Could and Should SquareEnix use Kickstarter to raise funds for an FFVII remake?

[mad825]

Popularity actually counts for a lot when you're discussing if it's overrated. How can something popular - (with a collective critical rating of 92 on Metacritic - so not just fans -and a lot of these reviews coming years later...), that has lasted more than a decade - be overrated? That makes no sense, and is simply the opinion of someone who feels like this:

Popularity accounts for what the majority of what the people agree on, it's not necessarily correct or wrong.

Mine isn't subjective opinion. It's backed by cold hard data. Yours is not...

So you're basing objectiveness off subjectiveness? Interesting.

It is one of this highest selling games on PSN - objective
It is still talked about constantly after 15 years - objective
Metacritic score based on critical responses - objective


versus

I don't like it and because of that it's overrated - subjective

I never mean to say the FF7 is bad however the game is earning more credit than it should. FF7 was a turning point in graphics not gameplay nor story. Not only that, it would have been many peoples first FF game therefore people would like it more simply because they are familiar with it and can relate to it.

The sales are the result of this.

But again, people are stupid. The console version sucks.

 

[FernandoV]

FF VII cost them over $30 million the first time around; no kickstarter I've heard of has even come close to that so far, and what's more, that was in 1997 dollars, with 1997 levels of videogame complexity. Today they'd probably need something like $150 million or more to make a game with the same level of detail as FF VII and modern graphical fidelity, not to mention the large amount of time it would keep their main team tied up just on that one game. That's why they aren't remaking it; it's just too big of a project to undertake with current gen graphics and Square-Enix's funds.

I'm guessing your ballpark figure is not based on any kind of real math at all. I don't disagree that it would cost more but I'd just like to point out that you're talking out of your ass.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

FF VII cost them over $30 million the first time around; no kickstarter I've heard of has even come close to that so far, and what's more, that was in 1997 dollars, with 1997 levels of videogame complexity. Today they'd probably need something like $150 million or more to make a game with the same level of detail as FF VII and modern graphical fidelity, not to mention the large amount of time it would keep their main team tied up just on that one game. That's why they aren't remaking it; it's just too big of a project to undertake with current gen graphics and Square-Enix's funds.

I'm guessing your ballpark figure is not based on any kind of real math at all. I don't disagree that it would cost more but I'd just like to point out that you're talking out of your ass.

The $30 million figure is from the back of the case[footnote]Although I think it may have been more like $33 million; my case, like most jewel cases from my childhood, has long since wound up in the trash thanks to the crappy brittle plastic those things were made out of. In any case, it's pretty close to the average cost of a AAA game today, and was one of the most expensive games ever made at the time[/footnote], the $150 million is a rough guess based on the fact that GTA IV, an ultimately simpler game than FFVII, was the most expensive game ever made at $100 million, as well as the constant statements from Squeenix about how they're not going to remake it anytime soon because of how obscenely expensive it would be to make. So yeah, it's a guess, but I'm not completely talking out of my ass here.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Ugh, every single thread about this topic makes me want to scream. FFVII is overrated.

And the existence of all these threads, the fact that FFVII is one of the highest selling downloadable games on PSN (all time) and even 15 years after initial release still garners as much attention as it does -- makes you wrong.

Sorry, them's the breaks.

No..It just means that people likes to fap to nostalgia. Also, people are are simply stupid. The PC version is far better than the console version due the mods available for it. *ahem* like HD textures.

There's a difference between popularity and something that's good. Like the Iphone, nothing spectacular.

This reminds me, actually: why is it that the Playstation version is available on the PSN, but the PC version isn't available on Steam or GoG? Even though my original copy of the PSX version still works, I'd pay $10 or $20 to get a copy just for the reasons you gave, not to mention the fact that they added a few things like a new collection sidequest that weren't in the PSX version at all. I remember reading some complaints about the music in a few reviews, but they were hardware specific; too many people playing on old soundblaster cards.

