Cop goes to wrong house, shoots owners dog.

[Meight08]

...except that it was the wrong house

This part is irrelevant.

In addition, the owner has little to no time for reaction once he sees the officer and the officer trying to blame him for the dog being shot is reprehensible.

I don't think he's really trying to blame the owner. You've never said anything like that after you've done something that went bad? Notice how he didn't voice any of his complaints to the other officers or his supe.

It is actually very relevant that he went to the wrong house, it is perhaps the biggest reason that the dog is dead right now.

I'm not saying that all cops are bad or that he intended the dog to die, but his negligence in responding to a call about a disturbance does require some form of penalization.

He should not have had his weapon drawn on someone who is unarmed and walking out of a different house than the one he received the call for and even accidents have consequences, I know because when I've done something bad by accident I still end up in trouble.

The guy who called the cops gave the wrong address the cop couldn't have know it was the wrong house

 

[DugMachine]

I don't like the people saying "just give him some money to buy a new dog." I don't know his relationship to the animal but i'd be devastated. Now that being said, the officer made a mistake and shouldn't be punished for it. He did make the mistake of entering the wrong house but if I was in his position and a dog was acting aggresive towards me i'd probably shoot it too.

 

[Meight08]

Oh my god a human being made a mistake, you are kidding me. Yeah I thought the rest of us are perfect. That is the final straw, time to make a "lets kill all cops thread." May your torches burn bright and your pitchforks pointy, it's cop killing time. Everyone on this planet signed a pact to be perfect, I won't stand a glitch in the system. Almost can't type right now because my perfect world is falling apart. Lets put the joking aside and say he made a mistake, will probably feel bad for a long time.

Yeah he's fine, the other day when I was mowing the lawn, I finished mowing only to find that not only was I in the wrong lawn, but I had mowed over my neighbour's prize roses. It was only a mistake though, we're all human and we all make mistakes. I mean how was I supposed to know that I was in the wrong lawn? and how was I supposed to NOT shred those prize roses to pieces as my neighbour was shouting some garble about the roses being dethorned and carefully looked after?

but seriously you sound so stupid just saying it was a mistake.. Let's look at the facts shall we?

1. Cop gets information about where he needs to go
2. Cop goes into wrong house DESPITE HAVING THE INFORMATION (seriously it's not like he was picking a house at random) and barges in
2a. The cop has his gun already drawn as he goes in
3. dog barks at the cop, the owner tells the cop the dog won't hurt him but can't get the dog back because the cop is pointing his gun at the dog
4. the cop shoots the dog who WASN'T attacking him (the guy had time to explain that the dog wasn't going to hurt the cop...)

The guy who called 911 gave the cops the wrong adress.

 

[Robert Ewing]

Wow, that's a royal fuck up. -4 public relations toward police.

 

[spartan231490]

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The cop should lose his god damn job, and be responsible for replacing the dog(as much as can be).

actually the radio dispather should be, since they ballsed up the operation with the wrong address. maybe if they were competent none of this would have happened.
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I don't give a good god damn if the dispatcher gave him the wrong address, this kind of behavior wouldn't have been any more acceptable in the house of the criminal. You don't hold an unarmed man at gunpoint in his own house. he wasn't resisting arrest, he wasn't armed, he was trying to calm his dog down, the dog was understandably upset because some stranger had barged into it's master's house and attacked it's master.

 

[JoJo]

I agree, I'd be angry if it was a human but come on a dog? I don't see anyone complaining about the pig I going to eat for lunch today, maybe the policeman should pay for the cost of the dog so the owner can buy a new one but other than that it's not really newsworthy. The policeman had the right to defend himself.

Where you emotionally attached to the pig you ate for lunch?
Did a stranger arrive at your house, scream at you and then shoot the pig that you were emotionally attached to? Yeah, not exactly the same come to think about it.

Regarding the part I've bolded; fucking hell dude, it's not like the officer just accidentally knocked over a TV. This guy lives alone with his dog, people get emotionally attached to their pets, and here, some guy just wanders into his house, screams at him and shoots his dog. Fuck dude, thats some pretty scary shit right there. The police department owe him a lot more than just a new dog.

