Now when you say "genius", you mean this in the sarcastic sense, yes?
It's so hard to tell on the internet sometimes.
It's so hard to tell on the internet sometimes.
Criminal Genius Seeks Hitman on Facebook
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Just put a bullet in this retards head, I don't want to feed him and pay for his pay-per-view for 25 years.
"Yes but one wouldn't settle down so I had to read them a story."Fappy said:
"Oh so you had to use two...doses to...silence them?"
"Bob, what are you talking about?"
"Oh I'm sorry Susan, I didn't mean to send that to you."
THAT is how a hit like that would go down on Facebook, lol.
That misogynist asshole deserves every day he spends in prison.
On the morosely bright side, it's a good thing his dumb ass posted death threats on Facebook. Although it's a dick move and pretty disturbing, only about fifty percent of rapes are reported and only two to five percent of rapists ever spend a day in jail, so he probably would have stayed on the street otherwise. Our culture just doesn't care about rape.
Hope his victim recovers well.
I'm curious what part of "attempted to hire a hitman to kill his accuser" made your brain go, "That man has been wronged and we should protect him from that evil lying harpy!" - Because personally I don't think threating to kill people is a particularly ingenious way of proving your innocence.
On the morosely bright side, it's a good thing his dumb ass posted death threats on Facebook. Although it's a dick move and pretty disturbing, only about fifty percent of rapes are reported and only two to five percent of rapists ever spend a day in jail, so he probably would have stayed on the street otherwise. Our culture just doesn't care about rape.
Hope his victim recovers well.
Congratulations on sticking up for that rapist. We certainly need more of that in this world.PH3NOmenon said:
I'm curious what part of "attempted to hire a hitman to kill his accuser" made your brain go, "That man has been wronged and we should protect him from that evil lying harpy!" - Because personally I don't think threating to kill people is a particularly ingenious way of proving your innocence.
...Gee, and if he had done it on MySpace, no one might have ever found out about it...
...Waiting for Fox News to find make the connection to video games...
...Apparently he thought it was an antisocial networking site...
...You see where Craigslist is driving the cheap-hit traffic to?...
...Waiting for Fox News to find make the connection to video games...
...Apparently he thought it was an antisocial networking site...
...You see where Craigslist is driving the cheap-hit traffic to?...
Wow. I don't think I can facepalm hard enough for this. What a bright and shining example of youthful intelligence. This would be comedy gold if it wasn't so tragic.
Well, I make jokes like that on Facebook all the time. The main thing was, that he didn't have the common sense to think "Gee, maybe I should delete this girl/change my privacy settings in case she gets the wrong idea". THEN he puts the nail in his coffin by doing it again straight after a police interview.justnotcricket said:
Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Your saying if you got assulted by someone you wouldnt want to know what the hell their doing, not to mention as its a socialising network they might let something slip that would help your case.Eri said:
Im not saying he shouldnt get a fair trial because I know for a cert that if I got accused of rape I would want to kill the liar but by the looks of it this seems to be what it looks like.
Again I dont know, im not there, im just saying id watch the mofo with both eyes WIDE open.
If he is guilty of either of the latter crimes (either attempting to hire a hitman or intimidate or coerce a potential witness), let alone the original rape charge, then the term "pretty steep" couldn't be less appropriate. Is the implication that a decade in jail should be reserved for those physically committing the act of murder? Or should it be reserved just for cases of treason?Andy Chalk said:
This is a very light sentence given the charges and (at least in terms of the way it's presented in the above article) the circumstances of the case. Are we so desensitized as a society that rape and attempts to hire contract killers among young adults are considered funny? This is really disturbing.
Also, to anyone that is still addressing the validity of the "he may just have been joking" and "these kind of jokes happen all the time" argument, let's get specific.
1) An off-hand joke, in a non-specific context such as "so-and-so is awful: if someone hired a hitman, I'd chip in my share", made once and divorced from details or a specific context would be difficult to hold up in court and (in most cases) would just be a dumb remark that should just be ignored.
2) If you made more than one such remark in a public (or even semi-public) online post, you would be crossing a very important line.
3) If you actually made such remarks in a place where the person would be likely to encounter them, then that would be potentially be any number of different forms of illegal intimidation and harassment.
4) If you went beyond that by doing both 2 and 3 and then following it up again in a specific context in reaction to the progression of events, you would have voided any claim to the "it's just a joke" defense and committed a crime.
In other words, if you want to make verbal jokes with your friends that would sound messed up out of context, you can go ahead and (unless your friends start to take them seriously) there shouldn't be any problems. But there's simply no parallel between that and what's been described here.
It's also difficult to believe there's any possibility that the guy could be innocent based on his pattern of behavior in regards to this Facebook incident, but it shouldn't be ruled out entirely. At best, he's completely disturbed and needs to be put in a psychiatric ward for long-term treatment and sensitized to societal norms. At worst, he's a danger to society that needs to be incarcerated for truly heinous crimes.
1) An off-hand joke, in a non-specific context such as "so-and-so is awful: if someone hired a hitman, I'd chip in my share", made once and divorced from details or a specific context would be difficult to hold up in court and (in most cases) would just be a dumb remark that should just be ignored.
2) If you made more than one such remark in a public (or even semi-public) online post, you would be crossing a very important line.
3) If you actually made such remarks in a place where the person would be likely to encounter them, then that would be potentially be any number of different forms of illegal intimidation and harassment.
4) If you went beyond that by doing both 2 and 3 and then following it up again in a specific context in reaction to the progression of events, you would have voided any claim to the "it's just a joke" defense and committed a crime.
In other words, if you want to make verbal jokes with your friends that would sound messed up out of context, you can go ahead and (unless your friends start to take them seriously) there shouldn't be any problems. But there's simply no parallel between that and what's been described here.
It's also difficult to believe there's any possibility that the guy could be innocent based on his pattern of behavior in regards to this Facebook incident, but it shouldn't be ruled out entirely. At best, he's completely disturbed and needs to be put in a psychiatric ward for long-term treatment and sensitized to societal norms. At worst, he's a danger to society that needs to be incarcerated for truly heinous crimes.
'In case she gets the wrong idea'...after you raped her? o_0Desert Tiger said:
What idea is she supposed to get? My argument was not so much against tasteless jokes in general, it was more that this tasteless 'joke', if indeed it was such, was adding substantial insult to an already pretty grievous injury. Which shows not just stupidity, but a dearth of humanity that is breathtaking.
My understanding was that he was accused of raping this girl, not just of making a stupid joke on the internet...? If he was just making a stupid joke, then it was indeed pretty brainless joke, and certainly no-one is denying that whatever else he may be, this guy isn't smart.
However, to come back to what tkioz was asking originally, how *do* you draw a line with things like that? If you make those kind of jokes privately within your circle of friends, you could expect it to come to nothing. If you make them in a public forum, then there's every reason for people to check up on it.
Was any evidence actually put forth that he raped her other than her claiming it? His lawyer has clearly told him "You've fucked up. Admit it and you'll get less time. Don't, and you'll lose and get twice as much." Not saying he's innocent OR guilty, just that I've had past experience with this kind of thing and the law is EXTREMELY sketchy at BEST with this.justnotcricket said:
Also, I make these kind of jokes on Facebook pretty regularly, mainly because I've got a dark sense of humour and because I know all my privacy settings are set to how I want them. I'm not gonna defend him in this respect - he's an idiot.
