Crispy Gamer Calls Out Resident Evil 5's Racism
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You are damn right I don't see any problem with it. If Chris and his buddies were black it would be OK according to the arguement. If they use the N word or one of the white folks says something like "who cares if they are infected, they are black so kill'em all and let God sort them out" then I would be the first one calling for a boycott. Or if there is a KKK robe for an unlockable costume.harhol said:
Is it just me or does everyone come in here not reading the posts and stating the same fucking things over and over and over?
There was a reason they are depicted as subhuman... And that reason happens to be the point of the game entirely. They have been mutated mentally and whatnot. It's not their factual depiction of black people at all...CrispyGamer reviewer said:
Of course they do, they're infected with a mind mutating virus. What do you want them to look like, Michelle Obama?! (In context he was acting like this depiction of them was insulting, yet when it was the white people mutated last time, all was fine)CrispyGamer reviewer said:
So let me get this straight. He's just rambled on about how the infected are all cracked and bloodshot, and now he says the biggest physical contrast is the skin colour? Hypocrite. Of course there will be contrast between hero and villain. Look at Super Mario, his enemy is a giant lizard.CrispyGamer reviewer said:
Actually throwing spears you say? Africans are a proud people, who respect their heritage. They still do the whole tribal thing, out of respect for their past. And the Zulu's etc. still live like that. Like the Aborigines, and the Amish people. What's the difference? Just because we adopted science and abandoned everything our ancestors created, doesn't mean they have. If you're living in Africa, tribal people will be there.CrispyGamer reviewer said:
He used this as a picture caption for Chris. This is where I stopped reading...CrispyGamer reviewer said:
harhol - you are not reading what anyone is saying. It's not white against black! The main character has a partner (right next to him) who is a black woman. He is killing all races... to the point of it being a bit silly. I killed more hispanic and white people than I did black. Sure, their leaders are black but come ON!! It's Africa!!!
NEWSFLASH: There are black people in Africa
NEWSFLASH: There are black people in Africa
It's not intentionally racist. I suspect there was some level of racism in RE4 (which coldstorage seems to confirm). Having a setting in Africa with the way this game was made (the spear chuckers do not count) guaranteed there would be racist moments. Why? Because as someone who once practiced bushido and studied Japan as closely as I could without going there I can tell you they are on of the most naturally racist cultures on the planet. It's nothing like it used to be and we could just be glad RE5 wasn't worse i.e. made by skinheads or another intentionally racist group. And no ColdStorage your remark was not generalized racism. Not overly well put but the Japanese have a xenophobic edge to their traditional culture, more so than many others.ColdStorage said:
mike1921 said:
its funny that the bad guy in RE5 and just about any RE is Albert Whesker, the whitest white guy on earth, his martial arts style is a cross between Savate and Capeoira, which is French and Brazilian, he's blonde... he wears Ray Bans which is American and made famous by Top gun the most Western film in existence, he has an eighty's hair cute reminiscent of western boy bands. And chances are his suit is made by Hugo Boss, which is a new york based fashion company.mike1921 said:
lets recap, the bad guy in RE is
1. called Albert (possibly states his name is Cecil (with a lisp) in gay bars)
2 Has blonde hair
3 looks like a character from Top Gun, the gayest film in existence
4 Does martial arts based from two western countries, gay countries may I add, France and Brazil
So yes RE5 is racist, its racist against gay western poofs, I for one am appalled at its portayal of big gay western boy band members.
edit; I had a point to make but starting giggling to myself about how gay Whesker looks, then kinda ran with my stupidity, I can't remember my original arguement though.
No not really, I'de say: let it go. Fact: skin color does not matter, it's that simple. Our forefathers may have been idiots, but (hopefully) we're not. History is history, let's grow up. This kind of stuff keeps actual racism alive, instead of growing out of it. Let's stop splitting people up like that, and let's just treat black people the same.harhol said:
If you push, they will shove. That's the law aroud this things and there is nothing you can do about it. For me I was under the impertion that,now a day all humans are equal and that no one gets special treatment of persicuted for who they are and where they come frome. So I think the the racisum in RE5 is simpily silly since when you thing about I, all the story of RE come from a virus found in africa.
