Continuity Errors Star War

[DutchAssassin8]

I have often wondered if the internet could band together as one to find all the errors in the Star Wars mythos.

Seeing how SW is one of the most changed continuities ever and the release of several games, movies, tv-shows and an entire prequal-trilogy are all very controversial amongst fans of the original movies i wanted to see how much we can collect.

A few rules:
1 the original trilogy ( A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and The Return Of The Jedi for you sad, sad people out there who dont know them) are absolute. Lets say that they do not contain errors and that the rest of the SW continuity should be judged by this standard
2 Same for KOTOR 1 and 2, unless they conflict with original trilogy
3 CAN BE ANYTHING ELSE!!!! SWTOR, Clone Wars, The Clone Wars, The Clone Wars Movie, Force Unleashed, Prequal Saga, books, comics, Lego, towels, YOU NAME IT!!!
4 Tell what your error is and how it is different from the standard mentioned in rule 1&2

 

[DutchAssassin8]

You know what: Don't do Lego or the list will be too long

 

[CommanderL]

in the starwars book Nights of coursacnt jax pavan's master dies in the first chapter in a tv show that comes later jax pavan's master dies on another planet way eariler then he did before

 

[JaceArveduin]

The Clone War's Cartoon and their pacifistic Mandos. Not sure about 2, but Boba wasn't a pacifist!

or maybe I'm just a big fan of the Republic Commando books...

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

But... there /are/ continuity errors in the OT. Here's one from IMDB:

"In the scene where C-3PO and R2-D2 take over the control room, three guns are leaning against the little window that overlooks the hanger. But in a few different shots, there are four guns."

What's interesting is I must have seen that movie literally hundreds of times, and I've never noticed that little goof.

 

[Trek1701a]

No continuity errors in the original trilogy... Between physical and SFX errors, there are also dialogue errors.

For example, I'll just name one which is at the beginning of 'New Hope'. At the beginning the Corvette get's attacked by the Destroyer, C3-PO says to R2 "There will be no escape for the Princess this time." Yet when Luke triggers the recording while cleaning R2, he mentions he doesn't know her, "someone of importance, I believe".

Goto www.moviemistakes.com and search for the movies.

 

[DutchAssassin8]

Ok its true that in the original trilogy there were some errors, so fire away SW-fans. Open season on OT too.

The point is was trying to research was that continuity has been bent and broken in order to "sell-out" if you will, so that Lucas can make more media with the SW brand on it

 

[Nimzabaat]

No continuity errors in the original trilogy... Between physical and SFX errors, there are also dialogue errors.

For example, I'll just name one which is at the beginning of 'New Hope'. At the beginning the Corvette get's attacked by the Destroyer, C3-PO says to R2 "There will be no escape for the Princess this time." Yet when Luke triggers the recording while cleaning R2, he mentions he doesn't know her, "someone of importance, I believe".

Goto www.moviemistakes.com and search for the movies.

That's a lie, not an error. C3-PO isn't going to talk to some hick about the princess and the rebellion.

OT:

1. Leia discussing her mother in ROTJ except that their mom died in childbirth...
2. Obi-Wan talking about meeting Anikan when he was a young fighter pilot in the Clone Wars. Except that Anikan was never just a fighter pilot.
I could go on (meaning: If I wanted to take the time to think of more I would, but I don't)

 

[RJ 17]

Edit: Removing this one so people will stop calling me on it. Look a few posts down for my admission of wrongness.

The other big one that I'm sure has already been mentioned but I'm too lazy to check: the nature of The Force.

This one pissed off quite a few people. In the original trilogy, Obi describes the Force as a mystical energy that fills all living things in the galaxy. And like all energy, with the proper efforts it can be manipulated. Then we get to the new trilogy and it becomes "Well your power with the Force is determined by how much bacteria or something you have in your blood. All living things in the galaxy are filled with little symbiotes that give the people magical powers if there's enough of them."

I mean I get it. They wanted there to be some specific way to say "Holy shit, this little boy is a prodigy!" Something that could be measured. But you mean to tell me they couldn't just come up with some space-science mumbo-jumbo to say "I've got a little doo-hicky here that measures the amount of force energy your body radiates while at rest. From this we can get a rough estimation of how strong you'd be if you were to apply yourself" which could then lead to "Holy shit, this little boy is a prodigy!"

Oh, and one more thanks to Robot Chicken:

As Padme or whatever is laying there dying after giving birth to the children...Dr. Ball, MD comes in "SHE'S LOST THE WILL TO LIVE?! What did you get your PhD's in, POETRY?! You sorry bunch of hippies! God forbid we use the MILLIONS of dollars worth of high-tech medical equipment around here to keep her alive. Nooooo, let's just drop on our knees and PRAY she gets better! WE DON'T HAVE KNEES YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!!!"

