Creepy Text Theatre with SASHA GREY - Any old excuse to be a dick.

[cleric of the order]

I saw a david bowie shirt and liked it.
Op, my thoughts on the thread is simple, where are the people talking about this. perhaps i should watch the video through to completion but the jist of it is a bunch of hipsters making fun of some morons.
I don't see the point of the rant itself.
The video itself has quite a large amount of thumbs up.
From what i can see the comment chains are either, she's a person (big surprise) and people responding, with yo you are making men look bad gurl.
meta comments saying stuff like yeah, she has sold her body for money, these labels make sense and people with your sentiment slamming down on them.
Or >defending a tramp >shiggidy diggity, see above.
I personally don't care and this whole thing seems to be an internet shit storm based around sex and gender.
But the vast majority seem to share your sentiment So what's the point in ranting about it, people with strict morals that dislike porn still exist, it's nothing new.
A porn star staring in a cheese horror move, nothing new.
You lads and lasses are getting upset over nothing.
And this shit is sort of over dramatic.

 

[Ryan Minns]

I used to think every job deserved the same respect from sex worker to politician but than it occurred to me if all you ever do in life is fuck people for money you don't deserve respect... At least sex workers put effort in!

On a serious note though. That was funny to watch

 

[Rahkshi500]

The sad part is that most of those people condemning her in the comments section have probably wanked off to her videos before. Humanity is a bag of dicks.

Also, I love Sasha. She's fucking hilarious and loves Venture Bros. Best (former) porn star ever.

A most unfortunate thing. It's a big problem in society, which still has a big problem with sex and sexuality. I heard that it can be hard for any woman who worked in the adult industry to get another job outside of it since she might receive scorn from possible employers if they look over her records and past careers and etc.

Weird how I never heard of Sasha Grey before, or at least don't recognize her name.

 

[Fappy]

The sad part is that most of those people condemning her in the comments section have probably wanked off to her videos before. Humanity is a bag of dicks.

Also, I love Sasha. She's fucking hilarious and loves Venture Bros. Best (former) porn star ever.

A most unfortunate thing. It's a big problem in society, which still has a big problem with sex and sexuality. I heard that it can be hard for any woman who worked in the adult industry to get another job outside of it since she might receive scorn from possible employers if they look over her records and past careers and etc.

Weird how I never heard of Sasha Grey before, or at least don't recognize her name.

I first heard of her in college. I was playing WoW and my friend nudged me and said, "Hey, check it out". So I look at his laptop display and what do I see? The best -redacted- GIF ever made.

 

[VanQ]

I'm more distressed that people send texts like this to each other.

Seriously people. What the fuck?

 

[Mad World]

I don't think that they should show her disrespect. She isn't sub-human; it's wrong to call her that. However, are pornstars not technically sluts? Isn't that like an inarguable fact? Or would someone argue that them getting paid changes that? If so, are prostitutes not sluts? Or would "whore" be more technically correct?

Also, if she is indeed a former pornstar, that means that that is no longer who she is.

 

[Daeggreth]

I remember watching that video and reading some of the comment threads close to when it was first uploaded. I can't be arsed to check to see if they're still going (because it's one of the most depressing things I've ever read) but the thing that bothered me most was the sheer number of people deciding that she could never be girlfriend material and that anyone who thought otherwise was 'less of a man'.

Did they have any qualms about fucking her? Of course not -_-

I know I shouldn't be surprised; that kind of misogyny is rampant on the internet, but seeing it all come together in one place was actually pretty upsetting.

 

[Fappy]

I don't think that they should show her disrespect. She isn't sub-human; it's wrong to call her that. However, are pornstars not technically sluts? Isn't that like an inarguable fact? Or would someone argue that them getting paid changes that? If so, are prostitutes not sluts? Or would "whore" be more technically correct?

Also, if she is indeed a former pornstar, that means that that is no longer who she is.

That's kind of like saying, "well isn't he technically a ******" in reference to a gay person. By the literal definition, yes, you would be correct, but it is incredibly rude. She was only a "slut" in the sense that she had frequent sex with multiple partners, but that isn't inherently a bad thing. Using the term "slut" to describe the behavior is implying that it should be frowned upon.

 

[McKinsey]

This kind of disgusting, morally reprehensible mentality is just so wrong, on so many levels. She's a person, and as such deserves the same amount of base human respect as anyone else

Please, excuse me in advance for my bluntness, but I will try to put this in the most simple terms for you.
Basically, you're wrong.

Enjoying the body of someone's work as a porn actor while also thinking low of such a person are two things that can totally happen simultaneously. This is not hypocrisy, this is part of an unspoken social contract: we, the public, allow you, the actor, to earn huge sums of money for doing literally nothing, but in exchange you get to be despised forever for selling your human decency like that. It's actually part of what makes porn so exciting: it's not looking at naked bodies (we've got boyfriends and girlfriends for that,) it's watching people degrade themselves for money.

Bear in mind, it's not like these people don't know what they're getting into. Porn actors and actresses are fully aware of the costs that "porn fame" comes with, but, again, they choose to ignore the society's disdain in order to make that easy dollar. While some would argue that fucking on camera is a job like any other, I'd like to remind you that it's a job that produces nothing of worth (all porn is interchangeable, and nobody would remember Chasey Lane's name now if it weren't for that song,) a job that anyone can do with no prior education, no talent and no skill, and even being pretty or fit isn't a requirement anymore - the only figure of merit is to be able to spread your legs.

In other words, it's a case of "We had a deal that I sell my right to be treated like a normal person, but now that I've got the money, I've changed my mind and want you to act like nothing happened." No can dosville, babydoll.

 

[Terminal Blue]

I think it's pretty understandable really.

