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Thaluikhain

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If everyone who doesn't like Abbott leaves the country, he'll get voted back in :(
 

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I see the pictures of Scotland posted some way above and I raise you one rural Southern England:




These three photos are all from the county I live in, Dorset, which is also the only English county to have no motorways or cities. Aside from the above, we speak English and we're fairly welcoming to immigrants, so consider making this part of the mother country your future home.
 

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Come to Georgia in America! We have guns! A shit ton of guns. How many you say? My family alone owns over fifty! Also its hot! Really fucking hot! But more importantly its humid how humid you ask? It feels like God is trying to suffocate you with a wet electric blanket.
 

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Come to New York. We have the best pizza in the world, and there's a pizza place on practically every block.

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We have the greasiest food, one of the highest drug-related crime rates in the world, and we are so full of people either fleeing from their country or trying to find work, that a job is worth more than gold, tobacco, and a packet of crystal meth over here.

Our dogs are really, really cute.
 

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Anyone who is saying that Canada has swung to the "American Right" doesn't know what they are talking about. The Canadian Conservative Party who currently hold office is still left of the American democratic party, and supports things like gay marriage and abortion with the exception of a few individual MPs.

Their major issues right now are that they are embroiled in a few political scandals, mostly involving the senate, but this is really just a continuation of the endemic patronage that seems to have seeped into government, though it crosses party lines.

With your criteria in mind though, I will say that our internet infrastructure is pretty bad outside major cities, since the country is so large and the industry is set up like an oligopoly. Our tuition is relatively cheap, though not free, Quebec has by far the cheapest. We also do not have carbon taxes, as such a tax has proven disastrous for any party that has suggested it. Overall Canada is an excellent country with high social mobility and a good combination of social safety nets and entrepreneurial spirit.

How exactly are you planning on just moving though? Getting visas aren't that easy, getting permanent residence is even harder unless a company sponsors you.
 

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Come to Germany! Just a few reasons.


But seriously, it's a great country.
One of the leading countries in enviromentalism, great health system and pretty good education.
For example the government pays for most of the university expenses. The only thing we have to pay here is a pretty small fee per semester for a ticket that let's you ride the public transport systems as much as you want. For a really big distance, too.
Oh, yeah, we also have a great public transport system.
And if you want to go to college, but your parents don't earn enough money, then the government will support you as well and give you enough money for food and shelter and university.
There's actually a really big amount of things that the government pays for, too many to list them all.
And yet were one of the nations that has the least money problems.
So a pretty great country to live in.

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Oh and politically. Hmmm, well i personally don't like out current government, mostly because most of the politicians are a bunch of old farts that are as backwards as people can be, but i think that's true for a lot of countries.
We do a lot of demonstrations and petitions against stuff and they even work.
For example after the USA had it's IFTA or whatever it was called(You know that internet thing), the EU tried to push a similar one through called ASTA all secretive and stuff. But we noticed it, demonstrated the shit out of it and stopped it. Yay. Although that one was a EU efford, not just germany. BUT there's one big internet provider here called Telekom, that owns the majority of the internet lines here. They tried to push through a new system wherein, even with a DSL Flatrate, they would have the right to downgrade your internet connection for the rest of the month, if you downloaded too much. We demonstrated, the "Verbraucherzentrale" (A government institute that protects customers) sued them and our court forbade the practice. We got the news just today actually.
 

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Sleekit said:
misterprickly said:
IN MY country (Canada) the women have the right to bear breasts!
well that certainly beats bear arms...

False...nothing beats bear arms.

OT: I would say come to America, but I don't think you'd like it here.
 

wulfy42

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I'd say keep your options open and look around for a good job, then base where you move on that. I have an Austrian friend and from what I hear they are offering incentives to get people to move into their country (and to have children as well) due to a low birth rate. They have good health care and a liberal education system. I'm not an expert on the country at all, but I have seen some very pretty pictures and it sounds like a great place to live.

I live in the U.S. which isn't exactly the greatest place on earth, but it can have it's up sides as well. I wouldn't move here unless you get a job that feels like it will make a big difference. With your area of studies, I would focus most on where you can make the largest difference, most places in the world have beautiful areas to live in (not all, but most) but often those places are not near where you have to work.

