Critical Miss: Different Creeds

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BehattedWanderer

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Victorian Era England would be prime real estate for a new Creed game...speaking of, my version arrived last night, so I'll be playing it later. Nice to know that it's Oh so very good.
 

Mr Companion

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Missing SHODAN said:
I was more excited by Victorian England Assassin's Creed. Top hats improve everything.
Me too, I would love to have a game set more close to home, and being a fan of silly hats the period costumes would be funny too :D.
 

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for shame this CM made me snort really loudly at work, I've never snorted while laughing before.
 

Lullabye

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OMFG how cool would it be to go toe to toe with some of Victorian Europe's finest? Like Sherlock Holmes(yes, fictional, but come on...) or even Moriarty. Maybe hopefully Jack the Ripper.
Maybe even you play as Jack the Ripper?
He was actually an assassin, and the reason for the assassinations were known only to him and, well, Desmond.
 

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Darkstrike_11 said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Sorry to be a buzzkill. I actually really dig the story of the "present day" sections of Assassin's Creed more than the story within the Animus sessions. Including checking e-mail.
This I cannot understand. For me Assassin's Creed 2 was nearly the perfect game. The one thing that keeps the series from achieving true perfection is the STUPID STUPID present day storyline.

[SPOILERS}

The second game had a brilliant story of growing up, betrayal, revenge and knowledge. It could so so easily have stood alone (as could the first in terms of gameplay), yet they felt the need to chuck a stupid magical conspiracy behind it. I was truly disappointed that after a game which has a brilliant personal story, as well as a beutifully crafted hugely historically accurate game world, the ending basically says "yeah Ezio is not important. Also say hi to a god, turns out theres a magical conspiracy going on"

Both games have pulled off this marvelous personal story and immersive world, then let an awful connecting story undermine everything you achieve in order to obtain it.

just sayin'
I agree completely, especially about AC2's story. Everything after the fist fight with the Pope (greatest boss fight ever, by the way) was just awful. The magic rock's powers are vaguely established, it's origin is nonsensical, and it's little more than a glowing deus ex machina.

In the words of Yahtzee, no one likes Future Desmond!
 

The Wooster

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Darkstrike_11 said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Sorry to be a buzzkill. I actually really dig the story of the "present day" sections of Assassin's Creed more than the story within the Animus sessions. Including checking e-mail.
This I cannot understand. For me Assassin's Creed 2 was nearly the perfect game. The one thing that keeps the series from achieving true perfection is the STUPID STUPID present day storyline.

[SPOILERS}

The second game had a brilliant story of growing up, betrayal, revenge and knowledge. It could so so easily have stood alone (as could the first in terms of gameplay), yet they felt the need to chuck a stupid magical conspiracy behind it. I was truly disappointed that after a game which has a brilliant personal story, as well as a beutifully crafted hugely historically accurate game world, the ending basically says "yeah Ezio is not important. Also say hi to a god, turns out theres a magical conspiracy going on"

Both games have pulled off this marvelous personal story and immersive world, then let an awful connecting story undermine everything you achieve in order to obtain it.

just sayin'
As bullshit as I found their use of good ol' destiny I found the part in which Ezio finds out he's essentially inconsequential was brilliantly done. Having the hologram scold him as he stammers and demands answers was a harsh, but well written, moment.

I quite like the future segments too. Mostly because they give you a tiny glimpse of the world Desmond lives in. The fact you could just not quite make out of the buildings outside the window in AC1 was tantalising in the extreme.
 

Jabberwock xeno

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I still think that the original plan for AC2 taking place in the Mayan empire in pre-columbian america would have been cooler.
 

theSovietConnection

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Evilsanta said:
Holy mackarel! I never thought of that, We need Ubisoft to make a Assassins Creed in space!
I have a better idea, let's get another Star Wars: Bounty Hunter game instead?

I'd love an Assassin's Creed set in the 17-1800s, though.
 

Fidelias

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I just can't wait until we get to play as Desmond and assassinate people in the modern era, but I'm worried it's going to become too much like Splinter Cell...
 

The Wooster

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Fidelias said:
I just can't wait until we get to play as Desmond and assassinate people in the modern era, but I'm worried it's going to become too much like Splinter Cell...
Actually. When you think about it Splinter Cell and AC have a lot in common from a production standpoint.

