Consoles are usually BETTER for getting people into gaming.

[Kinokohatake]

I prefer console to pc for two reasons.

1. Any pc I buy now will need to be upgraded within the next year to continue running the newest games. As a non tech guy, I have no idea how to do that. I suck with specs and finding all this information that throwing a game in my 360 is easier than memorizing what my computer has, can do, can't do, and will fry out over. Not worth the hassle.

2. Mouse and keyboard games are difficult. I've been console gaming so long I have no issue with the controller.

OT though, I really think consoles are easier to get someone into. We can both look at my tv from across the room but for a pc game, we would have to huddle together like we are conserving warmth and stare at a tiny screen.

 

[sharpsheppard]

Because a controller with a couple of clearly defined, coloured and always useful buttons is more complicated with a keyboard with dozens of similar looking and feeling buttons that could have any kind of function? Riiiight...

YES. Even little kids know how to type on a keyboard so they KNOW where all the buttons are. Same for the mouse, you know how to control it so it's simple to get into aiming and controlling. A controller with its analog sticks and shoulder buttons is a completely different concept.

Look, just try it in real life with someone, all right. Give some non-gamer a keyboard&mouse game and then give them a controller which they've never used. You'll see.

yes because people are gonna remeber which of the 105 buttons of a keyboard do somthing (looked that up didn't think there where that many) opose to the 11 on a xbox controller not counting the dpad or the mothion ones

 

[Ushiromiya Battler]

Snippety snip

4 out of 3 people blindly believe in statistics...
Think about that one for a bit

 

[sharpsheppard]

Technologically PC will always be better than consoles. Theirs no discussion or buts to it.
Now people preferring console gaming than PC is just opinions and liking.

That's why all Console VS PC flame-wars are just kids being idiots kids.

lol least mature agument ever pc are better and anything else is an opinion but pc being better is a fact wow did you read what you wrote everthing being writen is an opinion a fact is somthing that can be proven you can't prove one is better than the other because they each have there own goods and bad and everyone is gonna see the good and the bad in their own way.

 

[Ushiromiya Battler]

Snippety snip

4 out of 3 people blindly believe in statistics...
Think about that one for a bit

Okay, i've thought about it... now what? They're a worldwide market research firm focused on gaming that is actually selling their data to the game industry for money (in the range of about 1000$ per report up to 20.000? for a years subscription). They only have a few "free snippets" on their site. If their data was inaccurate or false by a wide margin they'd be out of business by now: http://www.newzoo.com/ENG/1494-About_Newzoo.html

Newzoo is an international full service market research and consulting firm completely focused on the games industry. We aim to provide the best independent market data across all game platforms and business models as well as assist companies in finding the best international business partners. Our combination of activities gives us a deep understanding of the games industry and ensures we are always ahead of traditional market research companies.
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They're not some guy with a blog making charts and I'd rather believe them than some random forum-goer.

I never said you should believe a random forum-goer, but statistics will never be accurate enough, because there is so damn much that you will have to put in to consideration.
Always take statistics with a pinch of salt.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Now Mass Effect? Prototype? Crackdown? Saints Row 2? Just Cause 2? they all provide quick, explosive, and instant spectacle

Funnily enough, I own 4 of those titles on PC... and only 1 of them is a shitty port (the others are quite good ports). Changing platform doesn't lower their appeal at all. Hell, my nephews went out and bought Mass Effect, Saints Row 2 and Just Cause 2 for their 360 after having tried them out on my PC.

When introducing someone to gaming, platform is irrelevent. It's the games that matter and its finding titles that engage them and fire up their imagination that counts.

Platform only starts being relevent when erstwhile newbie is looking to get some gaming hardware of their own and that's when it's time to start weighing all the pros and cons and blah blah blah. For most non-gamers I know, if they were to suddenly develope a desire to get into gaming, then yeah, I'd recommend a console for them. Why? Simply because I'm the schmuck they call up whenever they have computer hassles as it is and I don't see any percentage in increasing the chances they'll run into problems they need my help with. Also, they're not the kind of people who would value the customisation and control a PC offers over the convenience of a console.