There just going back to there roots.
There just going back to there roots.
Yes, how dare they portray black zombies as shambling idiots, they should be explaining string theory on a handy projector screen. (Avoided using the word blackboard there, oops!)
For videogames to avoid racism, blacks, gays, disabled people and all other minorities would have to take turns being the bad guy. If we don't do this, the only other option is to set every game in an area where every person is a white able bodied straight male.
I can't help but feel if they'd just set the game in the jungle in the 1920s spear chucking natives with shrunken heads around their neck would be just fine. It'd be seen as 'detached' enough, or just plain ironic.
Surely all we need to do is get Valve to make the Left 4 Dead sequel with only asian zombies? Case solved, we've balanced things.
For videogames to avoid racism, blacks, gays, disabled people and all other minorities would have to take turns being the bad guy. If we don't do this, the only other option is to set every game in an area where every person is a white able bodied straight male.
I can't help but feel if they'd just set the game in the jungle in the 1920s spear chucking natives with shrunken heads around their neck would be just fine. It'd be seen as 'detached' enough, or just plain ironic.
Surely all we need to do is get Valve to make the Left 4 Dead sequel with only asian zombies? Case solved, we've balanced things.
RE5 is racist in the same way Fat Princess is offensive to fat people.
It may not be intentional, but it's sort of there.
In Fat Princess, a fat chick is being treated like a flag to gain points. It looks like great deals of fun, but depending on what context you use, it would objectify and make women look like trophies and prizes to be won. Sure, it may not mean to show that off, but it's a little bit there.
Same thing with RE5, it's a guy shooting up a bunch of crazy people to keep himself from dieing. Then you look a bit closer, it looks like a white guy shooting up black guys. It just depends on what context you look at it from.
Anyone who moans and groans "IT'S JUST A VIDEO GAME!" and "WTF IT'S NOT RACIST!" are all missing the point entirely (and I would totally go on a rant about that right now) as are people who say "IT'S RACIST!" and "THIS SHOULD BE BANNED!" (though to be fair, I've never seen someone say that so far).
Personally, I'm glad we're having these debates and news stories about how RE5 is "racist". Every medium has this sort of debate, and I'm glad we're getting this out of the way. RE5 may not be "racist", per se, but it sure ain't treating Africans in a mature and thoughtful way.
Video games have a long way to go to be considered "art", anyone who bitches and moans that other people are being insensitive because they see this game as a white guy shooting black guys are acting childish and expect everyone to understand perfectly what this game is.
It may not be intentional, but it's sort of there.
In Fat Princess, a fat chick is being treated like a flag to gain points. It looks like great deals of fun, but depending on what context you use, it would objectify and make women look like trophies and prizes to be won. Sure, it may not mean to show that off, but it's a little bit there.
Same thing with RE5, it's a guy shooting up a bunch of crazy people to keep himself from dieing. Then you look a bit closer, it looks like a white guy shooting up black guys. It just depends on what context you look at it from.
Anyone who moans and groans "IT'S JUST A VIDEO GAME!" and "WTF IT'S NOT RACIST!" are all missing the point entirely (and I would totally go on a rant about that right now) as are people who say "IT'S RACIST!" and "THIS SHOULD BE BANNED!" (though to be fair, I've never seen someone say that so far).
Personally, I'm glad we're having these debates and news stories about how RE5 is "racist". Every medium has this sort of debate, and I'm glad we're getting this out of the way. RE5 may not be "racist", per se, but it sure ain't treating Africans in a mature and thoughtful way.
Video games have a long way to go to be considered "art", anyone who bitches and moans that other people are being insensitive because they see this game as a white guy shooting black guys are acting childish and expect everyone to understand perfectly what this game is.