Seriously, god forbid we have Vader accidently chop her in half and blame Obi for it or something. No, she has to die of "a broken heart" though there was nothing medially wrong with her (if I remember correctly). Fucking. Lame.

 

[funksobeefy]

They do deal with the massive Imperial fleet in the later books. Many, many times in fact.

 

[twistedmic]

One of my favorite errors was brought up by Robot Chicken:

Sure, the Rebels blow up the Death Star and kill the Emperor at the end of Jedi......buuuuuuut doesn't the Empire still have a MASSIVE fleet? Was there no chain of command to put someone new in charge to wipe out the Rebels which are now all conveniently in the same spot?

That one can be chalked up to loss of morale. The Empire just saw their unstoppable doomsday weapon (ver 2.0) blown up, with their leader and top generals on board, and saw their flagship (the Executor) destroyed along with the Endor base. Seeing all of that go down in the space of a few minutes to an hour (possibly a bit longer) could be enough to crush in will to fight.

 

[twistedmic]

OT:

1. Leia discussing her mother in ROTJ except that their mom died in childbirth...
2. Obi-Wan talking about meeting Anikan when he was a young fighter pilot in the Clone Wars. Except that Anikan was never just a fighter pilot.
I could go on (meaning: If I wanted to take the time to think of more I would, but I don't)

Those shouldn't really count against the original trilogy since the errors were made in the later prequels, where Lucas had made changes to the story.

Also, it can be argued that the mother that Leia was talking about was her adopted mother, not her birth mother. And that Obi-Wan was lying about Anakin Skywalker being a Jedi (fallen or otherwise).

 

[RJ 17]

One of my favorite errors was brought up by Robot Chicken:

Sure, the Rebels blow up the Death Star and kill the Emperor at the end of Jedi......buuuuuuut doesn't the Empire still have a MASSIVE fleet? Was there no chain of command to put someone new in charge to wipe out the Rebels which are now all conveniently in the same spot?

That one can be chalked up to loss of morale. The Empire just saw their unstoppable doomsday weapon (ver 2.0) blown up, with their leader and top generals on board, and saw their flagship (the Executor) destroyed along with the Endor base. Seeing all of that go down in the space of a few minutes to an hour (possibly a bit longer) could be enough to crush in will to fight.

Even though the rebel fleet was itself absolutely ravaged during the battle and likely wouldn't last very long against the remainder of the Empire's fleet? I think it could just as easily be argued that the remainder of the Empire would want to crush the Rebels even more after seeing all that happen. A line from the Robot Chicken sketch I brought up is:

"What do you mean we've lost? They blew up the Death Star before and we kept fighting!"
"Yyyyyeeeeeah...but this time they blew up the Death Star AND killed the Emperor. So they won."

I dunno, just doesn't make sense to me that the remants of the Imperial Fleet didn't swoop in and wipe the rebels out after the Death Star was destroyed.

 

[Bobic]

Well, working on the assumption that the Original Trilogy is errorless then we have the idea that Jedi Training can be completed in a couple of days (or, at least, a very small amount of time). In the prequel trilogy however, training has to be conducted over years throughout childhood.

Also, Jedi's in every other piece of Star Wars media aside from the original trilogy, seem way more powerful.

Also, Midichlorines

Also, not a continuity error, just a ridiculously stupid thing that I consider an error, and will complain about here because there's nothing you can do to stop me. But, apparently, according to some source on the internet I've forgotten, in the 'extended universe' Boba Fett apparently doesn't die in the sarlacc pit, he flies out and goes on space adventures. Hell, even Robot Chicken didn't go that far. This is maddening, this is the kind of fanfiction I expect from the ass end of the internet. It's just lazily pandering to one of the most ridiculous sub-fandoms ever(seriously, Boba Fett has like 2 lines, and get's killed slapstick style by a blind guy, he doesn't deserve a fandom).

 

[Something Amyss]

"What do you mean we've lost? They blew up the Death Star before and we kept fighting!"
"Yyyyyeeeeeah...but this time they blew up the Death Star AND killed the Emperor. So they won."

The Empire DID keep fighting. But you consider the Battle of Yavin (the reference point of "before" in this joke), they had time to go back for an awards ceremony before they bugged out. Doesn't sound inconsistent.

i mean, it's funny if you don't look at it, but come on.

Also, seriously, mobilising a military that large when it's based on a philosophy of absolute obedience?

 

[Something Amyss]

Also, not a continuity error, just a ridiculously stupid thing that I consider an error, and will complain about here because there's nothing you can do to stop me. But, apparently, according to some source on the internet I've forgotten, in the 'extended universe' Boba Fett apparently doesn't die in the sarlacc pit, he flies out and goes on space adventures. Hell, even Robot Chicken didn't go that far. This is maddening, this is the kind of fanfiction I expect from the ass end of the internet. It's just lazily pandering to one of the most ridiculous sub-fandoms ever(seriously, Boba Fett has like 2 lines, and get's killed slapstick style by a blind guy, he doesn't deserve a fandom).

