dubious honor goes to Cars 2. This is the first Pixar movie I'm actively disliking and am disappointed in. Pixar has always been, if nothing else, imaginative and fun. From the struggling Dad and his super-family in The Incredibles, to the cautionary tale/quirky romance of WALL E, to the heartbreaking tragedy and triumph of UP!, Pixar has cut their own cloth and sewn it.

Brave is shite. Utter and total tripe from the Disney school of 'generic heroine who wishes for something more out of life than stereotyped life A'. It's been done a dozen times before by Disney's team of hack writers, it's sure to be done again and again, but dammit, why did it have to be Pixar this time...? Yeah, I know. *sighs* Paper stuff... it's green...

Every trailer I've had to sit through, waiting for the movie of the evening to start, all I can hear is Dot Warner singing "The Generic Heroine" song on Animaniacs... That, at least, gives me a giggle...

 

[Mikeyfell]

Seriously?
Don't get me wrong I usually love Pixar but I usually love their movies after I've seen them.
Toy Story, Walle, The Incredibles, Up. They're all great movies but I never actually "wanted" to see any of them until after reviews or they're out on DVD or I want to see it just because it's Pixar.

Brave is the first one that I actively want to see, regardless of reviews or branding

Also I think "joke" is the wrong word OP. I would have gone with "concept" because in the case of Walle "What if every aspect of human life was controlled by machines" and Up "What does a man do when he has nothing left to lose?" or Cars "How do we increase our profit margin by 200% this fiscal year?" they can get very depressing.

 

[Dragonclaw]

Pixar never fails to surprise me when I start having lower expectations. I really had ho interest in Cars..."Oh look, we've taken the Chevron commercial toys and recast them into the Michael J Fox movie Doc Hollywood"...seriously, it's almost verbatim plot point for plot point...but I ended up liking the heck out of it. I had zero interest in UP, but it ended up being a great, even if sad, flick. Wall-E is probably my least favorite Pixar movie, but I think Brave will do OK and I'm not going to give it a shot.

 

[drummond13]

I think you're confusing the word "joke" with the word "premise".

And I wouldn't say Finding Nemo had a "joke", other than the fact that fish could talk to each other.

 

[Mikeyfell]

That women can be warriors.

Let's ask an expert on the subject.

Spoiler

And I'm sorry if you haven't played Dragon Age Origin, because if you hadn't this wouldn't be funny at all, and I would have wasted both of our times.

 

[lRookiel]

It's Pixar I'm sure they can pull it off, they have never disappointed me before so I'll remain optimistic

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

Hmmm... Interesting thought about the "jokes", or rather concept questions, that Pixar seems to base their movies around.

Now I find myself trying to find the other concept questions that the other Pixar films were possibly based around. "What if a rat was a brilliant cook?" for Ratatouille. I'm assuming Up's would have been something along the lines of "What if an elderly man became an adventurer again?"

What would have been Finding Nemo's? Just... what if fish talked? The setup is very simple. I don't really see a concept question behind it that drove the plot forward.

Anyway, Brave hasn't come out yet, but I love the Celtic setting and the characters I've seen. So whatever. I'll wait til I see it to make any judgement calls.

 

[MyNameIsNowNotMyName]

Brave is probably the first Pixar movie I'm not even remotely interested in

You too, eh?

I love the way Brave looks and what it appears to be thus far. Actually, I wouldn't say I hate all other Pixar movies. Or that this is the first Pixar film I'm interested in. I love Finding Nemo. But this looks like the most promising Pixar film thus far.

As a fan of RPGs and fantasy fiction, Brave is right up my alley. I'm certainly not a violence nut, but it is refreshing to see a "warrior" theme, come out of Pixar. Being films primarily directed at children(much like My Little Pony and animation in general, sadly), you cannot expect much violence out of them. And luckily, you also can't expect much pointless violence for the sake of violence exploitation flick crud either, luckily. It's a good tradeoff. Then there is, of course, a strong, female protagonist like I've been dying for more of film forever. Oh, and I love Celtic culture, too.

I think they're going to handle this really intelligently. And for the first time ever, I'm super hyped up for a Pixar film. It might actually drag me out to the theater.

Good lord, did I misread.

Well needless to say, the person I'm quoting is not a "you too, eh?". Considering that Brave is the first time I've been interested in a Pixar film in years. While the person I am quoting, appears to only disinterested in this one. We're opposites.

Holy crap! You're alive! no hard feelings... Right?
On-Topic: Meh, I'm not too interested in it, but then again when I always eventually see Pixar movies on ABC Family, I'm always like, "Holy Crap! How did I miss this?!"

 

[Sean951]

Brave is probably the first Pixar movie I'm not even remotely interested in, even less so than Cars. I don't what it is about it, it just doesn't look the slightest bit interesting to me.

The others were comedies, this is not.

Remember, Disney now owns Pixar. They were bound to make more "disney style" movies, and we know these days Disney is trying to make "serious dramas with some laughs" for kids.

Disney has always owned Pixar, and John Lasseter (Founder of Pixar) is now the top guy in charge of all animated movies by dinsney and pixar, so even disney movies independent of Pixar still have that pixar touch.

lol, history fail. They only bought it 6 years ago.

"The precursor to Pixar began in 1974 with the initial hire of Ed Catmull at Alexander Shure's New York Institute of Technology to lead a team of researchers tasked to apply computer technology to automate the process of graphic animation. The team was eventually absorbed in 1979 as the Graphics Group, part of the computer division of Lucasfilm before it was acquired by Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Jobs in 1986. The Walt Disney Company bought Pixar in 2006 at a valuation of $7.4 billion" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixar

Now 2006 is an important date. Before that date you have Toy Story, A Bugs Life, Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, the Incredibles, Cars. All stories that focus on fun and comedy. Now lets look post 2006, WallE, UP, Brave, Toy Story 3, Cars 2.

