Cowboy Bebop
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It was an excellent show. Highly memorable.
Unfortunately, like most anime, it had what felt to be an extremely rushed ending. It's as though the production company keeps churning out episodes, and then is utterly SHOCKED when notified that their show will end after 26 episodes (which is one of the standard runs for an anime), and as a result, put together an ending that disappoints.
Unfortunately, like most anime, it had what felt to be an extremely rushed ending. It's as though the production company keeps churning out episodes, and then is utterly SHOCKED when notified that their show will end after 26 episodes (which is one of the standard runs for an anime), and as a result, put together an ending that disappoints.
I enjoyed a great deal of Samurai Champloo. I'd say it's biggest problem was attempting to force an emotional experience out of each episode. The comments here in general I think have been dead on, I could agree with many of you as to why CB hit that sweet spot.
I'll definately try to take a look at some of the other shows recommended here.
Trigun I really enjoyed, and GitS:SAC I unfortunately dropped out of and Fullmetal I've seen a few episodes of, liked, then promptly dropped out of during their 42nd attempt to find the Philosopher's Stone and the 103rd lamentation over causing his brother's near death for messing with the laws of alchemy.
Tell me though, who has seen Noir, and what did they think of it?
Personally, I thought it had a lot of potential, but was just SO damn confusing and then depressing as hell.
CB could bring you down, but it always managed to bring you up with Ed and Ein's antics or a great plot twist or action sequence. The characters, even the ones that were never seen outside of a single episode were well crafted and had depth.
Don't forget to clean out your fridges!
I'll definately try to take a look at some of the other shows recommended here.
Trigun I really enjoyed, and GitS:SAC I unfortunately dropped out of and Fullmetal I've seen a few episodes of, liked, then promptly dropped out of during their 42nd attempt to find the Philosopher's Stone and the 103rd lamentation over causing his brother's near death for messing with the laws of alchemy.
Tell me though, who has seen Noir, and what did they think of it?
Personally, I thought it had a lot of potential, but was just SO damn confusing and then depressing as hell.
CB could bring you down, but it always managed to bring you up with Ed and Ein's antics or a great plot twist or action sequence. The characters, even the ones that were never seen outside of a single episode were well crafted and had depth.
Don't forget to clean out your fridges!
I read the wikipedia on it. Is it really that awesome, or is it as 80serrific as it appears?Arbre said:
"80serrific"? 
Well, I could tell you that as a child, it was awesome. A golden age of anime, the 80s were.
It had some of the most touching moments I ever experienced, all productions considered.
For a show globally aimed at the childs, some of the stories were definitively as dark as some of Ghibli's productions.
These days, such episodes might be seen as a bit too hard for kids, yet it didn't turn entire generations into sociopaths.
Something like more than 50 episodes were planned. Only more than two dozens got made.
I've read on a fansite, a while back, that even a live action adaptation for the big screen was also planned at some point, with involved somehow, but the project remained in limbo.
It basically did what the likes of Stargate [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate], Ilium [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilium_%28novel%29], The Scourge of the Gods [http://www.mangin.tv/chroniques/fleau.html] and The Last Trojan [http://www.mangin.tv/chroniques/troyen.html] did, only two decades before them.
I loved the character art, just as much as the ship herself. Kickass.
If there's one thing for sure, it's that there's no way my kids will miss that show.
And the OSTs... some of the best stuff, a mix of rock, epic, disco and funk. You just have to try it.
Or, at least, listen to the opening theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TxatvPjdko (french version, the sound is better, but you can listen to it in its english version here [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TxatvPjdko]).
While we at it, you may look around to grab copies of some of Laloux' films, namely, Gandahar [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095525/] (called Light Years for the english market, Asimov did the translations) and Time Masters [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084315/]. The ending of this last one in particular will completely shatter you.
Both were great adaptations of books.
Well, I could tell you that as a child, it was awesome. A golden age of anime, the 80s were.
It had some of the most touching moments I ever experienced, all productions considered.
For a show globally aimed at the childs, some of the stories were definitively as dark as some of Ghibli's productions.
These days, such episodes might be seen as a bit too hard for kids, yet it didn't turn entire generations into sociopaths.
Something like more than 50 episodes were planned. Only more than two dozens got made.
I've read on a fansite, a while back, that even a live action adaptation for the big screen was also planned at some point, with involved somehow, but the project remained in limbo.
