FalloutJack said:
Lemme address this in order, starting with "I don't have anything against computers as a gaming medium.". I use one, although it is not may favorite means of play. So, if there is some way you construe this as an attack, that you should feel personally offended, don't.
I'm not offended.
Now then, consoles with features that are there to make them act like computers are an irrelevent detail for the reason you just stated: They're bad at it. It's just a tacked-on, non-central feature, like rolling your sandwich in bacon. Tastes good, but not good FOR you. We can drop the comparisons on that front because they're unimportant. They're not what consoles are FOR. Now, computers are for LOTS of things. That's why they cost a buttload of money. You paid more for your computer, definitely, because - even if it were a gaming computer - it is also going to be able to do any professional work, surf the net, download various things, and so on. This is what it's meant for. A gamming console has one ACTUAL true function: To play games. It is STRICTLY an entertainment device. Even if you play your CDs, MP3s, movies, and other things on it OR even try to use the net, it is all for entertainment and nothing else. You with me so far?
Umm, no pricing isn't that different here than anywhere else, except maybe out of the way countries where it's hard to find anywhere to buy a computer. www.ncix.com is the website where I procure my parts, and even the parts I bought on sale on there are only like $5 more expensive not on sale, I'm not shitting you it cost me $400 including shipping and shipping insurance, that's not a buttload of money.
Consoles are not computers in a box. They don't function that way, they do not have that format, and not everything they do even in THIS AGE is interchangeable...save for PERHAPS the X-Box because it's fucking Microsoft. Nintendo and Sony don't have a basis in PCs, so that wouldn't happen. They're not the same, AND they're not built the same. Also, I'm not sure if there's a difference in pricing in Canada, but a good computer to 'outpace' a console doesn't cost $400. Or if it does, it must be nice to live in Canada, but that isn't how things are south of you. (Alternatively, you managed to cut a VERY good and uncommon deal.) Consoles cost less than the kinds of computers you would need for Skyrim, I think.
You don't know how consoles work do you? That hardware in the console there, is a computer, the parts in an xbox 360, are 6 year old pc parts, sony is involved in the pc world, as you probably don't know, their whole Vaio product line, includes laptops, desktop pcs, pcs built into monitors/touchscreen monitors, and the PS3 is a pc with a different operating system in it for all intents and purposes, it has a CPU a GPU RAM and a motherboard.
also just so you know, I was running skyrim on a pc that cost me like $400, only that computer I bought 4 years ago, and was about half as powerful as my current system, so yeah, considering cost depreciation, if I were to sell you that computer, I'd only be able to charge you like $50 for it with a clear conscience.
And just so you get the idea, skyrim on that computer, makes skyrim on the xbox/ps3 look like minecraft in texture resolution and visual quality by comparison...
And with a few mods has much better gameplay value too.
Additionally, yes shit DOES evolve. PCs do it piece by piece and program by program. Consoles do it generationally. Please don't make such silly comments like Skyrim on NES. That's a bad comparison. I'm very glad that your PC experience has been good for you. Don't knock MY good times in a futile war.
Not knocking anyone's experience, just pointing out some inconsistencies, so that you or others may learn if you so choose.
Another thing that a lot of people like to say that I'ma knock outa the park before you feel the need to throw them out there, save us both time.
I can plug my pc into a tv, I can plug all sorts of controllers into my computer, and almost every game I have(over 400 at this point, on steam alone, I have many on GOG and I have a big pile of discs, don't feel like counting them all) is capable of being configured to work with almost any given kind of controller, I can use gamepads joysticks steering wheels, even wavystick motion control stuff like the Wii controller.
I have access to my entire game library with ease, I don't even hafta put a disc in!
Also wireless mouse and keyboard if I want to I can play games on a bigscreen tv sitting on my couch, wireless gamepad controller as well. I can stream anything off of the internet, through netflix or off of youtube or any other site off of my tv anytime, and I don't hafta fumble with a controller to type shit in either.
I get games cheap, I can mod them to hell and back, and I don't lose ANY of my library when I choose to upgrade, cuz backwards compatability, hell I can run games for consoles due to using an emulator for those older games that I still own for the PS1/PS2 just pop em into my drive, and play em.
PC is unquestionably the best gaming platform, whether or not it was made for such duties, hell, I know you are likely to throw the quote of how I bought a pc for about $400 4 years ago, back at me, I gave it to someone cuz I was flying across a country bringing nothing but a suitcase with me, I couldn't bother to ship it out with me, just saved time and bought a new one here, so yeah I might've popped more ram and a tuned up video card into it or something, which would've cost me about $100 but that'd just be for the sake of pushing everything that much further. on that system I could still run all of the games available and make em look better than they do on a console, so really not an issue overall when it comes to comparison.
also when you rack up the cost of my steam library(more games than any sane person needs at this point) of over 400 games, and think about how much that library cost me due to steam sales, I'm looking at a cost estimate of I'd say around $500-$700, if you can get a games library of 400 games, and a console to run them, prettier than consoles do now, with mod support, and all sorts of other nifty features for $1200 or less... I'd call that a value win, cuz even if we said you got all those games for your console second hand at $20 a game, you're still spending $8000! So really, who's spending a buttload of money here?
