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"UFO Ultramaiden Valkyrie"

Is this anime good? The name is amazing and I hope the anime itself is just as amazing as the name.
 

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English Dubs of Ghost Stories and Shin-Chan... good stuff. Though, many of the jokes are horribly dated by now. Particularly any jabs at conservatives. I wish they'd do more of those, original Japanese with subs + goofy English dubs.

Pani Poni Dash! was an absolute gem though.
 

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
I wonder how much the dub for Blood Plus cost Animax. Had to be pricy. Though I hear the NGE cost was near five million, which seems insane.

On that note, as a MASSIVE English dub fan (excepting 4kids, obviously):

Monica Rial (Katsuragi) was great
Tiffany Grant (Asuka) was okay
Spike Spencer (Shinji) is terrible in all his roles. He's like the Michael Cera of voice acting.
Amanda Winn Lee (Rei) was the voice director's wife. That said, she was okay.
Given that when they started dubbing Evangelion they couldn't quite find the right voice from an actress, he performed what he did as best he could. Some of the stories I heard involved him losing his voice on several occasions, because he had to do so many takes where the volume exchange in a single scene was so great the microphone gave out. Given the technology that was out when they first started dubbing, Evangelion was heralded for it's almost universally amazing voice acting.

Tristan MacAvery(Gendo), was also one of the execs for at least Evangelion, and a story(that I can't verify as it was friend of a friend) was about halfway through the series, he would show up to work cosplaying as Gendo.

One of the jokes about Amanda Winn Lee is that she got the role so she would finally shut up for a while.
 

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Yay, more shows for me to watch on Funimation's website. This is a good thing. But wait, didn't this happen like forever ago? I'm pretty certain I've watched some of these shows on Funimation. Is the news just that they finally released information on the costs? Oh well.
 

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"UFO Ultramaiden Valkyrie"

Is this anime good? The name is amazing and I hope the anime itself is just as amazing as the name.
It's a pretty odd little anime and we'll leave it at that, although it does have space battles and a gun that turns people into cat girls.
 

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vxicepickxv said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
I wonder how much the dub for Blood Plus cost Animax. Had to be pricy. Though I hear the NGE cost was near five million, which seems insane.

On that note, as a MASSIVE English dub fan (excepting 4kids, obviously):

Monica Rial (Katsuragi) was great
Tiffany Grant (Asuka) was okay
Spike Spencer (Shinji) is terrible in all his roles. He's like the Michael Cera of voice acting.
Amanda Winn Lee (Rei) was the voice director's wife. That said, she was okay.
Given that when they started dubbing Evangelion they couldn't quite find the right voice from an actress, he performed what he did as best he could. Some of the stories I heard involved him losing his voice on several occasions, because he had to do so many takes where the volume exchange in a single scene was so great the microphone gave out. Given the technology that was out when they first started dubbing, Evangelion was heralded for it's almost universally amazing voice acting.

Tristan MacAvery(Gendo), was also one of the execs for at least Evangelion, and a story(that I can't verify as it was friend of a friend) was about halfway through the series, he would show up to work cosplaying as Gendo.

One of the jokes about Amanda Winn Lee is that she got the role so she would finally shut up for a while.
Man, Amanda Winn Lee could talk for her country: that lady is a fucking chatterbox. Sounds great fun on the Audio commentary for End of Evangelion but putting up with it day in and day out at work would probably kill me after a while.
 

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DanDeFool said:
Holy shit! $780,000 for Air Gear? What a rip-off!
That seriously made me balk, what kind of terrible deals are these people making.

It doesn't surprise me though honestly, I feel really awful for the anime dubbing Industry, especially now that there are some really great ones so I try to at least buy the DVDs when I have the cash.
 

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Grey Carter said:
Those of you who wait (and wait) for licensed anime
...and wait and wait and wait...

Grey Carter said:
Taking over after Manga Entertainment [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svlt2cJI5So] began to sink into obscurity, ADV dominated the western anime market for nearly a decade.
Manga Entertainment is still quite alive in the UK and it is a big player for Europe.


Grey Carter said:
Guyver 746,665

... seems a touch excessive, as does the $725,665 paid for the 2005's forgettable Guyver remake.
Forgettable? The original Guyver was pretty well known, at least among the 'Akira generation'. It was unfortunate the original series was never finished. But it was good they remade the series.
[nitpick]Also, $746,665 $725,665[/nitpick]

Grey Carter said:
but I guess those terrible dubs don't produce themselves.
There, I fixed it for you!

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I am a bit displeased about the current state of anime licensing in US. With the exception of a number of popular tiles, a lot of anime take way too long to get released in the US; some even take years. I can understand there is a delay because anime needs to be licensed fist and then dubbed. But I am not watching dubs, ever. So for people that watch subs, they have to wait longer and pay more, without getting anything in return. I can remember the first release of Gurren Lagann which didn't have dubs. Can't there be more dual releases like this? One release with dubs and a cheaper one without? I guess it is too much work or not profitable enough. Meh.

