JoJo Bizzaro 7 said:
One episode. Didn't care for it.
Fair enough. Despite only one episode, at least you gave it a look, which is more than a lot of people would do. ^_^
JoJo Bizzaro 7 said:
You pronounce yourself the perfect response to my post, claim you will use your own personal example against my points because they apply to the majority of your fellow fans, and then claim not to be smug. Okay, I guess.
That was my bad, articulation has never been one of my strong points. By "perfect response", I merely meant that as far as I could see at the time, nothing of what you said applied to me. I am not pleased with myself, or have any sense of self-satisfaction from this (as the word "smug" implies), I simply found myself to be the best counter-point/response I could think of, since I don't know anyone else personally, who is also a good response to what you posted, that you would also know.
I also realise that you would have to take my word for it that everything I say about myself is true, but that's something I hope anyone would do if they wanted to have a serious discussion over an internet forum.
JoJo Bizzaro 7 said:
So, then you aren't one of the "devotees" I mentioned? You're just someone who likes the show. Okay. Well then, what is your problem with me?
I'm sorry if it came across this way, but I don't have a problem with you personally. Just what you posted. ^_^
My problem is this. It's not that you were just addressing the "semi-conscious devotees of a fad" (which anyone, myself included, would agree are a part of the MLP:FiM fandom just as much as they are a part of
any fandom). It's that you implied that
anyone who would call themself a brony is one of these devotees, i.e. they are only a brony because it's yet another internet fad. From there, you then called them all "The same easily swayed, marketable people who somehow think they have control over their unhealthy addiction to "popular" culture."
If I've read that wrong, then I apologise. But it really did look like you were calling everypony one of the aforementioned semi-conscious devotees, and then belittling the whole group.
JoJo Bizzaro 7 said:
So, your problem with me is that I have a problem with people you do not directly affiliate yourself with, in fact you are in way superior, but are connected by cartoon ponies that somehow aren't really part of pop culture because it is a television show with a large internet fanbase filled with fans, such as yourself. Umm... okay?
You may have misunderstood what I was saying, possibly accidentally or once again on my behalf with bad articulation. But I was not implying that I am superior, nor was I implying that I wouldn't affiliate with the group. On the contrary, I am no better or worse than anyone on The Escapist, and I'm more than happy to state that I like the show, and am a proud member of the group on these forums.
About Pop Culture, your definition is correct. I was simply referring to the fact that if I were to include something as part of "pop culture", there would usually be a lot of people in real life who are also a fan of whatever they're talking about at that point in time, or at the very least, a fair portion of the population who knew about it (in this case, people know about My Little Pony, for sure. But in my experience, there are very few people who know about the latest reboot of the series). Of course there is a large following on the internet, but you can find followers for almost anything on here, too.
Personally, I find that discovering a lot of people who collectively enjoy something on the internet is not enough for it to be defined as part of pop culture.
JoJo Bizzaro 7 said:
Ugh, I loathe when someone says "haters,' but that's just me. Also, it's good that your group can chat amongst each other, make your own threads, and do whatever. However, it's also good for a counter-culture to have the same right and to use it how it pleases. I'm glad we agree.
I was merely using "haters" because it's a short, succinct term which (I'd imagine) everyone on here is familiar with.
And, yea. It's good to agree on certain points, isn't it? ^_^
It's lucky for me that my final paragraph wasn't intended to be an argument either way, just an interesting point (as was implied by "As a more general note here...")
It was meant for anyone currently watching this thread who are thinking of complaining about the sometimes ridiculous amounts of MLP threads that can be active here on The Escapist. It's been stated before, but just for the record, they generally can annoy the fans just as much as they annoy anyone else.
(Personally, I've never really been annoyed at repeat-threads since I know that repeat-threads usually
are a recurring fad for different topics. There have only been a few instances where I've been annoyed by them, and they were all because we had some people making heaps of Goatse-style threads before the mods could stop him/her, a couple years ago.)
