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Kargathia

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PrinceOfShapeir said:
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Seriously the graphics are subpar. Valve needs to build a new engine already. I'm hoping thats why Half Life 3 is taking so long. Wouldn't it be an all is forgiven moment if we could see Half Life 3 using graphics as powerful as the CryENGINE 3?
Not everyone actually gives all that much of a shit about graphics.
Not to mention that somehow I doubt Valve's suddenly going to cater to high-end computers only. They seem quite comfortable using high-end aesthetics with midrange requirements; after all it does help if more people can play your game.
 

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Vivi22 said:
I think you were mostly right the first time with four weapons. CS:S revolved around the AK-47, M4, and AWP predominantly. Some people would venture into scout territory since it was cheap and a head shot was a head shot. The only other weapons that saw much use in my experience were the P90 and the MP-5, but the people using those were few and far between.
The FAMAS is pretty common too. When fired full-auto its a glorified SMG with a smaller magazine, but when you burst-fire it's almost pin-point accurate regardless of range. I used to see a lot of people burst-sniping with it.

I made it a point to use unpopular weapons, though. It wasn't uncommon to see me take to the field with an FN Five-seveN and a Steyr TMP. Both of which can be surprisingly effective if used properly, though are admittedly much more situational than the flavor-of-the-month alternatives.

As for CS:GO... haven't played it yet. $15 is pretty cheap, but I think I'll wait for that to drop in a Steam sale. I expect I won't have to wait too long to see it for $5 or less.
 

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Kargathia said:
PrinceOfShapeir said:
Zack Alklazaris said:
Seriously the graphics are subpar. Valve needs to build a new engine already. I'm hoping thats why Half Life 3 is taking so long. Wouldn't it be an all is forgiven moment if we could see Half Life 3 using graphics as powerful as the CryENGINE 3?
Not everyone actually gives all that much of a shit about graphics.
Not to mention that somehow I doubt Valve's suddenly going to cater to high-end computers only. They seem quite comfortable using high-end aesthetics with midrange requirements; after all it does help if more people can play your game.
Agreed. Valve games are some of the only games I can play on PC without destroying my fps. I'm sure there are others out there but Valve is consistent and for that they have all my support with the source engine.
 

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CS-Source had Soul-Shooting, CS-GO does not.
Therefore, CS-GO is the superior game.

(based on my experience with the beta, it really is a mechanical improvement. Much better GUI layout, though the reflex shooting feels stiff compared to either of its predecessors.)
 

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As someone who only played CS:Source for the Gun Game servers and my only experience with 1.6 was through Condition Zero (as in, the part of the game that was just CS 1.6 but with bots, not including the "Deleted Scenes" campaign), my opinion might not be considered the most "helpful" or "valid" by some.

That being said, I'm really enjoying CS:GO. While it is a little hard to get into at first, in my opinion, once you get the hang of it what you get is a very rewarding and fairly balanced experience. The weapons feel good, the movement feels good, everything just feels good once you get into the groove of things. Plus, I honestly do like how there's a matchmaking system that makes it far easier to get into just a plain ol' vanilla game. I absolutely hated how in CS:Source 99% of the servers had some sort of mod implemented, and 90% of those servers were "24/7 Dust/Office/etc.". I prefer just playing the default game with a good map rotation rather than some silly mod and just one map all the time, so it's nice that I can get that with CS:GO.

Plus, considering all the "pro" Counter Strike gamers keep decrying and boycotting CS:GO for not being exactly like 1.6, it means I don't have to deal with them and I get a fighting chance!

So yes, in short I'd say Counter Strike: Global Offensive was a fantastic purchase in the end.
 

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MichiganMuscle77 said:
[...]Sprays are also missing for some reason.[...]
If I still had my screenshots from when I was an administrator on Source engine servers, I would show you the very reason why that was so. Though, I'd probably be banned from escapist if that was the case.

Porn Sprays. That was it. We didn't care about decoy sprays, or animated sprays, or sprays that messed with gameplay. (I'm pretty sure I was the only person who had a "Thermal Spray" in Dystopia, but I never used it.)

Kargathia said:
PrinceOfShapeir said:
Zack Alklazaris said:
Not everyone actually gives all that much of a shit about graphics.
Not to mention that somehow I doubt Valve's suddenly going to cater to high-end computers only. They seem quite comfortable using high-end aesthetics with midrange requirements; after all it does help if more people can play your game.
I kind of agree with this. Higher Graphics. (Which, for VALVe's style, wouldn't set in right) cost more resources. Some of us don't have two coins to rub together either, which is one reason why I like VALVE so much. My previous Rig, cost $200, and it lasted 7 years barely handling the Source Engine. My current rig put me down $500 after Xmas, and I expect it never retire.

This is the same reason as to why WoW's graphics remained largely unchanged and low-end. Make it easier for everyone to play.
 

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*sigh*

You know what the biggest issue is here?
Comparing Global Offensive to Source. They are different games. If it was CS: Source then Valve would have called it so

Instead of acting like Valve has broken into your house and shat on your face, just be happy you have Counter Strike on the consoles

Now we need Day of Defeat: Source next :)
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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I hate it so much.
Yeah, the graphics are great, but that's not why I play valve games.
It's a watered down piece of crap version of CS:S with fancy new map updates, and CoD clone game modes.

