Conflicting feelings towards Justice League

[Natemans]

Okay, I'll be up front: I've not been much of a fan of the DCEU. With the exception of Wonder Woman which was flawed, but pretty good imo, the rest of this film series has left me very lukewarm, empty and downright insulted in some cases.

Now with Justice League, I'm trying. I'm trying really hard to get invested with this movie. If you told me years ago that the Justice League, one of the best superhero teams in comics, is coming out with a movie and I am not very interested, I would have called you nuts or shrug it off. Sadly based on my thoughts of the quality of the previous films besides WW, the quality has been incredibly mediocre at best and awful at worst. I hope I'm wrong and it does turn out good, but from what I've seen, I'm very cautious. What are your thoughts?

 

[PsychedelicDiamond]

I lost my good will for it when they announced that Joss Whedon would take over as the director. I was never particulary won over by the premise in the first place "evil aliens invade, super heros have to fend them off" seemed like a far cry from the more character driven, more political and overall more interesting story of BvS but at least I held out hope that Snyder and Terrio would manage to turn it into something unique and subversive like they did with BvS.

With Whedon at the helm I'm assuming it's just gonna be another Avengers, including corny jokes, bland visuals, casual sexism, a predictable plot and a boring antagonist. Everything I've seen of it so far seems to confirm that. I might check it out at some point but I'm sure as hell not gonna see it in theaters.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

I'm really thinking that best case scenario is that Justice League can only at best be OK. The fact that BvS happened and there were probably loads of people (executives) trying to fix Justice League even if it didn't need fixing. BvS is really so bad that it will undoubtedly have negative effect on any movie that has to continue on from that continuity; hell, even Wonder Woman couldn't completely avoid that and it took place basically a century before BvS. Then, of course, directors have changed due to a tragedy in Synder's family, so that's only going to make things worse. The only real fix to the DCEU would really just be starting over at this point as BvS is a black hole of suckage.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

The best Justice League can hope to be is simply not the final nail in the coffin of the DCEU. Wonder Woman was the only watchable movie so far. And its increasingly likely its the odd duck out.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

I lost my good will for it when they announced that Joss Whedon would take over as the director. I was never particulary won over by the premise in the first place "evil aliens invade, super heros have to fend them off" seemed like a far cry from the more character driven, more political and overall more interesting story of BvS but at least I held out hope that Snyder and Terrio would manage to turn it into something unique and subversive like they did with BvS.

With Whedon at the helm I'm assuming it's just gonna be another Avengers, including corny jokes, bland visuals, casual sexism, a predictable plot and a boring antagonist. Everything I've seen of it so far seems to confirm that. I might check it out at some point but I'm sure as hell not gonna see it in theaters.

BvS had an interesting story? What alternate universe version of the film did you watch?

 

[Saelune]

Im looking forward to watching a travesty.

But I kinda liked Suicide Squad, even if Leto Joker was the worst. But then I find that movie like, bad funny. One guy almost literally just is like "also this guy who will die". They do all this build up for everyone then after all that this guy drives up in a car and added to the team just to die.

So hey, if the Wonder Twins pop up last second to die or something, 10/10.

 

[hermes]

I am likely going to see it but I have very little hope is going to be more than a Frankenstein of a movie. Unlike what others have said, I think replacing Snyder with Whedon (tragedy aside) is one of the best things that could have happened to the movie, his style was ill-suited for the material and he had two attempts at it already to prove it. But I think the move was too little too late. Unless they were willing to do massive reshoots, and just leave him alone (fat chance given WB infamous levels of executive meddling), this movie will have more tones whiplash than Suicide Squad.

 

[Hawki]

Eh...I hope it's good?

The DCEU's in a weird point for me. Man of Steel was slightly above average, but marred by editing and pacing issues. Batman v Superman was a mess - a beautiful looking, very ambitious mess, but still a mess. Suicide Squad was also a bit of a mess, but still a very enjoyable mess. Wonder Woman is the best of the bunch, if still average, but it's easily the 'safest' film in the bunch as well. Basically, if we want to learn lessons from the DCEU, it's that safe seems to work (WW), and ambition doesn't (BvS). So it remains to be seen where Justice League falls into. I have a feeling that if it works for general audiences, the DCEU will just retool itself to be a new MCU, and if that happens...I don't know if I could take that.

Thing is, awhile back, I was rooting for the DCEU to succeed because I wanted an alternative to the MCU. That said, while the MCU is still incredibly formulaic, it's admittedly a formula that works.

 

[Kyrian007]

I really can't say. I have no expectations. Its DCEU, they've already earned 3 strikes. I'm already in the "won't waste money on it" category with the franchise. I want it to be good, as far as DC is concerned I like the setting and the characters and I want to see something good done with the movie versions. But only a reboot will bring me back to the theaters to see it. I'm not conflicted, I just don't care anymore. I won't see it unless the reviews are stellar, it is a reboot, or if it shows up on a service I can stream it on, or if I can borrow it from a friend.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I have a gruff respect towards DC for not devolving into the same basic movie like Marvel had. I'll go into it carefully optimistic, the only fear of mine is it would be boring.

They've only had like....3 movies. How exactly do we know they haven't fallen into a cycle yet?

4: Man of Steel, BvS, Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman.
In any case it takes three of anything to form a pattern.

 

[Natemans]

I lost my good will for it when they announced that Joss Whedon would take over as the director. I was never particulary won over by the premise in the first place "evil aliens invade, super heros have to fend them off" seemed like a far cry from the more character driven, more political and overall more interesting story of BvS but at least I held out hope that Snyder and Terrio would manage to turn it into something unique and subversive like they did with BvS.

With Whedon at the helm I'm assuming it's just gonna be another Avengers, including corny jokes, bland visuals, casual sexism, a predictable plot and a boring antagonist. Everything I've seen of it so far seems to confirm that. I might check it out at some point but I'm sure as hell not gonna see it in theaters.

Personally I hated Man of Steel and Batman v Superman so when I saw the trailer for JL before Whedon came on board, it just looked like the same problems I had with those films.