Concerning "soulja boy" and his lyrics.

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Madcat75

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first off watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djk7UWi_dvU&feature=player_embedded

Then you should check out Drowning Pool who have made a song called "Soldiers" in support of all troops no matter the nationality fighing in Afghanistan and Iraq, they have also done....

http://thisisforthesoldiers.org/

They are only 1 of a number of Heavy Metal bands who are supporting our troops by doing USO shows, this is why I will always listen to Metal and not that bunch of self absorbed, egotistical, waste of space, no talent, piece of cowardly shit rap ( and I use the term VERY loosely) "artists"
 

No_Remainders

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Yay for taking a single rapper and labelling every single one as "self-absorbed, egotistical, waste of space, no talent, piece of cowardly shit"

Let's just think about this for a second. There are, despite the fact that I dislike it, several rap artists who genuinely deserve the praise they get.

Listen to the likes of Saul Williams. He's fantastic. Definitely one of my favourite musicians of all time. He's a genius. Also: Zack De La Rocha. Also, Serj Tankian.


As for heavy metal, and what the band does... Not being American, I couldn't give a flying shit about your soldiers. I prefer to judge a band/artist on their music, rather than them singing for idiots who go to war.
 

Arachon

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Look, 95% of everything is crap, so get off your high horse, there are *loads* of crap metal bands, just as there are good rap groups, including ones that "supports the troops". Besides, expanding your taste in music is never a bad thing.
 

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That was a painfully bad rant. But, yes, stereotypical rap music does tend to follow a pretty unimpressive trend.

Also, he calls himself "Soulja boy". I mean, really, what do you expect?
 

Wuggy

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Generalization much?

Look, I like metal more than I like hip hop, but I seriously fail to see what you're trying to say there. Soulja Boy is an asshole ergo rap is crap? Soulja Boy says something bad about the troops and some random metal band shows their support for them ergo metal is good and rap is bad?

Besides, I fail to see what supporting the troops has to do with the actual musical merit anyway.
 

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Feeling better about yourself and your taste in music now? Needed to verify that in front of everybody? Seriously: Why are you doing this?

I'm sorry, you don't have to like rap music, I know plenty of people who just don't like it musically, but saying every single rapper sing about bitches, money and drugs is like saying every metal band sings about worshipping satan. It's just not true. I listen to almost every kind of music there is, from Aggrotech-Industrial to Ska, and it always strikes me as insecurity about ones self, when someone tries to downtalk whole genres just because he doesn't listen to them.
 

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Madcat75 said:
first off watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djk7UWi_dvU&feature=player_embedded

Then you should check out Drowning Pool who have made a song called "Soldiers" in support of all troops no matter the nationality fighing in Afghanistan and Iraq, they have also done....

http://thisisforthesoldiers.org/

They are only 1 of a number of Heavy Metal bands who are supporting our troops by doing USO shows, this is why I will always listen to Metal and not that bunch of self absorbed, egotistical, waste of space, no talent, piece of cowardly shit rap ( and I use the term VERY loosely) "artists"
and what about those rappers who served in their countries military?

or all the others who aren't this one person.

unbelievable.
 

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Wuggy said:
Generalization much?

Look, I like metal more than I like hip hop, but I seriously fail to see what you're trying to say there. Soulja Boy is an asshole ergo rap is crap? Soulja Boy says something bad about the troops and some random metal band shows their support for them ergo metal is good and rap is bad?

Besides, I fail to see what supporting the troops has to do with the actual musical merit anyway.
Pretty much this.
In all honesty, I don't think that Drowning Pool are even that good anyway.
There are crap asshole rappers, and there are crap asshole metal bands.
 

Hoplon

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Yeah I'll buy this when more metal bands get over screaming in to the mike as a "vocal style"
 

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Dear god I tried to listen to that song to see what the fuss was and putting aside the lyrics, which I agree were a really idiotic thing to put in there, how the HELL is that music??

I am not a rap fan, I'll admit - but I've heard plenty of rap and even if it's not exactly my kind of music you can tell when someone has talent.. there was none in that 'song'. Hell it wasn't even a song - it was an idiot rambling with some music playing.

Please, if there are any rap fans out there who can tell me just what part of that utter crap actually counted as music I would be most appreciative. Because frankly, if that was rap, then I'm a rapper. A tone deaf rapper. Who can't sing. Or Rhyme.
 

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Madcat75 said:
first off watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djk7UWi_dvU&feature=player_embedded

Then you should check out Drowning Pool who have made a song called "Soldiers" in support of all troops no matter the nationality fighing in Afghanistan and Iraq, they have also done....

http://thisisforthesoldiers.org/

They are only 1 of a number of Heavy Metal bands who are supporting our troops by doing USO shows, this is why I will always listen to Metal and not that bunch of self absorbed, egotistical, waste of space, no talent, piece of cowardly shit rap ( and I use the term VERY loosely) "artists"
Drowning Pool is metal if you are like 14. Seriously they suck.