Also, as learned by my nephews, there are people like my step-da who'll happily watch a good game but they treat it like watching a movie. They've no interest in games as an interactive medium but will sit back and enjoy them as passive entertainment... No, Grandpa doesn't want to have a try, he wants you to stop pissing about so he can see what happens next.

 

[VincentX3]

Technologically PC will always be better than consoles. Theirs no discussion or buts to it.
Now people preferring console gaming than PC is just opinions and liking.

That's why all Console VS PC flame-wars are just kids being idiots kids.

lol least mature agument ever pc are better and anything else is an opinion but pc being better is a fact wow did you read what you wrote everthing being writen is an opinion a fact is somthing that can be proven you can't prove one is better than the other because they each have there own goods and bad and everyone is gonna see the good and the bad in their own way.

1- Starting a sentence with LOL is a really good way to start
2- Look up the definition of Technologically in the dictionary
3- I Read what I wrote, did you? I can't tell with all your giant paragraph and spelling errors

Lastly, I'm not trying to prove nothing. I already said it was based on opinions.

So before trying to correct me or even quote, at least try to maintain an intelligent discussion and TRY not to start a sentence with lol.

 

[hawkeye52]

This is probably because all the games which market cheap thrills and instant rewards moved over the console market

Hello, person who's never heard of Farmville.

Of course consoles are better to introduce people into gaming. It's way, WAY, WAY more simpler to plug in a console, hit the open tray button, insert disc and close tray and connect the controller, rather than...I don't want to go through a PC process. And there's also no guarantee the game may run on your computer in the first place.

Yes, the troublesome PC process of clicking buy, downloading the game, clicking install and then playing the game.

And then having the game crash as you don't have the right graphics card, then having the graphics card reject your Sound card, then having your sound card not work with your OS, then having to get a new version of flash, then finding it causes major problems with your browser, then finding out the thing claiming to be a download for your sound card was a virus, then finding out your antivirus software is incompatible with both your sound drivers and your video programs......

wow just wow. you honestly managed to list up the most unlikely set of circumstances ever. If this had ever happened to your comp then i just pity you because it not only means that you are rather crap at finding new parts for your comp but also means that you are inept at finding drivers if you managed to DL a virus. Also most if not all PC games will run on an average system that you can just buy from dell (thats a horrible idea in itself just because they are overpriced) and it will be a good few years before you even need to think of getting any new parts and that just if you want to make everything look pretty as you could just run low graphics.

Because as we all know, a first time gamer will have clairvoyant knowledge of every single thing a game will need to run on their PC.

This happened to me when I was trying to play a game from fucking 2005 on my September of 2010 computer.

And I fail to see how the facts of how shameless and insubstantial PC gaming is somehow means you get to play no true scotsman on me. Farmville exists exclusively on PC and is the most insubstantial game ever created. Claiming any sort of substance for PC gaming is rendered bullshit.

One just buy a preset comp next time because it will save you a lot of hassle and won't have these problems and if it does who the hell are you buying from also the retroing back on comps can be a problem but that game should have been fine and two. You pulled up one game which i don't even consider to be a game more an exercise in pointlessness and finger movements.

Also if you try to even compare any of the games for the pc from the RTS genre and RPG genre apart from a select few like halo wars which came from a game on the console to most console games then you will an absolute load more substance there and more then enough to make up for farmville (if it was a game).

Just take a look at the games like the NWN series or the Europa Universalis series or actually anything from paradox. Also notice how many games popular games on the console are scorned by the PC community for being rehashes of old games i.e. the halo series/ the cod series.

there are some truly good games there like uncharted and even GOW can be fun but i would never consider those truly great games. The last truly great game that i played on the console was lost oddyssey and that was a JRPG from square enix that wasn't one of the crappy final fantasy's they are trying to spam off.