Sure, it must have been a pretty shitty experience but searches of innocent people's houses happens all the time, it's not ideal that their property sometimes get's damaged like in this case but if we gave out compensation and punishments every time for police officers doing their duty, well we wouldn't have much money or police left! For all the policeman knew that dog could have mauled him, now we know better but I would have done the same in his situation, better for many dogs to die than for one police officer to give benefit of the doubt and end up with his face chewed off. I'm being pretty generous to be honest with my suggestion of some compensation, heck maybe the owner could buy a younger and/or better dog than he owned previously and so benefit.

 

[spartan231490]

I'd just say "lol, what a Muppet" but then I'd get done for a low content post.

I guess I'll add that he should face disciplinary action. Perhaps a written warning (or yank equivalent) and apologise to the owner?

I'm sure he'll feel much better about being held at gunpoint in his own home and having his dog shot after he gets an apology.

The cop should lose his god damn job, and be responsible for replacing the dog(as much as can be).

Really? I mean to say; training police officers is expensive and this was a man who made an honest mistake that any of us could have made.

He goes to a house where there is a domestic dispute, a violent and potentially lethal situation, and he gets rushed by a dog. How are we to know the dog only wanted to say "Hello? Hello, I love you!"?

All the poor dude sees is dog charging at him. Saliva flecking off its jaws, eyes burning like the fires of hades and then it leaps at him. All the while a woman is screaming, children are screaming.

I think in that situation you or I would have done the same thing.

The family will get compensation anyway. They will be able to buy 10 dogs with that money.

I 100% guarentee I would not have, because I'm not retarded. There was no screaming, it was the wrong fucking house, the man was out in his yard playing frisbee with a dog, and the officer drew his weapon. That's against protocol, on a domestic disturbance call you don't go in with your gun drawn.

Further, this wasn't some 80 pound German Shepard. It was a blue heeler, they don't get much over 35 pounds and pose no serious danger to a person. Sure, you might have some teeth marks, but your life, hell your health isn't even in danger, and you have no need to shoot the poor thing.

Also, the "suspect"(sarcastic air quotes) was cooperating, hands on his head, and had told the officer the dog wouldn't bite. This was a massive breach of protocol and common sense that resulted in a man losing his 7 year old dog, this officer should not keep his job. I think he should be charged criminally but I know that will never happen.

This is why I think that learning about the way dogs act should be part of police training.

Mistakes happen but still, a little bit of knowledge could have changed the outcome without a dog being shot.

Anyone know if the officer apologised to the guy who's dog he shot?

From what I've found no, he did not, but the police chief of the department did. Like an apology is really going to make him feel so much better. Knowing that, through no fault of his own, some jack-fuck police officer could go to the wrong house, hold him at gunpoint, shoot his dog, and get off after writing an apology like it's god-damn kindergarten.



From reading the responses on this thread, I can tell that the vast majority of you have never owned a dog, and don't understand how important they are to the owner. Further, it's obvious that a great many of you didn't even read up on what happened.

 

[spartan231490]

It's not until after the shooting, Paxton says, that the officer started asking questions.

MASSIVE BREACH OF PROTOCOL. FIRE THIS ASSHOLE BEFORE HE SHOOTS A PERSON WHO'S DONE NOTHING WRONG, INSTEAD OF JUST SOME "DUMB ANIMAL."

 

[GiglameshSoulEater]

Further details (and text article, and what appears to be an unedited dashcam video): http://kutnews.org/post/details-emerge-police-shooting-cisco-pet-dog?nopop=1

Okay so, first thing the cop does is order the man to put his hands up. What caused him to issue this order? Did Paxton appear to be a threat?

Then, in conflict with his first order, he tells the man "get your dog." However, he shoots the dog less than a second afterward, right after saying "dog."

Did he not see the dog at first? This would explain the conflicting orders. The dog must've been rushing toward the officer, otherwise there would've been more time between the order to restrain the mutt and the shooting.

Now put yourself into the officer's shoes: you're confronting a man you don't know, and a dog you don't know, and the dog is rushing toward you. The man, for all you know, just finished beating up his girlfriend. The dog, you know nothing about, it could even be a fighting dog. The dog is barking and running full tilt at you. You have half a second to react.

