Cthulu
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Allow me to put in more of a thorough reference on all of this. I read the stories, I've played games, I've viewed media references. Let's talk.
Cthulhu - for those of you who don't know off-hand - is a gigantic squid-faced bloated humanoid clammy-scaley beast with huge bat-like wings and a gaze which can apparently cause insanity. Actually, it's that seeing him PERIOD causes it because the sight of a monster that is more than a match for Godzilla (with an ancient mind full of psychic powers that could rip your brain a new one) would be way too much for even the modern imaginative mind. The Great Old Ones have this problem of being dimensionally unsound, and so massively powerful in one way or another that you can just FEEL your inevitable demise. So, Cthulhu doesn't even have to try and force you to die. You might top yourself because the giant squid-head is looking at you like you're food for its tapeworm.
ANYWAY, the problem of trying to kill Cthulhu. He and the other Great Old Ones (plus Elder Gods and Outer Gods) do not have any death which is permanent. They wait for eons in a death-like state for the time in which they may rise up and reclaim the Earth. H.P. Lovecraft himself states that, basically, the passage of time has no meaning for them. NOW THEN, here is the ruling on Cthulhu-death. It is only possible to somehow STOP Cthulhu, to cease his reign of terror. To inflict reasonable damage on Cthulhu to the point where his threshold for it is too much (already a difficult feat) does not kill. The Great Old Ones tend to melt, explode, vanish, transpose into gas, etc. - BUT NONE OF THESE OCCURANCES ARE TRUE DEATH. It is stated that once defeated, the Old One (Cthulhu included) will simply return to its place of resting to await the next time in which it may awaken.
So you see, the terror of Cthulhu is that he is an adversary which we would fight forever. If somebody comes along and defeats him, he waits untold millenia for his enemies to die off or be killed by his followers, and then rises again completely renewed.
EXTRA NOTE: Elder Signs are mostly for things from the Outer Gods. I don't believe you could use it on Cthulhu, Yig, Abhoth, or anything else that sleeps on this Earth.
Cthulhu - for those of you who don't know off-hand - is a gigantic squid-faced bloated humanoid clammy-scaley beast with huge bat-like wings and a gaze which can apparently cause insanity. Actually, it's that seeing him PERIOD causes it because the sight of a monster that is more than a match for Godzilla (with an ancient mind full of psychic powers that could rip your brain a new one) would be way too much for even the modern imaginative mind. The Great Old Ones have this problem of being dimensionally unsound, and so massively powerful in one way or another that you can just FEEL your inevitable demise. So, Cthulhu doesn't even have to try and force you to die. You might top yourself because the giant squid-head is looking at you like you're food for its tapeworm.
ANYWAY, the problem of trying to kill Cthulhu. He and the other Great Old Ones (plus Elder Gods and Outer Gods) do not have any death which is permanent. They wait for eons in a death-like state for the time in which they may rise up and reclaim the Earth. H.P. Lovecraft himself states that, basically, the passage of time has no meaning for them. NOW THEN, here is the ruling on Cthulhu-death. It is only possible to somehow STOP Cthulhu, to cease his reign of terror. To inflict reasonable damage on Cthulhu to the point where his threshold for it is too much (already a difficult feat) does not kill. The Great Old Ones tend to melt, explode, vanish, transpose into gas, etc. - BUT NONE OF THESE OCCURANCES ARE TRUE DEATH. It is stated that once defeated, the Old One (Cthulhu included) will simply return to its place of resting to await the next time in which it may awaken.
So you see, the terror of Cthulhu is that he is an adversary which we would fight forever. If somebody comes along and defeats him, he waits untold millenia for his enemies to die off or be killed by his followers, and then rises again completely renewed.
EXTRA NOTE: Elder Signs are mostly for things from the Outer Gods. I don't believe you could use it on Cthulhu, Yig, Abhoth, or anything else that sleeps on this Earth.
Cthulhu cannot die. End of story. His gaze causes instant insanity. I would love to see a game where you play as him mindlessly destroying everything.
Seriously. That would just print money. *little cash register noises go on inside head*liamlemon7 said:
Cthulhu is unkillable, and there have been many games with Cthulhu in them.
Ia Ia.....Cthulhu Fhtagn.
Ia Ia.....Cthulhu Fhtagn.
I think that you may have read a few TOO MANY of Lovecraft's stories, my friend.gmer412 said:
Also, I like my avatar better.
Does anyone know of where I can find a translation for the whole ftaghn word set thing?
It bugs me not knowing what elder demon gods are yelling at me before my brain melts and my ears implode.
It bugs me not knowing what elder demon gods are yelling at me before my brain melts and my ears implode.
YAY Cookie!CoverYourHead said:
*OM NOM NOM NOM*
OMG MILK I'M LACTOSE INTOLERANT!!!!1!!!11!!!!11! *dies*
You can kill three Cthulu like monsters in Eternal Darkness by pitting another Cthulu like monster against them. That still leaves a 4th one however...
I think it could work as just an appearance, but you shouldn't be able to actually kill him. I'd love to see another Cthulhu mythos game made by the same folks who made Dark Corners of the Earth. Too bad that's never going to happen, as it was a great game. Fundamentally all the gameplay mechanics are pretty sound, and it's atmosphere is amazing, it's a shame the PC version was so buggy. Really I could only see Cthulhu working if he appeared briefly right at the end and caused you to go insane and kill yourself. Either shooting yourself, jumping off a cliff into the ocean, or what have you. I can imagine it being very impressive, especially if done with the same insanity effects of Dark Corners of the Earth. But you don't kill Cthulhu, period.