Also, the only reason that anime is so expensive, is because it's a niche market / not mainstream?? If studios try to charge the same amount of money for mainstream TV series, not many people are going to buy it. So why is it acceptable for anime? Maybe because anime fans are more dedicated?
 

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Ghengis John said:
Excel Saga's dub was a form of audio torture.
Heh. I'm another "prefers subs but will acknowledge the occasional superior dub" person, and for some reason Excel Saga/Puni Puni Poemi came to mind while reading this thread as something that had particularly grated on me. I'm not sure why, but I watched some of the special features and found myself approving of or at least understanding some of their translation/style decisions, but sweet Jebus, those voices...
 

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Jove said:
I never heard of any of these. How about some worth while animes like death note, code goess, bleach, etc, how much did those animes cost to make?
In that case you should really check out Welcome To The N.H.K. It's worth while.
 

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Grey Carter said:
chaosyoshimage said:
Not all dubs are bad, these days most of them are pretty good actually. I don't think I could watch Baccano! in Japanese to be honest...
The Japanese dub is excellent, particularly Isaac and Miria.
Thing is; it ain't a Japanese, or even an ambiguous setting where it doesn't really matter where you are. I couldn't imagine watching Steamboy with Japanese voices for example, British ones just sound better when the movie is set in England.

It also has Patrick Stewart, so yeah.
 

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Jove said:
I never heard of any of these. How about some worth while animes like death note, code goess, bleach, etc, how much did those animes cost to make?
If you haven't heard of them, that doesn't automatically mean they aren't worth while.
 

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Cowabungaa said:
Grey Carter said:
chaosyoshimage said:
Not all dubs are bad, these days most of them are pretty good actually. I don't think I could watch Baccano! in Japanese to be honest...
The Japanese dub is excellent, particularly Isaac and Miria.
Thing is; it ain't a Japanese, or even an ambiguous setting where it doesn't really matter where you are. I couldn't imagine watching Steamboy with Japanese voices for example, British ones just sound better when the movie is set in England.

It also has Patrick Stewart, so yeah.
I disagree, to me, the fact that it's so obviously an anime, done in an anime art style, with anime tropes in the plot, and an anime intro at the beginning, makes it an "animeland" setting first, and culturally english a distant seond.

Whenever I hear an english anime dub, I can't help but visualize real-life american voice actors standing around microphones and reading lines. Even if the same voice quality would be OK for Hollywood movie, there is something "off" about anime characters in "animeland" having them.

It's not just the language itself, but the tone, and the accent, how japanese voice actors sound appropriately cartoonish, that really fits these characters, but american voice actors sound like real people, that breaks the style.

For example, there is Haruhi. Everyone is praising it as one of the better dubs, but I just can't get the fact that Wendee Lee sounds like a WOMAN, and not like an ANIME GIRL.

I don't really get why they insist on this style for them, many western cartoons also have cartoonish voices, but then, the very same actors drop the cartoon accent when they are doing anime.
 

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So am i the only one that wants to watch Dragon Half thanks to his Article? XD

So thats not a lot of money to get them licenses, at the least individually. No wonder y the majority of them have terrible terrible dubs. If thats the kind of money they spend on them, english VA must work for peanuts >.<
 

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Alterego-X said:
For example, there is Haruhi. Everyone is praising it as one of the better dubs, but I just can't get the fact that Wendee Lee sounds like a WOMAN, and not like an ANIME GIRL.
Not to mention Wendee Lee is almost 52 years old, while she needs to voice a 17 year old girl. I guess it comes easier for Japanese women to act like girls. I have 'seen' a Japanese voice actor (around 23 years old) voicing a 5 year old girl quite successfully.

I agree about what you are saying. Some things/shows just can not be dubbed without losing a lot in the process.
 

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Not to mention Wendee Lee is almost 52 years old, while she needs to voice a 17 year old girl. I guess it comes easier for Japanese women to act like girls.
It isn't about race, it's about the quality of the voice actor and what sort of range they have. Last time I checked this man isn't a rabbit, but lord knows he sounds like one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWjVZoSABoY&list=FLV_4_xllsnWIbXWJAmDgqQQ&feature=mh_lolz

I'm also kind of shocked about Air Gear. I tried to watch a few episodes of that anime, and dear lord that was bad.
 

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That is a lot of money.

Funimation is awful. Their dubs are shit and they modifiy the original show. I don't want that at all. I just want the original DVDs/BLU Ray with good subtitles. Don't even bother dubbing it because that costs money.

IMO Fansubs are superior, and it's sad that they are.

edit: Also, I can't believe anyone would pay money for Air Gear. It was a show about fanservice. The plot just flopped around and went nowhere.
 

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All the more reason it should be based off whatever profit(like 60% after a profit is made) is made rather than an arbatarty up front price that just stagnates distribution.
 

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edit: Also, I can't believe anyone would pay money for Air Gear. It was a show about fanservice. The plot just flopped around and went nowhere.
A lot of shows are (just) about fanservice; some better than Air Gear, some worse than Air Gear and still all of them got licensed. *cough* Ikkitousen *cough* Quality is not a factor. Quality is subjective.

Some people had rather seen the money used for Air Gear to be put to better use. But that [logic] can be applied to every anime.