As far as politics....well, if your moving to another country, you won't have much if any say in how that country is run. Even in Australia right now...I believe you do have some say/effect, so staying there could help you improve your country, while working to improve the world through your studies. I have always wanted to visit Australia personally, but it's a HUGE flight. I do find Australians extremely sexy though:)

Scotland does look awesome though, and I absolutely love rain, but I hate insects, and am not a fan of alcohol. I'll probably visit some year, but I don't think it would be on my top list of places to live (especially since I'm already married....cause Scottish lasses are also very hot:)

Lol...imagine moving to a country based on the hotness of the female population:)
 

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Hi there Escapists. I am interested in immigrating to another country once I finish my university studies. Your task, should you accept it, is to convince me to move to yours. I'd like to know why you enjoy living where you live and what makes it unique.

I currently live in Australia. I'm a 3rd year environmental engineering student. I only speak English and am of European descent. I'm non-religious and politically left-leaning.

The reason I'm seriously considering leaving this country is because of the new government we have here. I do not approve of many of their policies. In the short time since they've been elected, they have:

- Announced plans to cut university funding

- Begun shutting down most of our climate change institutions

- Are promising to axe mining and carbon taxes

- Replaced the former government's National Broadband Network plan with a far inferior alternative (I just learned today that my residence may not be receiving FTTP, instead we may be stuck with FTTN and relying on the old copper cable network to connect to the node)

- Cut foreign aid payments

- Stopped the publication of news related to asylum seekers, as well as seeking to turn asylum seeker vessels around offshore

Basically I'm sick of them, and as much as I love my country I'm seriously considering living elsewhere (at least for a while). So I ask you; where should I go?

Many thanks in advance.

EDIT: I am open to learning a new language.
You should consider one of the nordic countries. I would vote Norway. The nordic countries are traditionally left-wing, so much so that the right-wing parties are best described as somewhere in the neighbourhood of social liberal (i.e. American left), with an emphasis on the social part. The nordic countries are all also very environmentally friendly by international standards, with all nordic countries clocking in at top 30 of the EPI rankings (Australia is 48). They also all rank very highly on the human development index (although so does Australia). Furthermore, pretty much everyone in the nordic countries is more or less fluent in English, so there won't be much of a language barrier.

The reason I suggest Norway in particular is that it's economically one of the best places to live in the world - they rank 3rd in purchasing power per capita, while the other nordic countries are further behind in comparison. Most of this is due to their extensive oil industry, though, which might unnerve you if you're an environmentalist.

In that case I would suggest Sweden or Denmark, with Sweden gaining the upper hand because of a more left-leaning political tradition. It's a multi-party system (historically 5-8 parties in the parliament) with a tradition of minority governments, with the labour party having been in power for most of the past century. A right-wing coalition has been in power since 2006, though, in a coalition majority government that has essentially generated a two-party system instead. They're expected to be kicked out of government in the election next year, though, which is likely to shatter the coalition and, hopefully, return things to normal.

I can't speak for the labour market in your area of expertise for the other nordic countries, but I can say that there's high demand for environmental engineers in Sweden. Unemployment is practically non-existant in the field, and the demand is projected to rise during the next 10 years. With regards to the oil industry, they have actually found oil off-shore of a Swedish island, but the government didn't approve any drilling, with reference to environmental concerns. So that says something about the impact of environmentalism on Swedish policy.

If you would like to know more, feel free to send me a message with further questions. Being a political scientist and former labour market analyst, I have a pretty good idea of most political, social and economic conditions in Sweden, and to a lesser extent the other nordic countries.
 

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While I probably can't beat the Scandinavian guys here, I'm gonna try!

My country has shit politics, but not nearly as shit as most others! We have lots of parties, and most of them are full of old idiots. But there's a lot of them, so at least we aren't a two party system.
We have a relatively strong social structure, so that if you lose your job, you don't have to be a starving hobo. And hobos are relatively rare here - maybe two dozen in a few of the bigger cities (sure, our Capital probably has a lot, but normal cities). Racism is seriously looked down upon, even if it still exists.
Ok, so our weather is pretty bad, BUT it is versatile - snow in winter, pretty hot in summer, without ever going batshit crazy in either of them.
Culture is heavily subsidised (wow I got that word right?), so theatre and art galleries and stuff like that is pretty affordable. Consumer control is pretty good. We do stuff for the environment. Sure, we still have both coal and nuclear power plants, but both are under extreme protest. Protesting against stuff here is pretty normal. The police is mostly viewed as pretty good, with much fewer instances of power abuse then in other western countries. Our army almost never actually engages in fighting, and if they're out of our country, they mostly do nice things like ensuring safety and distributing supplies and getting pirates and stuff. The worst transgressions of our military right now are probably not even on par with the lightest of America.
Of course, we do have that big Elephant in the room in our history. And you'll see traces of that EVERYWHERE if you know how to look at things.

