I did, indeed. I was quoting that line for weeks. Uh...Disregard that story I told about Dave Chappelle and Paul Mooney >_>Eldarion said:
Constantly evolving language.
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Oh, don't worry. I already do. I'll admit, sometimes you find a rare gem in terms of pics, but the comments that often come with those pics make my brain swell.hottsaucekid said:
Same goes for Encyclopedia Dramatica.
If you think about it, though, isn't changing into a more compact, more efficient form also "evolution"? No one ever said that the species that survives has to be enjoyable.darthzew said:
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Ninja'd in a reply to my quoted post. Hm.Pyode said:
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I find the current use of language odd even when I go along with it.
For example: "What a beast!" or "Dude, he's such a monster!" which both mean that someone is awesome. I'm not even sure when people decided that being a beast or monster was a good thing, and it's pretty weird when you think about it, but I'll still use the word "beast" to describe cool things because it's what I hear every day. Everyone I know also says things like, "Aw, you fail," or "That wins," and I find it perfectly normal.
Personally, I dislike it when people say something bad is "gay" and never use the term in that sense. It just doesn't sit right with me. And as far as the word "sick" goes, no one says that to mean good anymore, at least not around here. I mean, you might hear it occasionally, but it's pretty weird when you do and certainly not a part of I or my friends' vocabularies when used in that sense.
For example: "What a beast!" or "Dude, he's such a monster!" which both mean that someone is awesome. I'm not even sure when people decided that being a beast or monster was a good thing, and it's pretty weird when you think about it, but I'll still use the word "beast" to describe cool things because it's what I hear every day. Everyone I know also says things like, "Aw, you fail," or "That wins," and I find it perfectly normal.
Personally, I dislike it when people say something bad is "gay" and never use the term in that sense. It just doesn't sit right with me. And as far as the word "sick" goes, no one says that to mean good anymore, at least not around here. I mean, you might hear it occasionally, but it's pretty weird when you do and certainly not a part of I or my friends' vocabularies when used in that sense.
I hate when people assume that when I say the word 'gay' to describe something that's bad, I don't know what it means. I know full well that gay means homosexual, I'm just used to using the word. People shouldn't be offended by it.
It's because when people use "gay" to mean "bad", it's often their purpose to use "homosexual" to mean "bad". They're not using it as a different meaning, like how "prize" can mean "award" but also "compliment", what they're doing is saying "this game is homosexual" and hoping you'll understand that "homosexual" is supposed to be bad.
This thread is the shit.
I am not English native speaker, so I actually thought that being the shit means being shit. Which it doesn't, it seems.
What actually also struck me about the English language is how often you say "love you", like even to parents. And that you don't expect answers, if you ask "How are you?". Turned out that "How are you?" means "Hello".
In German you would only say "Ich liebe dich" to your girl/boyfriend, and even then only if it's really serious. And people will actually tell you how they feel if you ask them "Wie geht es dir?"
And the word "brouhaha" is stuck in my mind for some reason. You have a word with "haha" in it.
I am not English native speaker, so I actually thought that being the shit means being shit. Which it doesn't, it seems.
What actually also struck me about the English language is how often you say "love you", like even to parents. And that you don't expect answers, if you ask "How are you?". Turned out that "How are you?" means "Hello".
In German you would only say "Ich liebe dich" to your girl/boyfriend, and even then only if it's really serious. And people will actually tell you how they feel if you ask them "Wie geht es dir?"
And the word "brouhaha" is stuck in my mind for some reason. You have a word with "haha" in it.
Evolution implies selection, which means that some things will stick around for a long period of time, and others will not.darthzew said:
Simply put, one cannot look at the past 5 years at words that is used solely by adolescents and young adults and look at what amounts to youthful slang and call it the "devolution" of the english language. One needs evidence that such language has the ability to last a couple generations before one can even start to make such claims.
Are we going to be using the word 'sick' (as meaning good) fifty years from now? Probably not. Those who USE the word 'sick' aren't likely to be using it fifty years from now, or even fifty months from now.
That which is more useful becomes more used. Maybe spelling it 'thru' rather than 'through' is 'dumber' but actually, it's more -useful- to spell it that way. More readable. These are not bad things, and to suggest otherwise is elitist posturing, as tho language is supposed to be the province of some erudite society of high thinkers, and not 'how humanity communicates at all levels.'