It basically did what the likes of Stargate [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate], Ilium [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilium_%28novel%29], The Scourge of the Gods [http://www.mangin.tv/chroniques/fleau.html] and The Last Trojan [http://www.mangin.tv/chroniques/troyen.html] did, only two decades before them.
I loved the character art, just as much as the ship herself. Kickass.
If there's one thing for sure, it's that there's no way my kids will miss that show.
And the OSTs... some of the best stuff, a mix of rock, epic, disco and funk. You just have to try it.
Or, at least, listen to the opening theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TxatvPjdko (french version, the sound is better, but you can listen to it in its english version here [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TxatvPjdko]).
While we at it, you may look around to grab copies of some of Laloux' films, namely, Gandahar [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095525/] (called Light Years for the english market, Asimov did the translations) and Time Masters [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084315/]. The ending of this last one in particular will completely shatter you.
Both were great adaptations of books.
I used to really love anime back in middle and high school, but once I hit College I started to get tired of it. I think it hit when someone recommended "Stelvia of the Universe" and I hit the episode where all the little girls were in the same room crying together. Well, specifically, that's when my hatred of the show hit me, but my distaste for anime came after.
The thing is, most anime is similar to most Western television: cheap, unoriginal ideas being copied off of one another.
Cowboy Bebop, however, is one of the few that I watch and can say "man, this is a great television show". It doesn't come off to me as anime at all, but as its own thing. It isn't full of stereotypes, the characters are enjoyable, and overall, the show is just well written.
If you enjoy Cowboy Bebop, I HIGHLY recommend Trigun, though I'd watch the sub. I heard the voice acting, and it just didn't have nearly enough spirit.
Other anime, though they aren't as non-cliche, I enjoy are Full Metal Alchemist, Princess Mononoke, Vision of Escaflowne (it gets good after the first horrible ten or fifteen minutes) and Akira.
The thing is, most anime is similar to most Western television: cheap, unoriginal ideas being copied off of one another.
Cowboy Bebop, however, is one of the few that I watch and can say "man, this is a great television show". It doesn't come off to me as anime at all, but as its own thing. It isn't full of stereotypes, the characters are enjoyable, and overall, the show is just well written.
If you enjoy Cowboy Bebop, I HIGHLY recommend Trigun, though I'd watch the sub. I heard the voice acting, and it just didn't have nearly enough spirit.
Other anime, though they aren't as non-cliche, I enjoy are Full Metal Alchemist, Princess Mononoke, Vision of Escaflowne (it gets good after the first horrible ten or fifteen minutes) and Akira.
Agreed. It is, bar none, the best anime ever created IMO and has more diversity than any "real" shows i've seen, not to mention its kickass music and artwork.mobilesworking said:
Plus, it's one of the only animes better in english.
Geoffrey42 said:
GANTZ. It's one of the oddest (outside of Furi Kuri aka FLCL - definitely the oddest thing ever now and forever), most original series I've seen. Shame it was canceled after only two seasons, as you don't even get any history or info about the GANTZ till the 82nd comic (manga). One word of warning, it is both extremely sexual and ultra-violent. There is nothing they won't show save for all out H-scenes. That was the major reason for the cancellation, even in a 2-4AM time block it was too extreme for Japanese TV. Worth checking out if you're up for something unique.
Here's a run down of the manga and anime - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gantz
I now watch only Bebop because I have no time to sift through a mound of refuse to find another gem.
That said, I heard somewhere that the bebop characters are more real than characters in other animes. We are the jilted lover, we are the child in a brave new world, we are all running from our past. And so bebop resonates. I'm sure that's all a matter of opinion, but how do other shows do with that kind of character formation?
My biggest mystery in the whole series is the genesis of the finger point and "bang" from Sympathy for the Devil and The Real Fold Blues Pt2. I see it other places, so it's not original. Can someone direct me to that archetype?
That said, I heard somewhere that the bebop characters are more real than characters in other animes. We are the jilted lover, we are the child in a brave new world, we are all running from our past. And so bebop resonates. I'm sure that's all a matter of opinion, but how do other shows do with that kind of character formation?
My biggest mystery in the whole series is the genesis of the finger point and "bang" from Sympathy for the Devil and The Real Fold Blues Pt2. I see it other places, so it's not original. Can someone direct me to that archetype?
then you need to get off your ass and see it my friend, cause it's an experience you will never forget.contraman said:
Evangelion has always been my favorite anime, with Bebop right on its heels for second. third goes back and forth between Outlaw Star and Trigun.