A sex worker sells sex for money. In the case of female porn stars, they're selling an exaggerated sexual fantasy to a predominantly male audience. Essentially, and this is controversial wording but deal with it, they're selling the right to objectify them.

But, and this is important, they do so on their own terms. Maybe not fully on their own terms, and there's certainly room for improvement in the industry, but at the end of the day what they are doing is just a job. Porn is to sex what pro-wrestling is to a bar brawl, in other words.. it's fake, and when its over everyone goes home and gets on with their life.

Because of this weird power dynamic, sex work causes a great deal of cognitive dissonance in some of its clients. Sex work is about selling the illusion of sexual access which is completely on the buyers terms, but at the end of the day its just an illusion. That porn actress isn't really some impossibly horny nympho who you could totally get with, she's almost certainly completely out of your league and certainly has a life of her own which doesn't revolve around pleasing you. She pretends otherwise for money because that's literally her job.

Some people find that difficult to deal with, essentially because they're having to buy the illusion of something they feel they should already be entitled to. That creates resentment, it creates feelings of rejection because to the buyer it seems as if an arrangement has been reneged upon. The realization that they bought an illusion and were fooled by it always threatens to reappear, and that's sometimes hard to deal with, but it's easier if you project it onto someone else.

Bear in mind, it's not like these people don't know what they're getting into. Porn actors and actresses are fully aware of the costs that "porn fame" comes with, but, again, they choose to ignore the society's disdain in order to make that easy dollar. While some would argue that fucking on camera is a job like any other, I'd like to remind you that it's a job that produces nothing of worth (all porn is interchangeable, and nobody would remember Chasey Lane's name now if it weren't for that song,) a job that anyone can do with no prior education, no talent and no skill, and even being pretty or fit isn't a requirement anymore - the only figure of merit is to be able to spread your legs.

I see our case study has arrived.

 

[Fappy]

Bear in mind, it's not like these people don't know what they're getting into. Porn actors and actresses are fully aware of the costs that "porn fame" comes with, but, again, they choose to ignore the society's disdain in order to make that easy dollar. While some would argue that fucking on camera is a job like any other, I'd like to remind you that it's a job that produces nothing of worth (all porn is interchangeable, and nobody would remember Chasey Lane's name now if it weren't for that song,) a job that anyone can do with no prior education, no talent and no skill, and even being pretty or fit isn't a requirement anymore - the only figure of merit is to be able to spread your legs.

I see our case study has arrived.

If you posted nine minutes earlier I would have called you a prophet :O

 

[Terminal Blue]

If you posted nine minutes earlier I would have called you a prophet :O

It took me nine minutes to write that post.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Saw that a while ago, didn't read the comments.

Though, yeah, there is a serious problem with the way society views women in the sex industry. Or female sexuality in general.

 

[Smooth Operator]

I think that entire page perfectly describes how many problems people have with sex.
- porn is a complete freak out topic
- anyone seen in porn is forever branded as a bad person
- because people are so starved of sex they will look for it any place with anyone
- and any talk of sex can only ever be creepy

That is just a giant ball of sad comedy.

 

[sanquin]

Most, if not all of those people verbally abusing her are probably hypocrites. As I bet before or after they complained on that vid they looked her up to fap to her porn. I get a feeling like people unconsciously WANT to shun porn stars and such. Because quite a few people will find a dirty secret, even if a self-created one, more of a turn on than something that's widely accepted. In other words, they might -want- to keep such people as porn actors a 'taboo', so it can remain their dirty little secret when they fap to them.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

Huh...never seen any of her "work" outside of a gif on ED (probably be less embarrassing to say it was from watching fucktons of porn). But I do remember that gif because A) Wow...she's flexible and B) She looked like she was genuinely having fun.

I think I said in another thread about a film she was in, maybe she should go back to her original name and ditch the stage name.

Also as an aside, I'm guessing that hard as it is to watch Daniel Radcliffe in anything without seeing Harry Potter a certain section of the audience won't be able to watch her without thinking about her taking it up the butt. Still, maybe keep that to yourself and don't give the relevant actor/tress shit for it.

 

[Ihateregistering1]

Also as an aside, I'm guessing that hard as it is to watch Daniel Radcliffe in anything without seeing Harry Potter a certain section of the audience won't be able to watch her without thinking about her taking it up the butt. Still, maybe keep that to yourself and don't give the relevant actor/tress shit for it.

I see your point on this one. I was watching a movie with a friend of mine one time with Jon Heder (AKA 'Napoleon Dynamite') in it, and he said "no matter how hard I try, I just can't see him as anything except Napoleon Dynamite".

Likewise, Sasha Grey can continue acting, but no matter how good she potentially might be, it's difficult to look at it purely on her current acting merit knowing that you're watching the same person who also starred in "Cum Buckets 8", "Lord of asses 13", and "Meet the Fuckers 7" (among many other hilarious titles).

 

[KaosuHamoni]

-snip-

And yet you've completely glazed over my actual point, and in such spectacular fashion too.

Why is it such an issue that she had sex on camera? Why is there this big stigma surrounding the fact that she could actually be a normal person with real feelings? I honestly can't believe you're condoning the behaviour of those who were, quite honestly, vile.

Sex is just sex. It's a perfectly natural, normal part of life. Jesus, it creates life.

People need to stop getting so uptight over unimportant things.

 

[WaysideMaze]

It's interesting how our society treats sex workers. They're providing a service that many people (including, I imagine, the degenerates calling her out in the comments) are willing to pay for. They shouldn't have to put up with abuse just because some people have issues.

On a hypothetical note, how do you think all those people calling her out would react if tomorrow they were to lose all access to porn forever? Just a thought.