Even if the dog is friendly, if he jumps on you that's going to be distracting, may even cause you accidentally fire your weapon if you have it drawn (and watching the video further, he did already had it drawn), and would also provide an opening for the man to either escape or attack you. And if the dog isn't friendly, well...

It's tragic, to be sure, but I'm not really sure I can blame the officer.

I would agree with you here, except I wouldn't quite call it tragic.

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

...except that it was the wrong house

This part is irrelevant.

How is this part irrelevant? This is the reason the dog is dead, it is perfectly relevant. Instead of putting yourself in the officers shoes, put yourself in the victims shoes. If an officer broke into your house, held you at gunpoint and then shot your dog would you still feel that the fact he is in the wrong house is irrelevant? No, I do not think you would.

And I don't care if you have a dog or not, I'm saying this as a theoretical situation. You say you can't blame the officer? He was in the wrong house, he is the only one to blame here.

 

[Fwee]

I hope that in the light of all the recent "Police Shoots (Noun) For No Reason" stories out there, people will realize that the Police are not out there to protect you. They want to force you to live your life by their rules, and they're paid by the public and the government to arm themselves to the teeth with a disastrous mix of top-of-the-line weaponry and post-terrorism paranoia.
They overreact to anything. They're like if fainting goats triggered exploding shrapnel instead of just fainting.

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

There you go mod bait. Get that anger out. So how are things going with you mod bait? Everything going good in life. Hows school going mod bait?

Such a special little boy.

Relevant:


As others have said, humans aren't perfect. But, when it comes to the use of lethal force, perfection HAS to be expected. Mistakes in this area are unacceptable.

Well thank you. Mod bait thanks you. We are just trying to spread the love. Times are tough, gas prices are high, there is no special place for little boys anymore. I take that back, wait here while I go ask mod bait.

Why do you keep this up? This is futile. Are you really so bored that you have nothing better to do than to make pitiful attempts at bothering people over the Internet? Or are you misguided enough to actually believe that you are accomplishing something?

You started it mod bait.

1. You made fun of my spelling
2. You called me immature
3. You called me a prissy brat
4. You got me in trouble

Now your mad because I call you mod bait. Sorry mod bait, there is no turning back.

I want you to know that, if anything, you are the one that is baiting the mods. The way you're acting right now is isn't doing anything to prove him wrong about you being immature or a prissy brat. Not to mention if you keep this up, you're going to get in trouble again, this time it will be your own damn fault. And considering you're already in red on the forum health bar, with only two bars left, you might want to calm down.

 

[Nietz]

This was a sad story indeed. Reading the thread made it even sadder. There seems to be something wrong with a country if the de facto approach to all any any "dangerous" situation is with a gun drawn. You can't blame the cop for entering the wrong house, he was given faulty directions, you can't blame the dog, it's a dog, you can't blame the owner, he was staring down a barrel. You CAN on the other hand blame the idea that it's okay for ANYONE to approach strangers and unknown situations with your weapon drawn.

"It's a dangerous situation, he did the right thing." I've seen this pop up a lot in this thread. I don't care. Train your police better! Give them better equipment!

Oh, and FYI, if a cop came to my house and shot my cat. Only one of us would have exited the building. I love my cat over 99% of the population and would gladly kill anyone who threatened him.

 

[nathan-dts]

Worst first world country in the world.
Just watched the video, the guy literally just barged in and shot the dog. Fuck that guy.

 

[El Luck]

From what I've found no, he did not, but the police chief of the department did. Like an apology is really going to make him feel so much better. Knowing that, through no fault of his own, some jack-fuck police officer could go to the wrong house, hold him at gunpoint, shoot his dog, and get off after writing an apology like it's god-damn kindergarten.

From reading the responses on this thread, I can tell that the vast majority of you have never owned a dog, and don't understand how important they are to the owner. Further, it's obvious that a great many of you didn't even read up on what happened.

The apology question was more so just a random after thought to be honest. I know the apology would mean jack shit but still I was just wondering.

I do agree with what you wrote in the second paragraph, and looking at some of the shit that has been written...yeah I don't think I can look at this thread anymore without wanting to scream at my monitor.

 

[Jynthor]

Dogs should be banned anyway. Go cop!

 

[El Luck]

fucking forget it.