Could America be invaded?

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Zombie Badger

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I started wondering if it could be invaded while playing World in Conflict.

The main problems with invading any country are its geography, the population, and the Army.

1) The United States is a massive place, the third or fourth largest in the world, depending on which set of figures you use. This presents a problem as invading country's armies are often stretched too thinly to be effective. Unlike the two larger countries, America is relatively warm, compared to the freezing winters that defeated the French and Germans invading Russia and the Americans in their failed attempt to invade Canada in the war of 1812. The Rocky mountains would be a problem as well, but only if resistance fighters set up there and attacked the surrounding area.

Overall, I believe that with a large enough army, the size of the US would not present too great a problem.

2) The population of the US would be a massive problem. Thanks to the misinterpretation of the US constitution (It actually gives the right to bear arms to 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State'), many Americans own guns and are very proficient in their use. The Americans in general have a very patriotic attitude, and the rabid patriotism in their media, which is especially noticable on FOX news, is reminiscent of the patriotism in Nazi Germany. This would likely motivate them to fight to defend their homeland. Their use of actual tactics would be debatable, as they might try to copy Rambo, but they would certainly gather into small groups of resistance fighters. Resistance fighters are always a headache for invading troops: The Eldelweiss Pirates in France killed the chief of the Cologne Gestapo in 1944, and many other groups sprang up in Europe during World War II. The American resistance fighters would be far better armed, and would likely join up with the local National Guard units.

In conclusion, the resistance would be a massive problem for an invading force.

3) The US Army is one of the best in the world, and one of the better equipped (This has improved vastly since Vietnam). They also have around a million soldiers, which could be put to great use and their numbers would be bolstered by Resistance fighters. They also know the are they'll be fighting in well, which is a massive benefit in urban combat.


In conclusion, I believe that if America was invaded, the invaders would face a massive struggle against the US Army forces currently in the country, but if they defeated them, they would be in their own Vietnam-esce war, with constant guerilla attacks. What do you think?
 

Hoxton

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whaaat? i've seen the EXACT same thread a few weeks ago.
wtf is wrong with people? Un Search baton please..~

EDIT: Annnd here's a link (since i'm feeling generous and shit.)
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.116632?page=1
 

Cpt_Oblivious

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This thread was done a couple of weeks ago. With the exact same title. Please use the search button.

I believe it could.
 

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Cpt_Oblivious said:
This thread was done a couple of weeks ago. With the exact same title. Please use the search button.

I believe it could.
War of 1812.

It WAS invaded.
 

dnnydllr

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Hoxton said:
whaaat? i've seen the EXACT same thread a few weeks ago.
wtf is wrong with people? Une Search batton please..~
Use spell check/proper grammar please. And yes we could, but I'm afraid whatever nation invaded us would be screwed.
 

Lazier Than Thou

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I don't really think anyone can invade America and get away with it. They'd have to seriously cripple our people before they came in(economic/biological attacks) and even then you have to deal with a bunch of belligerent gun totting conservatives. I wouldn't wish that fate on anyone and I happen to be one of those belligerent gun totting conservatives.

I think the American people have more to fear from Washington than they do to the outside world.
 

Hoxton

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dnnydllr said:
Hoxton said:
whaaat? i've seen the EXACT same thread a few weeks ago.
wtf is wrong with people? Une Search batton please..~
Use spell check/proper grammar please. And yes we could, but I'm afraid whatever nation invaded us would be screwed.
I'm feeling jack-ish today so, NO, thank you, i will NOT use spell check nor proper grammar.
 

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Zombie Badger said:
I started wondering if it could be invaded while playing World in Conflict.

The main problems with invading any country are its geography, the population, and the Army.

1) The United States is a massive place, the third or fourth largest in the world, depending on which set of figures you use. This presents a problem as invading country's armies are often stretched too thinly to be effective. Unlike the two larger countries, America is relatively warm, compared to the freezing winters that defeated the French and Germans invading Russia and the Americans in their failed attempt to invade Canada in the war of 1812. The Rocky mountains would be a problem as well, but only if resistance fighters set up there and attacked the surrounding area.

Overall, I believe that with a large enough army, the size of the US would not present too great a problem.

2) The population of the US would be a massive problem. Thanks to the misinterpretation of the US constitution (It actually gives the right to bear arms to 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State'), many Americans own guns and are very proficient in their use. The Americans in general have a very patriotic attitude, and the rabid patriotism in their media, which is especially noticable on FOX news, is reminiscent of the patriotism in Nazi Germany. This would likely motivate them to fight to defend their homeland. Their use of actual tactics would be debatable, as they might try to copy Rambo, but they would certainly gather into small groups of resistance fighters. Resistance fighters are always a headache for invading troops: The Eldelweiss Pirates in France killed the chief of the Cologne Gestapo in 1944, and many other groups sprang up in Europe during World War II. The American resistance fighters would be far better armed, and would likely join up with the local National Guard units.

In conclusion, the resistance would be a massive problem for an invading force.

3) The US Army is one of the best in the world, and one of the better equipped (This has improved vastly since Vietnam). They also have around a million soldiers, which could be put to great use and their numbers would be bolstered by Resistance fighters. They also know the are they'll be fighting in well, which is a massive benefit in urban combat.


In conclusion, I believe that if America was invaded, the invaders would face a massive struggle against the US Army forces currently in the country, but if they defeated them, they would be in their own Vietnam-esce war, with constant guerilla attacks. What do you think?
1. you forgot the National Guard, and the reserves.

2. Patriotism? Where's the research on that? It's more greed. "Get off my property, you (fill in blank here)" than patriotism. We will repell all invaders just because it would mess up our lifestyle, rather than patriotism.

3. I dunno the stats, but I believe you are combining all four armed forces numbers. Guess what? Air Force and Half the Navy are not exactly "soldiers" Trust me, I know.

WHat do I think? Not really planned out there. While Geography is always an issue in any land based war, these days it's all about the nuking from a distance. And never underestamite the power of apathy.
 

KSarty

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Yes it can be invaded, any country can be. It is all speculation on how easily it can be done, but it can be done.

Zombie Badger said:
(It actually gives the right to bear arms to 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State')
If you look up the United States militia, you will find that every able-bodied man age 17-45 is a part of the Reserve Militia (aka Unorganized Militia), so that is still a very large portion of the population that can legally own a gun according to your interpretation of the constitution.
 
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Draculafreak said:
Well, Georgia was invaded not too long ago so that answers your question.

=P
Yeah, but one would tend to believe that a small Caucasian country is somewhat easier to invade than a world superpower. Unless that was a joke citing the two omonym Georgia countries, in which case... Ha?

Seriously though, let's look at this thing for a minute who on earth is either powerful or crazy enough to try and invade American soil?
 

Insanum

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You could invade the more coastal areas but places like denver would become strongholds.

And the USA has nukes all over, You could take control of certain bases but not all of them. The only way it could happen is if multitudes of nations decide too attack all at once.
 

Crimsane

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Depends largely on the situation with other nations at the time. An invasion would already be a long and protracted fight, but with other large nations as America's allies, it's essentially a suicide mission that not many would be willing to take on. Of course, if those allies are lost or switch sides, it's a much more favorable proposition.
 

KSarty

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Insanum said:
You could invade the more coastal areas but places like denver would become strongholds.
Not necessarily. The coastal regions have the densest population, so they would probably face the largest amount of resistance on the coasts.