Notice that except for the two continuations of old franchises, the other 3 movies are the ones sighted in this thread as having a different tone? That's the Disney influence on the company.

I trust my point is now made and next time you will research before you put forward your guess as a fact.

Brave is probably the first Pixar movie I'm not even remotely interested in, even less so than Cars. I don't what it is about it, it just doesn't look the slightest bit interesting to me.

The others were comedies, this is not.

Comedies? In the Greek play sense, of having a good ending for most protagonists, maybe. Did you not notice the most heart-wrenching eight minutes in cinematic history at the beginning of Up,

Up was not one of the movies that had been mentioned as a comedy. It's part of the post-Disney productions;

But weren't all the previous films done in conjunction with Disney? Why else could I find Toy Story stuff in the Disney Store when I was 7 and OMG TOY STORY!

 

[Raven's Nest]

Ouch, I feel sorry for Pixar. Most of you recognise that they have produced some outstanding films over the last 15 or so years but they still get second guessed over a trailer? C'mon guys, wait till the films out to judge it. They've earned that surely?

 

[Darks63]

My interest meter hit zero as soon as i saw the triplets, i get annoyed just looking at stills of them.

 

[Asita]

Right there with yah. I was surprised to see a Pixar trailer that did not interest me. I mean, every pixar trailer I have ever seen along with the movies after have impressed and kept close to my heart.. but this one, it's just.. not working with me. Nothing funny or otherwise exciting comes from that trailer. All I saw was some cheesy stuff and a girl running around..... mainly that's it.

I think the problem is that they're trying to hard. All the characters are over the top, even the bears feel over the top along with those three little boys. How can I like characters like that, when they got no motive or purpose but then again I am unsure what anything is with this movie because it doesn't explain much other then a girl wanting some freedom from her society.

Out of curiousity, is that including or excluding things like the Prize trailer? Because I know that for me at least the newer trailers are making me question the movie's worth, while the older ones have me curious. Honestly, I think that's the most jarring thing about this movie's pre-release: how radically different the early teasers/trailers are from the later ones. The former made Brave look like a serious production, whereas the latter seem to be pushing the 'this is a zany comedy' angle.

For reference:

 

[Signa]

]You think? Hm. Don't think there are any DreamWorks animations I like.

I like Antz better than a bugs life...

but that was way back when

when I first hear about Kung Fu panda I thought "oh great..jack blacks a panda..fucking hilarious" however when I watched the thing I found that it was an awesome martial arts movie which was obviously well made with effort and some really beautiful moments

how to train your dragon had none of the annoying things associated with Dream works movies like stupid pop culture references, and it was good

Haven't seen mega mind but apparently that's pretty good too

Just not my thing, it seems. I'm more into movies like Antichrist, Jacob's Ladder, Resovoir Dogs, Martyrs--more sort of serious films that involve a lot of thinking. I guess I'm too uptight to enjoy a bit of a fun, kiddy flick

You're watching the wrong "kiddy flicks" if you think that The Incredibles is actually a kiddy flick.

 

[chadachada123]

I've enjoyed every Pixar film that I've ever sat down to watch, and the only two that I haven't seen are Ratatouille and Cars 2.

While I disliked the trailer, I dislike most Pixar trailers but always end up pleasantly surprised. This happened with Wall-E and UP, both of which I refused to watch until finally giving it a chance and being amazed by the quality and story.

I would give Brave a 90% chance of being an incredible movie like the rest.

 

[lord canti]

I actually more excited about this than any other pixar film in awhile. Maybe it's because it's so unique for pixar to a film in this style.

 

[Reginald]

The joke will probably have something to do with bears.

Maybe everyone in the movie turn into bears? What if the king and queen of a country turned into bears?

I dunno...

Anyway, I'm still interested in that movie.

The film was written, directed, and animated by bears, and all profits will go towards honey and red birds with bad attitudes for the bears. Regardless of quality, the film will be as good as The Maltese Falcon and A Fistful Of Dollars.

 

[Syzygy23]

i have a bit of a sinking feeling in anticipation for brave, i expect it to be good, but currently i cant think of the joke that will be holding the movie together.

what i mean by this is that every pixar movie has had a joke that held everything together, be it toy stories "what if toys were alive?" to cars' "what if the world were nothing but cars?" or even the incredibles "what if super-heroes had to be ordinary?" from each of the questions framing the movies they take the setting and then create the story out of it. in brave i cant think of what it could be, but it may also be that pixar never revealed the jokes before release and i never noticed it since this is the first time i'm anticipating a pixar movie.

the one thing i did contemplate is maybe the joke is simply "what if the main character was a girl?" but that almost seems weak for a setup

I feel like Pixar maybe decided to make a racist joke here about the Irish...

 

[Henkie36]

Well, I think that there doesn't have to be one single joke to hold a movie together. Why? It forces the movie to get more creative. Cars had very high ''it's funny cause they are cars'' levels, but most of the jokes didn't work for me. I mean, sum up Tangled in one joke. You can't do it, because they get really creative with it, writing funny jokes, jokes that can be funny on their own, you don't need to see the movie to be able to laugh at them.

And of course, if you have just one single joke, it's going to get really old. The first time, it's funny, the second, it's ok but by the thrid time, you're already sick of it. That's why I didn't like Cars all that much: I was sick of the carjokes after about fifteen minutes, at which point, i still had more then an hour of them awaiting me.