I use my phone like a computer so space is a must for me. I wasn't too keen on the m8's look at first but after seeing a video review of it, it started to grow on me. I'd still need to see it in person though. I got this thing last September but my carrier sold their wireless devision to Verison so at the end of year, I can cancel my contract with no fees. But still, 5" phones are a pain to use one handed so I'd still prefer a dedicated mp3 player, but apparently no one on Amazon wants to sell me one. The only decent deals are for 4GB mp3 players which is nothingElvis Starburst said:
Crawling Back to Apple
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I have an 8gb iPod nano third gen [http://static.trustedreviews.com/94/8157e0/4072/5598-nanosilverhand.jpg], which I manage with Floola. That lets me add/remove songs to and from any computer without all this iTunes syncing bullshit. It's stable, sturdy, great battery, still works great after 5-6 years now... and I didn't pay a cent for it because I won it in a comp. The only downside is its small storage, but other than that I'd definitely recommend them.
I'm kind of surprised you had such problems with your music tags and whatnot. That was actually my precise fear when I decided to buy a fancy phone (with a mini SD slot) and use it as an MP3 player, but the change was pretty much painless. I mean it took fuckin forever, but it was just a progress bar so I didn't actually have to do much.Elvis Starburst said:
I suppose I've had some issues you've described with work software, but such as life when the company adopts a new program - its not like I could really argue that with the boss once he's already commuted to the five digit price tag.
The reason I had such a pain to deal with is cause the Zip's refresh time was upwards of 30 minutes, so I had to remove most of the tag data on all 188 albums of music I have so I could shave off 10 minutes off that time. Took me all day once x.x Then the Sony E Series decided to read a different tag, the file name if I recall, and threw everything out of order. I wasn't re-tagging everything all over again to fix it. I had everything ready to go on iTunes already, so, I chose the easier option and don't regret it so farEvilRoy said:
I had a cheap MP3 player powered by a AAA battery with a two-line monochrome display that would have all sorts of problems associated with such budget electronics (Loose connections, buttons getting stuck and so on) and then one day I got an iPod Nano (3rd gen) for my birthday and I never had a problem with portable music since then. Several years later I upgraded to a 2nd gen iPod Touch and then a few years after that I bought an iPod Touch 4th gen that I still use to this day.
Jesus Christ, I'm almost afraid to post in here. So much negativity.
Well, I like Apple. Yeah, they're expensive, but they require almost no effort on my part to get things moving, and when I'm walking from place to place, I find the little MacBooks weigh near to nothing and they run quickly and efficiently.
And I like iTunes in the same manner as people like Steam. I can easy and relatively cheap access to the music I like, all the podcasts are in the single place for me to access, and it handles 99% of the work with my iPhone for me.
Well, I like Apple. Yeah, they're expensive, but they require almost no effort on my part to get things moving, and when I'm walking from place to place, I find the little MacBooks weigh near to nothing and they run quickly and efficiently.
And I like iTunes in the same manner as people like Steam. I can easy and relatively cheap access to the music I like, all the podcasts are in the single place for me to access, and it handles 99% of the work with my iPhone for me.
I thought Apple WAS doing MP3 these days. Or DRM-free MP4, which are very similar.Elvis Starburst said:
MP3 players are sort of old news these days, even with new models being made. I myself dropped everything Apple after my Classic crashed on me and went to the Sansa Clip Zip (SD card slot, woo!). Little did I know that I'd spend an entire day trying to use MP3 Tag to fix all of the tags of ever freaking song I had to ensure this thing's refresh time would stay below 30 minutes. After 2 years, 2 Zips and 2 SD cards (Yeah, it burned through 2 of them somehow), I got a new type of MP3 player with internal memory.
Then, all of the data I changed the tags with (Album, Artist, Title, etc) were in the wrong order. Know what that means? Having to go back and fix over 2000 songs worth of music to fix it. I threw up my hands, said "No!" and got an iPod Nano instead. Ugh...[/quote]
This is really strange. I haven't had an MP3 player that did anything other than catalogue the data and give you an artist list since like 2002-2003. It doesn't matter how the tracks are tagged, as far as I have experienced. Maybe this is the realm of cheap MP3 players, but I don't know. And since Android came out, all my MP3 players have effectively been the same, to the point I just use my Samsung Galaxy.
Still, it sounds like the problem was with the line, and you decided to edit things to fit that line. That's not much different from people who adapt to Apple's foibles. I nfact, frm other posts, it looks like you have issues like that.