Samurai Champloo is really good too, though i haven't seen the whole series. Hellsing is a classic as is Ghost in the Shell:SAC, though i sometimes loose interest in SAC cause of the incessant talking. but i wish i didn't, cause its a really good series.
as for games from these animes, of course they fall into shittiness as soon as you push "Start Game" cause you can't turn stories like these into interactive adventures. there is too much that is instantly lost in the transition.
but horray for good anime, and may these glories ones mentioned live on for many future generations to enjoy.
Just like all game adaptations of American movies/ TV shows.Arbre said:
I love Cowboy Bebop. It would be my favorite anime if I didn't love Evangelion so much. (cuz I'm a masochistic freak like that.) You know something is good if every time you watch it you notice something new, both Cowboy Bebop and Evangelion fall into this category for me
Cowboy Bebop is indeed a grand show. I'm also a big Ghost in the Shell fan, although it doesn't quite hold up to the original manga, in my opinion. Same with Akira... Do yourself a favor and read all six volumes of Akira. It's simply fantastic.
I suppose I need to watch more of the recommended anime shows out there. However, I did happen to watch all six episodes of FLCL, which I found to be amazing. It's one of those shows that you either love, or absolutely hate, tragically, so I've had difficulty introducing my friends to it... *sigh*
I suppose I need to watch more of the recommended anime shows out there. However, I did happen to watch all six episodes of FLCL, which I found to be amazing. It's one of those shows that you either love, or absolutely hate, tragically, so I've had difficulty introducing my friends to it... *sigh*
No, I completely forgot about Cowboy Bebop OMG! *points to avi image sarcastically*
There are plenty better anime out there, but GITS, Cowboy and Trigun are great gateway drugs...I mean...shows into the wider range of anime besides what fucking 4Kids and Shonen Jump put out. Now go pick up a copy of Genshiken [comedy], Gankutsuou or Sai Kano [sci-fi action drama {+Romance for SaiKano}], Haibane [fantasy drama ], or King of Bandits Jing or Excel Saga [Action comedy]. And by pick up a copy I mean "Check out on Youtube".
EDIT: And TeaParty, you can't really blame Akira for being like that. It's a feature film over a ton of books made in the EIGHTIES! For a retro anime movie, it's pretty good. Still, you are totally right, the books are obviously better than the movie, like in most cases.
Oh, and if you can't get into anything outside of the CB realm, then watch Samurai Champloo and GunXSword. [GunXSword hasn't been translated yet, but there are a TON of great fansubs out there for it.]
There are plenty better anime out there, but GITS, Cowboy and Trigun are great gateway drugs...I mean...shows into the wider range of anime besides what fucking 4Kids and Shonen Jump put out. Now go pick up a copy of Genshiken [comedy], Gankutsuou or Sai Kano [sci-fi action drama {+Romance for SaiKano}], Haibane [fantasy drama ], or King of Bandits Jing or Excel Saga [Action comedy]. And by pick up a copy I mean "Check out on Youtube".
EDIT: And TeaParty, you can't really blame Akira for being like that. It's a feature film over a ton of books made in the EIGHTIES! For a retro anime movie, it's pretty good. Still, you are totally right, the books are obviously better than the movie, like in most cases.
Oh, and if you can't get into anything outside of the CB realm, then watch Samurai Champloo and GunXSword. [GunXSword hasn't been translated yet, but there are a TON of great fansubs out there for it.]
i'm not an Anime fan by any means but i LOVE Bebop. it's the only Anime i will go out of my way to watch. i haven't seen anything else like it.
Never really seen the series of Cowboy Bebop, watched the film. It was fun though i didnt feel much attachment to the characters obviously. One day i'll get round to watching all the series.
I Loooove Ghost in the Shell in all its incarnations. The oshii films are abit more philosophical than the series. Noticed some of the grievances people have about the series, it not being accessible if you only watch 1 or 2 episodes. In that case watch all of it!! The laughing man story of the first series is amazing as you see everything unravel.
One i havent seen anyone mention is Ergo Proxy. It can be abit unevenly paced and confusing but its a good watch none-the-less. And an IG productions short everyone should watch when drunk is Dead Leaves!
I Loooove Ghost in the Shell in all its incarnations. The oshii films are abit more philosophical than the series. Noticed some of the grievances people have about the series, it not being accessible if you only watch 1 or 2 episodes. In that case watch all of it!! The laughing man story of the first series is amazing as you see everything unravel.
One i havent seen anyone mention is Ergo Proxy. It can be abit unevenly paced and confusing but its a good watch none-the-less. And an IG productions short everyone should watch when drunk is Dead Leaves!