While I don't like Boba Fett, it makes sense that a guy in armour could potentially survive a beast that takes centuries to digest its meals.

 

[Driekan]

One of my favorite errors was brought up by Robot Chicken:

Sure, the Rebels blow up the Death Star and kill the Emperor at the end of Jedi......buuuuuuut doesn't the Empire still have a MASSIVE fleet? Was there no chain of command to put someone new in charge to wipe out the Rebels which are now all conveniently in the same spot?

That one can be chalked up to loss of morale. The Empire just saw their unstoppable doomsday weapon (ver 2.0) blown up, with their leader and top generals on board, and saw their flagship (the Executor) destroyed along with the Endor base. Seeing all of that go down in the space of a few minutes to an hour (possibly a bit longer) could be enough to crush in will to fight.

Even though the rebel fleet was itself absolutely ravaged during the battle and likely wouldn't last very long against the remainder of the Empire's fleet? I think it could just as easily be argued that the remainder of the Empire would want to crush the Rebels even more after seeing all that happen. A line from the Robot Chicken sketch I brought up is:

"What do you mean we've lost? They blew up the Death Star before and we kept fighting!"
"Yyyyyeeeeeah...but this time they blew up the Death Star AND killed the Emperor. So they won."

I dunno, just doesn't make sense to me that the remants of the Imperial Fleet didn't swoop in and wipe the rebels out after the Death Star was destroyed.

I remember one of the Thrawn novels explained this (Or retconned it, so it made sense).

Apparently Palpatine kept a very tight force-influence mental leash on that entire force. Essentially, he was wielding the entire fleet as an extended body, with him as the brain in the middle. When he died and that influence died away, all those people were suddenly free to think for themselves completely for the first time in... God knows how long.

So they were instantly disorganized, bewildered and shocked. Limbs flailing after the brain just got a bullet through it.

It actually makes more sense than the explanation for the other problem in that scene: "The Death Star's destruction causes a short-lived blackhole to come into existence which sucks all the debris of the Death Star in, thus preventing the Endor Holocaust. It conveniently ceases to exist the next second, and sends no deadly burst of radiation."

 

[Racecarlock]

I'm still trying to figure out how the hell the empire took over the galaxy when their tie fighters have no shield generators and are made of aluminum. The rebels main fighter has four laser cannons, a droid, an optional ion cannon,two proton torpedo launchers, and a shield generators. Tie fighters have two solar panels and two blasters. Not even shields. And their stormtroopers wear a steel and plastic hybrid armor that makes it hard to move and doesn't protect against rocks and sticks, let alone blasters. They'd be better equipped in underwear and headsets. The emperor must have had a hell of alot of leftover clones and some really good recruiters. Either that, or all the rest of the galaxy's warriors were made of cake and flowers.

 

[RJ 17]

"What do you mean we've lost? They blew up the Death Star before and we kept fighting!"
"Yyyyyeeeeeah...but this time they blew up the Death Star AND killed the Emperor. So they won."

The Empire DID keep fighting. But you consider the Battle of Yavin (the reference point of "before" in this joke), they had time to go back for an awards ceremony before they bugged out. Doesn't sound inconsistent.

i mean, it's funny if you don't look at it, but come on.

Also, seriously, mobilising a military that large when it's based on a philosophy of absolute obedience?

Yeah, can't say that I've read any of the books so I was just going off of what I saw in the movie. If the Empire is still around and chasing after those meddling rebels in the books, then yeah, my argument falls flat so I won't keep it up.

 

[Driekan]

I'm still trying to figure out how the hell the empire took over the galaxy when their tie fighters have no shield generators and are made of aluminum. The rebels main fighter has four laser cannons, a droid, an optional ion cannon,two proton torpedo launchers, and a shield generators. Tie fighters have two solar panels and two blasters. Not even shields. And their stormtroopers wear a steel and plastic hybrid armor that makes it hard to move and doesn't protect against rocks and sticks, let alone blasters. They'd be better equipped in underwear and headsets. The emperor must have had a hell of alot of leftover clones and some really good recruiters. Either that, or all the rest of the galaxy's warriors were made of cake and flowers.

The Tie Fighter was a fast, agile ship that - when piloted well - could do some surprisingly serious damage. They were also dirt-cheap, and the Empire was in the position to field them in mind-boggling numbers. They are easy to underestimate because in the movie we are usually following the POV of people who are, within the fiction, some of the best fighters and shooters in the galaxy - it should be no surprise that they kick massive ass.

Besides, the empire didn't conquer the galaxy. It inherited the galaxy from the Republic which preceded it... And apparently that republic had no standing army whatsoever, which possibly makes even less sense.