I wouldn't know. If I include my music library, iTunes takes a day and a half to load up these days. I use it for downloading and burning my mom's audiobooks, and that's about it. However, I don't remember anything in iTunes that was particularly simpler than anything else I used. Nor the store than similar stores.
It seems the prudent thing to do would have been not to use an MP3 player that took forever to index tracks.
I mean, if you love Apple, then rock on. But it seems less like a love of Apple and more bad decisions leading to a return to something.
I used to use Creative, but my Zen got bricked by a firmware update and Creative wanted to charge me to fix it. Fairly exorbitantly, too.Weaver said:
I wish Archos still did high-capacity MP3 players.
My Archos 5 was a 500 GB player which held my full library plus a ton of video.
WITCH! WITCH!Leon Declis said:
....Seriously, though, people don't like Apple. You do. So....I don't particularly get the problem. If they hate you for it, screw 'em. At the same time, they're well within reason to discuss the merits and flaws of a product just as you are.
It was a cheaper one with its own Sansa operating system. Nothing fancy like Android. Thus, yes, its indexing system was terrible. So much so I did have to waste all that time removing tags and fixing them just to keep refresh times below 30 minutes. I blame the MP3 player for that much.Zachary Amaranth said:
It's not that I hate them. Enjoying a music player that is so simple to use after my MP3 experience has given me a small form of respect of sorts (And for me, I have my entire iTunes library ready to go, so getting music onto my Nano required no effort). As for that last bit, yeah... It was a bit out of necessity. It was either spending an entire day trying to sort my tags out AGAIN, and enjoy an MP3 player with no hold button or side volume controls, as well as being an extreme scratch magnet, or go for the Nano. I didn't want to spend way too much on a very high quality MP3 player and wait for weeks for it to ship. I kind of needed a replacement sooner. I don't regret my choice that much though.Zachary Amaranth said:
That's pretty much my feels on the matter~ Save for the like of Apple. Though, I'm certainly feeling a tiny bit better about their music players now, after this mess. Also, I agree, iTunes is pretty sweet once everything is sorted out. Took no effort to work my music into my Nano with it all there. No tags, no BS.Leon Declis said:
I owned an Ipod long long ago. I hated it, and I hated itunes. Then I bought a Zune, I liked it. It was like an Ipod except cheaper, smaller, more sensibly designed, and had a larger screen. Then Microsoft stopped supporting Zunes so I bought an Android phone which I use to this day. I've never once considered going back to Apple, but I'll acknowledge that Apple has been a leading innovator that has paved the way for many of the devices I do own.
I no longer buy dedicated mp3 players. But I bought one early on that wasn't apple.
Worst product ever.
Now my iphone and pandora take care of all my musical needs. With apple, you do get a solid product that rises consistently above the industry standard. I'll never buy the computers, though. HASHTAGPCMASTERRACEPRAISEGABEN
Worst product ever.
Now my iphone and pandora take care of all my musical needs. With apple, you do get a solid product that rises consistently above the industry standard. I'll never buy the computers, though. HASHTAGPCMASTERRACEPRAISEGABEN
As far as music goes, I'm kind of stuck with Apple. I'm a huge Beatles fan, and I've also decided to stop buying CDs. Apple has an exclusive contract for their albums, so it is iTunes or doing without. I'm not even remotely prepared to do without, so Apple it is.
I kind of dislike that, just because I like my things to be as system-agnostic as possible. Most of my music, movies, and books are on Amazon, because I can use them on a Kindle, iPad, PC, or laptop. My movies can be viewed on my mother's Wii or my friend's PS3. I like that set-up, because it means I'm not locked into any particular device. But for music, I'm pretty much stuck with my iPod, because nothing else will let me access the stuff I buy on iTunes. Which isn't the end of the world, but it does bother me a bit.
I kind of dislike that, just because I like my things to be as system-agnostic as possible. Most of my music, movies, and books are on Amazon, because I can use them on a Kindle, iPad, PC, or laptop. My movies can be viewed on my mother's Wii or my friend's PS3. I like that set-up, because it means I'm not locked into any particular device. But for music, I'm pretty much stuck with my iPod, because nothing else will let me access the stuff I buy on iTunes. Which isn't the end of the world, but it does bother me a bit.
Apple really tethers you with the dang iTunes. It's got my whole history wrapped up in that thing and I've kept it all neurotically organized. I use an iPhone because I used to have an iPod, which I got because all other brands just seems to cock up and die. Apples was the first MP3 that really worked for me with minimum hassles, until I wanted to use it for more than besides music, then the other issues showed up...