 

[phantasyguy]

I don't see why sooo many final fantasy fans seem to be against the whole kickstarter idea for FF7. I can see how some people are angered by the idea of giving a big company like Square-Enix 'extra money'. But the way that people are reacting to the whole idea is completely absurd. It's not like Square is asking for the money. This FF7 kickstarter idea was obviously thought of by a fan/some fans.
It's not square-enix reaching out and saying "hey give us all ya money!"
If anything its the opposite. Square-enix never fails to avoid 'talking' to much about FF7.
As far as Square-Enix is concerned FF7 is FF7. But as far as a large portion of the FF fanboy base is concerned (myself included), we feel that we need/want more.
For we, the fanboys, have been lead on; Ever since the release of the FF7 Tech Demo.
Although i feel we cannot blame square-enix for the never ending FF7 blasphemeys, it is undoubtedly clear that the tech demo was meant to give all of us this twisted feeling of hope.
Square have put all their cards on the table as far as FF7 goes. And this kickstarter idea is a brand new hand for the FF7 Remake fanbase. Square-Enix have said no. But the fans who want to start a kickstarter scream 'yes!'
The idea of the kickstarter is for the fans to want it so bad that they are willing to donate to it as a cause. The idea is not for square-enix to say "alright give us this much money and we will remake your FF7." The idea should be for fans to be joyous for this opportunity, to take part, and to make a miracle happen.
Because everyone says that it will take a miracle right?
WELL WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Even if you dont despise the idea and show a slight interest in a FF7 remake, I'm sure that your interet would be worth a $1.00 or more. Otherwise you wouldnt be on this page right now reading this and trying to scrumage every last little piece of new FF7 news that you can get your hands on.
Theres probably a few people out there in the world who would be willing to murder for the sake of this game getting remade. In fact right now the results of this are so sad that its possible that more people are willing to kill for this game, than others are willing to pay a $1.00 to have it remade. How sad is that? How sad is it that so called 'loyal' fans arent even willing to cough up a few bucks for a just, fan based cause.

To all you loyal FF and FF7 fans out there, if a remake is what you want then now is the time to be loud and be heard. I'm all for the supporting of this cause.

 

[The Genius]

Mega companies using Kickstarter to generate revenue is disgusting. The fact that people will actually donate to it is worse. I really hope this Kickstarter trend dies a quick death or gets a significant policy change to avoid corporations rorting the masses.

 

[Don Savik]

Wouldn't you rather they make a new and fresh IP (with a larger potential to be a better game) instead of butchering the Final Fantasy series?

I know its big, but sometimes you have to let old friends die.

And sometimes, you have to shoot them yourselves.

 

[Brad Shepard]

I will not pay for a remake of a game I still have, I got a 60 buck copy of FF7 i got for about 10 bucks at a pawn shop when i was around 12 years old, ive held on to that thing and wont give it up, I like it, but its overall weak in terms of final fantasy, and it really is the starting point where things went downhill to what we have today, Dont get me wrong, I love ff7-10, but still, seeing what it has become, Heavy Rain with more button pressing... its sad.

 

[Truniron]

They should rather focus on making Final Fantasy XV better than the previous games. Forget this remake and focus on what´s matter.

 

[Plucky]

As much as id like Square Enix to start to remake 3D Final Fantasy Games, 7 just simply has the most volatile audience, a slight change to such a large milestone could set off a lot of people, not to mention that it would look aged in today's standards unless they were updated to a certain extent. (Barring FFX, since they had good looking enough models to justify a PS Vita/PS3 Remake/Port/Tune-Up/Whatever)


Plus they know that 7 is a large fan favorite in the entire series, they already milked like 3 games and 2 movies on 7 alone, didn't they? (i wouldn't be surprised if people wanted the Remake on it's own)


EDIT: When did Kickstarter become such a fad?, did it simply gain steam from that one time when Notch said that he was THINKING of funding for a Psychonauts 2...then didn't? (or did he?)

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

I wouldn't give them anything. They have more than enough money to make that game, they just don't want to.
Also, remakes suck. I don't care how good everyone believes a game was, remaking it is never a good idea.

 

[Rastien]

No. No.
They HAVE money kickstarter is COMPLETELY irrelavant.

If they decide to make it they will, they know people want it and its a cash cow they are more than likely sitting on till a rainy day which may well be coming sooner than we think.

 

[tzimize]

No.

They dont need the money, and we dont need the game. Make something new for crying out loud. Finish Tomb Raider for example :|