Soulja Boy also sucks

you pretty much made a thread about 2 shitty bands. Also I don't care about "songs for the troops", it's not like the British ones even know who Drowning Pool are.

If they want to support the troops convince world leaders to pull them out of afghanistan and iraq so they don't have to die for a non existent cause, which is ultimately a veiled resource grab.

I support the troops by looking after their kids while they are on deployment, and the kids are devastated and for what? Corrupt politicians sending people to war on a questionable premise?

Also some rap music is good. That's coming from me, a metalhead.
 

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No_Remainders said:
As for heavy metal, and what the band does... Not being American, I couldn't give a flying shit about your soldiers. I prefer to judge a band/artist on their music, rather than them singing for idiots who go to war.
Bit harsh mate. Just because you're not American doesn't mean you can't have a bit of compassion for your fellow human beings. I'm not Jewish, doesn't mean I don't feel sympathy for victims of the holocaust.
 

Jake Lewis Clayton

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Yeah I'm going out on a limb as a British person who hangs around with quite a large fellowship of metalheads, and I can't say drowning pool actually strikes a chord memory wise.

Doubt many if any at all of the British troops (who are awesome by the way) have heard of drowning pool, and so a song of support they will never hear probably does nothing for them.

On the other hand, quite a few british rappers and other bands have gone over and visited our troops.

Not seeing why a band which stays at home and writes a song which no-one will ever hear is that important?
 

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Mandalore_15 said:
No_Remainders said:
As for heavy metal, and what the band does... Not being American, I couldn't give a flying shit about your soldiers. I prefer to judge a band/artist on their music, rather than them singing for idiots who go to war.
Bit harsh mate. Just because you're not American doesn't mean you can't have a bit of compassion for your fellow human beings. I'm not Jewish, doesn't mean I don't feel sympathy for victims of the holocaust.
Not really. I don't feel compassion for people who go to war. They choose to. I can't feel sorry in any way for someone who signs up to try to fight against people, and it's their fault if they suffer as a result.

I do, however, feel sympathy for the victims of the holocaust, because that's something different entirely. Soldiers choose to go to war. Jews didn't choose to be massacred.
 

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Jake Lewis Clayton said:
Doubt many if any at all of the British troops (who are awesome by the way) have heard of drowning pool,
As an ex British soldier who hasn't been out very long I can say that there are a lot of British soldiers who have heard of Drowning Pool.

We may be soldiers but we don't live under a fucking rock.

Some of us may not like the music they do but we do hear it.

See they have a device that plays songs, some people call it a "wireless" but I think it's a magic song box.

I apologise for the sarcasm but a couple of comments here make it sound like we join the army and then never listen to music .... we even watch a thing they call "television" that has tiny people living in it.
 

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A) The vast majority of the rap scene hate Soulja Boy. B) Generally when a metal band makes a war song it will almost certainly be anti-war, this is a very rare exception.

I'm a metalhead, I have been for a very long time. That said I like some rap. You have picked some of the worst artists from both genres. Drowning Pool are a terrible, terrible band. A lot of people will say music is subject to opinion but Drowning Pool take some guitars with distortion, play some infuriatingly simple riffs and sound kind of angry in a bid to capitalize on a fourteen year olds inability to distinguish heavy from good. Soulja Boy has had a number of famous rappers come out and say that he is absolutely terrible because they felt his music insulted what they do.

So in essence if you form an opinion make sure you have a very good idea of what you are talking about because I can name a number of rap artists (not using the term loosely here) who are far more talented then Drowning Pool. If you think rapping takes no talent you need to open your mind. That is EXACTLY the same thing as people saying the guttural screams in metal take no talent.
 

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I can't believe you mention 'metal' and 'Drowning pool' in the same sentence. You obviously haven't listened to very much metal. I'm struggling to think of any band that promotes war directly...shit, most bands are anti-war.
 

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Madcat75 said:
first off watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djk7UWi_dvU&feature=player_embedded

Then you should check out Drowning Pool who have made a song called "Soldiers" in support of all troops no matter the nationality fighing in Afghanistan and Iraq, they have also done....

http://thisisforthesoldiers.org/

They are only 1 of a number of Heavy Metal bands who are supporting our troops by doing USO shows, this is why I will always listen to Metal and not that bunch of self absorbed, egotistical, waste of space, no talent, piece of cowardly shit rap ( and I use the term VERY loosely) "artists"
And Soulja Boy is only 1 no-talent rapper who said one stupid thing about the military. It's not hard to find rappers who "support the troops," since praising the military is easy and empty. In fact, almost nobody is going to speak against them.

Really, so what? Soulja Boy was garbage before and he's garbage now, and it has nothing to do with his thoughts on the military. He's not all rappers. He's not even a good example.