Both are by Ubisoft.
Both had fairly flawed original games.
Both had improved sequels.
Both had a third game that blew the rest of the series away.

By that logic, the next Assassin's Creed game will be a buggy, impossible to run, mess and it's a sad decline into mediocre shooter obscurity after that.

:(
 

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dfcrackhead said:
zHellas said:
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Oooh... And Jack the Ripper is like a rogue assassin that you have to kill!
Or you ARE J the R, that would be an interesting twist... so won't be done!
I thought that too, but didn't bother to edit and put that in because someone would have thought of it already.
Only problem with playing as Jack The Ripper, he wasn't so much an assassin, just a twisted guy who killed hookers and took apart their insides, and even though I know we all kill the hookers in GTA so we can get our money back, I think something like that would cause a lot of controversy and also, not make a very good game, especially considering I think Jack only killed like 4 or 5 people.
You must have missed Operation Darkness. Jack the Ripper was reformed and added to the ranks of an elite Allied special forces group in WW2 otherwise made up of two werewolves, a fire-starter, and some noobs on a secret mission to assassinate Hitler. He and Eliza Van Helsing were the bladed weapon experts even as everyone else used guns. Including the big English werewolf; he was good with assault rifles.
It's history. You can't deny it.

Lullabye said:
OMFG how cool would it be to go toe to toe with some of Victorian Europe's finest? Like Sherlock Holmes(yes, fictional, but come on...) or even Moriarty. Maybe hopefully Jack the Ripper.
Maybe even you play as Jack the Ripper?
He was actually an assassin, and the reason for the assassinations were known only to him and, well, Desmond.
Having recently read League of Extraordinary Gentleman: Century: 1910 (Attack of the Colon, like that time I ate a Big Mac), Jack's story was an all-singing rippapalooza. I can just imagine the jaunty musical numbers with Sukey Tawdry.
 

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...I still think the next game should be set in Post World war 1 russia going into communist Russia (Those who know modern history will be aware of the instability of Russia at this point). In other words, the perfect setting..and as russia was rather backwards in this age, it's not inappropriate to still run around with daggers, swords, assasination blade, etc.
 

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Wuvlycuddles said:
Victorian England? Pffff, gimme Assassins Vs Ninjas in feudal Japan and i'll be a happy boy.
sorry to burst you bubble of awesomeness but ninjas are assassins and assassins creed is probably more true to ninjas (they do this cool stuff)
brotherhood of the assassins is not real while ninjas are =D
 

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KEM10 said:
broken-serenity said:
I'd like one set during the french revolution so we can do abit of scarelt pimpernelling around paris and shit :)
Oooo, I like that one. This could be the turning point of of the brotherhood where they realize the power of mob rule and end up forming the crowd to storm the Bastille.
Thirded. Sure Victorian London would be awesome. But if I were a French developer based in Paris I'd certainly want my history spanning epic to include the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars.

Although in addition to Victorian England and Revolutionary France I think I might also like to see: Tudor England, Revolutionary America and Reformation Germany.

Admittedly I'm not sure that some of those would work. Revolutionary America would probably have some boring architecture and I'm not entirely sure how Reformation Germany would work out.
 

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Missing SHODAN said:
I was more excited by Victorian England Assassin's Creed. Top hats improve everything.
We'll just incorporate top hats into the standard astronaut suit.
 

A Weary Exile

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Two words. French Revolution.

There is so much potential for cool crap to do there, from overthrowing the monarchy to surviving the Reign of Terror, maybe you get to kill Jean-paul Marat. The climax of the game could be an attempted assassination of Napoleon, maybe even sabotaging his forces at Waterloo?
 

Gralian

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Why set it the same place twice? Because the game came out a year after the second game, making it a glorified expansion pack. HURR HURR

But seriously though, assuming they continue the story after Brotherhood (i haven't played it yet but will do shortly) then i'm sure it'll change time zones... probably to the present day, seeing as how we've got all this build-up with Desmond. The biggest problem i'm seeing though is how they're going to fit knives and swords into the future, when silenced handguns are probably really the only way to go when the enemy has machineguns, armour and god knows what else. I would like to see a Victorian-era Assassin's Creed setting though!