The damn thing took away all of the little things I loved about CS, and replaced them with generic CoD crapness.
And plus, the buy system. Mother of fuck does it suck.
Consoles, please stay out of Counter Strike... please?
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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Newby_Newb said:
Vivi22 said:
Newby_Newb said:
Global Offensive is easily the worse version of Counter-Strike ever.
I love people who simply make a statement and then never back it up.

The person wants to know if it's worth getting. Explaining why you don't like it might help him consider how much weight to give your opinion.
Here are my reasons for not liking it.

-The changes made to the maps has made them worse. They have less room to maneuver and there are more choke points.

-The animations for weapons and characters look worse than CSS.

-Some weapons are too over-powered.

-The game has post-processing effects that make the game look like ass.

-The new buy menu is horrible.

-Movement and shooting feels floaty.

-There are problems that I am having with with joining servers.


There are more problems with this game, but I think that this is enough.
Let's not forget you can't edit bot servers, you can't select player models, and the server selection sucks.
 

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
I hate it so much.
Yeah, the graphics are great, but that's not why I play valve games.
It's a watered down piece of crap version of CS:S with fancy new map updates, and CoD clone game modes.

The damn thing took away all of the little things I loved about CS, and replaced them with generic CoD crapness.
And plus, the buy system. Mother of fuck does it suck.
Consoles, please stay out of Counter Strike... please?
The only game mode they nicked from cod is gun game...

Hasn't the buying system ALWAYS been in counterstrike?
 

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I say go for it. It plays great on xbox and the options are highly customizable (maybe too much... hotkeys on the controller?) I have only played a little of the past games, and didnt like them too much. For a while it was the same for this one. Then it finally clicked and i found the guns i liked - just before the trial ran out :)

I've experienced little to no lag, and the matchmaking is quite fast (at the moment)

Gun game is great for when you dont want anything TOO intense.

(new comer comment) And unlike SOME 1 life per round shooters (gears ¬_¬) Rounds here only take 2 mins tops, instead of ten. So death isnt as annoying as usual.


Just try the demo. It lets you play what you want (for a meagre 40 mins but ehhh...)
 

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In my opinion, GO is easily the best CS game since 1.6. It's way more fun to play than Source, and doesn't suffer from any of its issues either. Walking no longer feels like floating, the weapon placement is actually where it should be this time around, and Source's gimmicky physics mechanics have been canned completely, and thank fuck for that.
Other pros include the gun animations, which are really satisfying, all the classic maps have been revamped visually, although the layouts are mostly the same, and some long overdue improvements have been made to the buy menu and the score tab, and the way that they work.

There are two major cons to this game, however.
There are a number of visual effects that can't be turned off in-game, and that can hinder your vision on certain maps (most notably the fog on Aztec). There are ways for servers to circumvent that, however, and turn those effects off server-side, so that may not be that big of a problem in the future.

The other major problem with the game is the motherfucking crosshair.
There are two crosshairs that you can choose from: the default one, which looks fine, but that I, and I expect many other players as well, hate the feel of, and there're also the classic one, the one from CS 1.6 and Source. The problem is that the old crosshair looks like absolute garbage in CS:GO's engine. The game has such a stark light and dark contrast, that using a borderless crosshair comprised of a single colour, simply does not work. Depending on the colour you're using, the background will either be too bright or too dark to see the crosshair. Hopefully this will get fixed soon.

All that being said, I'm not sure I'd suggest getting CS:GO on the 360. Maybe I'm subjective, but I really don't think that it's the kind of the game that should be played with a gamepad.
 

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daveman247 said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
I hate it so much.
Yeah, the graphics are great, but that's not why I play valve games.
It's a watered down piece of crap version of CS:S with fancy new map updates, and CoD clone game modes.

The damn thing took away all of the little things I loved about CS, and replaced them with generic CoD crapness.
And plus, the buy system. Mother of fuck does it suck.
Consoles, please stay out of Counter Strike... please?
The only game mode they nicked from cod is gun game...

Hasn't the buying system ALWAYS been in counterstrike?
I'm speaking of the new modes.
I know the buy system has always been in Counterstrike, it's just I hate the console redisign for it, it was made for a controler, I play in the dark, and never memorized the number keys, so I point and click for it, and the console based one makes it so slow, and confusing.
 

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
I'm speaking of the new modes.
I know the buy system has always been in Counterstrike, it's just I hate the console redisign for it, it was made for a controler, I play in the dark, and never memorized the number keys, so I point and click for it, and the console based one makes it so slow, and confusing.
Gun games great, besides, you can just avoid it :)

And im sure the buy menu is fine once you get used to it.
 

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I'm seriously hoping there'll be a way to segregate PC and PS3 players. Then the gamepad vs Keyboard and mouse debate can finally be resolved.

Plus, I wouldn't much fancy being stuck on a team of 4 ps3 gamers against a full team of pc gamers.
 

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daveman247 said:
The only game mode they nicked from cod is gun game...
CORRECTION: CoD nicked gun game from Counter Strike.

It was originally a server mod for the CS games and has existed for a long, looooonngg, llooooooonnnnngggggg while before Black Ops decided to include it in a CoD game.
 

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Spitfire said:
All that being said, I'm not sure I'd suggest getting CS:GO on the 360. Maybe I'm subjective, but I really don't think that it's the kind of the game that should be played with a gamepad.
Spitfire said:
I never claimed that it didn't.

... o_O