It really is just a form of 'we're getting dumber' elitist bullshit that people use when they get nostalgic for better times, where selective memory can blot out the fact we've always been this dumb, while ignoring the fact that we're making such statements on technology that the mere use of often confounds 'intelligent' members of previous generations.
I have to pick my little sister up on saying "gay" meaning rubbish or bad all the time. It really annoys me, but it's not a sign of homophobia or hatefulness or even disrespect, it's just common vocabulary and so many of them say it without even referencing or having any meaning towards homosexuality.
I remember hearing a funny conversation with my little sister and her friend:
friend: "Jack is gay!"
sister: "gay is in gay or gay like gay gay?"
friend: "no i mean like gay gay like full on gay"
sister: "so like homosexual?"
friend: "Yeah! he came out to me yesterday".
I remember hearing a funny conversation with my little sister and her friend:
friend: "Jack is gay!"
sister: "gay is in gay or gay like gay gay?"
friend: "no i mean like gay gay like full on gay"
sister: "so like homosexual?"
friend: "Yeah! he came out to me yesterday".
Alright, let's not refer to just the last five years then. Looking specifically at English, the language has changed so much in the last five-hundred years.DracoSuave said:
Both the syntax and diction have gotten simpler.
Some would say simple is better, but, again, as a writer, this sucks. We have to write simpler or people are instantly turned off. Comprehension is going down the toilet as well. People need stuff like Sparknotes just to understand works of literature from the last century and you can just forget Shakespeare.
A simple word like "sick" or even "gay" may seem like a small thing, and it is, but language is deteriorating in complexity. There's no way around that.
The connotation of a word that really drives me nuts (and partially it's due to having Jewish ancestors I'm sure) is that "Jew" can mean any number of bad things dealing with usury, product quality, how "bad" of a deal something was, ect.
Here's an example, "Yea, I totally got jewed on that video game" means "I really got a bad deal/ripped off on that video game".
I'm no historian, but I think people should realize this.
When a race of people is used as slaves c 2500 bc, then may have either been kicked out or voluntarily left c. 2300 bc, wandered around dying in the Sinai Peninsula for quite some time, finally finding a home in the Lavent, is constantly trying to protect their homeland once in the Levant, is conquered by Babylon, Assyria, c 800 bc 10 of your 12 tribes are executed by Assyrians, next your cities are conquered by the Persians, then Alexander, then by the Romans via Pompey c 60 bc, then you are evicted from your homeland by the Romans c 100 bc,then you wander around Europe, the Near East, and Russia for 2000 years being the victims of pogroms, pillaging, rape, etc, then you're subject to one of the worst persecutions in human history via the Hallocaust in the late 1930's and the 1940's,then you're finally given your original home back by the British, then all the Arab world beleaguers your only home because logic forbid the Arab world isn't given direct rule over a tiny parcel of land when they already have a large portion of the Middle East, and your nation that has to fight several wars for it's very survival, then.....
Maybe you can understand why people of the Jewish faith tend to maybe be a little bit stingy and want to be sure they will retain what they have in life.
Here's an example, "Yea, I totally got jewed on that video game" means "I really got a bad deal/ripped off on that video game".
I'm no historian, but I think people should realize this.
When a race of people is used as slaves c 2500 bc, then may have either been kicked out or voluntarily left c. 2300 bc, wandered around dying in the Sinai Peninsula for quite some time, finally finding a home in the Lavent, is constantly trying to protect their homeland once in the Levant, is conquered by Babylon, Assyria, c 800 bc 10 of your 12 tribes are executed by Assyrians, next your cities are conquered by the Persians, then Alexander, then by the Romans via Pompey c 60 bc, then you are evicted from your homeland by the Romans c 100 bc,then you wander around Europe, the Near East, and Russia for 2000 years being the victims of pogroms, pillaging, rape, etc, then you're subject to one of the worst persecutions in human history via the Hallocaust in the late 1930's and the 1940's,then you're finally given your original home back by the British, then all the Arab world beleaguers your only home because logic forbid the Arab world isn't given direct rule over a tiny parcel of land when they already have a large portion of the Middle East, and your nation that has to fight several wars for it's very survival, then.....
Maybe you can understand why people of the Jewish faith tend to maybe be a little bit stingy and want to be sure they will retain what they have in life.