Squarez said:
As an Englishman, it can be sometimes hard to wrap my head around the psyche of many Americans particularly the type who spends their days arguing on the internets about freedom and patriotism, also known as conservatives.
Now, in recent days there has been much talk of Obama introducing state healthcare, in a similar vein to that of the NHS (Britain's health service), now I can understand why some conservative might disagree with that seeing as it's (in their words) "socialism", but I do not understand the attacks on Britain's health service, calling it "evil" and "Orwellian". I just don't understand why.
True, the NHS isn't the best health service in the world, but if you do not want it, the option exists to to pay shitloads of money for private care. Surely such a system could work just fine in America, the rich/conservative just won't use it and the poor/people who don't want to pay for a service that does it's job just fine.
To me it just seems like an attempt to criticize Obama even more, by calling him socialist, after all (as someone on this very forum said), it's easier to make the other guy look like Hitler, than to make yourself look like Jesus.
So my question to you conservatives out there is.
Why do you not want a free health service when the option for private care will still exist?
I would be very, very upset if somebody called me a conservative, but I also do not want Obama's or any health care plan. First, it empowers the state, which I consider a criminal enterprise and would much rather abolish. Second, all this talk about 'giving everybody health care' is hogwash. It's a coerced monopoly that is controlled directly by the aforementioned criminal organization. It's bad for all the same reasons so-called 'private' monopolies are bad. People do not control the government- special interests, and particularly wealthy businessmen do. This is an inescapable feature of 'the state'. Ever hear of a 'lobbyist'?
When the government controls healthcare, big-business and big-banking controls health care. They decide what you pay for it (taxes) and they decide what you get. I do not expect big-businessmen to offer better services at lower prices. All reason and history indicates the opposite.
Furthermore, you and I are legally restricted on pain of death from offering or seeking out better alternatives. And, what you call 'private care' is also heavily cartelized and therefore suffers the same incentival absurdities. And, the use of taxation (theft) to force people to pay for things they may not otherwise have done results in less need to spend further money on health care (or whatever) and less money to pay with. The result, of course, is a market that offers less for more money.
That said, two big qualifiers- first, most conservatives oppose it for reasons of culture and politics (that is, conquest). They likely would not agree with most of what I just said. Second, as far as I can tell, nobody really knows what Obama's health care plan is.
The Republican gang is trying to pillage the Democratic gang and vice verse, so name-calling is bound to ensue. If you want to give the people health care, start by taking it back from the bankers and their government cronies.