But the biggest thing? The people. For some it's weird, for some it's great.
Apparently we stare a lot (everyone keeps telling me that, but I just don't notice it myself) at pretty much everyone.
People need a lot of warming up before they will call you their friend - but then, you'll have a friend for life.
The biggest difference, though? Honesty. Both in a good, and a bad way. We don't like smalltalk. Either say something that you want to say or don't say anything at all. We didn't even have a word for smalltalk before we stole the english one. So it can be a little bit cold at first - cashiers will NEVER ask you for your day, or how crazy the weather is, unless there is a tornado outside. We don't even have the concept of a "white lie" - the closest is "Notlüge", emergency lie.
That might sound nice, but it also means people won't sugarcoat anything. Go into a place to eat something and it's not too fancy? Don't be disturbed if the chef doesn't smile. We don't do the "I love my job" smile unless we really do.

So, yeah, Germany, if you want to have a good social net and people who are brutally honest in comparison.
 

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Drummodino said:
Hi there Escapists. I am interested in immigrating to another country once I finish my university studies. Your task, should you accept it, is to convince me to move to yours. I'd like to know why you enjoy living where you live and what makes it unique.

I currently live in Australia. I'm a 3rd year environmental engineering student. I only speak English and am of European descent. I'm non-religious and politically left-leaning.
Well, Canada and Australia have always been on good terms as far as engineers go. We have equivalency for a pile of stuff, so if you get your EIT status in Australia then you can come to Canada and practice with pretty minimal extra requirements. Its not like that with Canada/US, we have to take each others godawful exams before we can do anything. Additionally if you find a company to work for before you make the move they will help with your visa application, and if they like you they can opt to sponsor your permanent residency.

In fact when I graduated I had three or four friends make the leap over the pond to start their EIT term in Australia. Two mechanical engineers, a petroleum engineer and an environmental engineer.

Some people have mentioned tuition, which is cool if its an ideological issue, but if you are worried about getting more school for yourself you should know that the province is the one who helps pay down the tuition, and they don't typically help out of province individuals. There are a shit tonne of scholarships for out of province students though, so there is that.

Honestly I've been blithely unaware of most of the political happenings in Canada since before my second post second stuff. I can't really tell you what's good or whats bad.

Oh although: if you have an ideological issue with petroleum, oil sands, or forestry, then as an environmental engineer you will pretty much have to live in the eastern provinces. Out here in the west all our engineering jobs are at least in some way tied to those, particularly the larger firms. If you find a company in the western provinces big enough to be willing to sponsor a visa for you, guaranteed you will end up working on something for the oil sands or the forestry industry sooner or later.
 

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Move to Sweden! Because... Er... REASONS!

We are pretty environmentally friendly, we are disproportionally attractive according to a lot of visitors, and we have a pretty decent social safety net. Not to mention school is free, at least to citizens. Oh, and though I wouldn't like living there myself - don't like big cities - Stockholm is fricking beautiful.


Open image in a new tab to see it bigger. GORGEOUS. /biased opinion

EDIT: Also, if you're a lazy fucker and don't want to learn the language, we all speak English. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find the opportunity to practise your Swedish as everyone and their half-deaf granny will want to practise their English on you. Seriously.
 

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TehCookie said:
Come to Michigan in the USA, we have snow!
As a michigander currently in high school I cannot tell you the aggravation I feel when I get 2 inches of snow and the county next to me gets a foot.

OP: As Tehcookie said, we have snow. But we also have the great lakes which are the greatest. and the U.P isn't so bad either.
 

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I'll just leave this right here..



So when do you arrive?

(UK, in case you didn't guess)
 

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You need to come to Belgium. Just like Aussies we have mandatory voting and on top of that i often read we lack engineers (though i'm not sure if environmental engineers specifically are being highly sought after).

On top of that we're pretty left wing, state funded cheap universities, universal healthcare, decent welfare system, relatively high minimum wage (compared to others), etc. But unlike other countries where those things can quickly go away our political system which is based on complicated inefficiency will ensure no drastic change ever happen.

And when it comes to fun we have the best beer, chocolate and french fries. On top of that we're such a small densely packed country that you can get anywhere from anywhere driving 350 km max. And we're also the kind of people who celebrate the fact we don't have a federal government for a year by eating french fries, drinking beer and singing on the street. (others might get angry, we just don't care)

And lastly, since the Red Devils are finally playing good you would right on time to be able support our national soccer team when it actually has a chance to get somewhere during the world cup.

And let's not forget we're the only kind of people who'd have this statue as a landmark:

While at the same time having these giant balls:

and just as a bonus, the "Venice of the North":