Curiousity: What do you do to boost your device's gaming performance?

Recommended Videos

DrunkOnEstus

In the name of Harman...
May 11, 2012
1,712
0
0
jamail77 said:
#6, As for #8 I think I may have done that already, but I'm not sure. Can you give me a screenshot or online image example so I can know what you're talking about?
For #6, you are looking at the correct screen. You want the initial size to be what the recommended says at the bottom, or roughly 1.5X your current amount of RAM. The maximum size should be twice the amount of RAM you have. So you're looking at a range of 12-16000 in your case.

For #8, I think he's referring to the little picture of the battery on on the taskbar on the bottom-right in Windows, if you're plugged into the wall then you want "high performance" all the way there. You said you're already using Razer Cortex, and the recommended setting of that program should already make your power profile "max performance".

One additional thing I thought of is looking in the BIOS (when the computer is turning on, continuously press DEL or F2 or whatever it says for system setup) and see if there's a setting in there to raise the amount of memory allocated to the GPU, or any other power settings in there to help you out. Sometimes laptop manufacturers configure things to maximize the battery life at the expense of performance so it's worth taking a look at it. You also have enough system RAM now to give the GPU whatever it will take.

It also occurred to me that the AMD website with a possible beta driver (or whatever's newest) for your mobility Radeon would be a better and probably newer driver than the one you would find on your laptop manufacturer's website.
 

jamail77

New member
May 21, 2011
683
0
0
DrunkOnEstus said:
jamail77 said:
I just wrote a long post in a different thread about doing this, but I'll condense it here to help out and stuff.You probably do a lot of these things already, but I do this for a living and a lot of people still don't do this kind of maintenance and it helps a lot
I do indeed do a lot of it (Razer Cortex Game Booster, GBoost, Soluto, CCleaner, changing game configuration files, messing with msconfigs and Services so unneccessary stuff isn't running at startup/boot and/or in general, messing with things in task manager; usually to set the game's priority to realtime), so I'll just address what I don't do or am too scared to do, possibly irrationally so.

DrunkOnEstus said:
Getting rid of bad shit:

Even if you have Defender or Norton (you shouldn't have Norton or McAfee), there's free programs I highly recommend that pick up a lot of stuff that gets past the filters.

Update and run Malwarebytes Free https://www.malwarebytes.org/ and SuperAntiSpyware Free http://superantispyware.com/. Malwarebytes gets rid of a lot of malware, adware, spyware, tracking cookies and blah blah that slows things down. SuperAntiSpyware picks up what makes it past there and is great for getting rid of "piggyback" programs that come with installers like toolbars and things that waste memory. Update and run these 2 about once a week.
I've heard of Malwarebytes Free but not SuperAntiSpyware.

Also, who the hell would use Defender or Norton that is also a gamer looking to improve performance? Anyone in that position must know enough of the bare minimum to know to never use those. I could understand the average person, but a gamer specifically looking to improve performance?

DrunkOnEstus said:
Keep your hard drive defragmented (unless its an SSD, then you don't need to worry about it). The utility built into Windows works, but I recommend Defraggler by the folks who make CCleaner (I saw that program mentioned in the thread and I really recommend it as well). I had friends with $2,000 computers who had like 55% fragmentation on their HDDs, and it can make everything slower and not good and stuff.
When I took my laptop in to be repaired and upgraded to 8GB RAM I also replaced the HDD with an SSD. While I don't need to worry about it as you say, should I still bother doing it at all? Will it help at all? You know, it's unfortunate. I had to get a smaller size one to save money. It only has 119 usable GB. Thankfully, I have 2 external HDDs at 500 GB each and a soon to be third one.

DrunkOnEstus said:
Make sure your graphics drivers are updated.
I try to do this, but I haven't checked in a while.

DrunkOnEstus said:
While you're there you might as well update your BIOS, but this is up to you. You may not see performance improvements from it, and while the process is a HELL of a lot safer than it used to be, there's still an inherent risk in your computer losing power or something while the BIOS is being flashed. If any of this makes you uncomfortable, don't worry about upgrading your BIOS.
I think I know enough to do it, but I do feel some small uncomfortability. Is that small uncomfortability enough for you to advise me to stay away or based on how you've read my OP and responses do you think I'll be safe doing it?

DrunkOnEstus said:
If you're cool with 3rd party programs, I love Razer's Game Booster. [snip]The program also has an optional FPS counter, screenshot taker, and video recorder. It can also defrag individual folders for your game installations. I use it pretty much every time I launch a game: http://www.razerzone.com/cortex/game-booster
I LOVE it's FPS counter and video recorder. I trust it over Steam's, that's for sure. That goes especially when it gives a similar value to FRAPS (last time I checked which must have been a year or less ago, don't rememeber). Steam's always seems inaccurate. I don't know why but if I had to guess it probably has something to do with Steam overlay and how that affects the calcuations.

DrunkOnEstus said:
Sidenotes: Don't launch a game in windowed mode to gain performance, you generally won't and will only make your life more difficult if you don't need your game windowed/borderless windowed. If possible, use your monitor's native resolution to run a game and work the other settings around that, upscaling is very bad and lowering the resolution needlessly can actually make the performance more reliant on your CPU instead of your GPU. Lowering shadow resolution/quality is the first place to go for big gains that aren't noticed a whole lot visually. With a laptop I don't recommend MSAA for most games as its too "expensive" (resource wise) but FXAA and MLAA are post-process solutions that are less expensive and worth it if you're okay with their relative blurriness compared to the jaggies they get rid of.
Every game I have seems to run better in windowed non-fullscreen, lowest resolution mode. You say it's a bad idea, but with the GPU I have I'm not sure it's such a bad idea for the CPU to handle more of the performance. At this point, I really am talking complete ignorance though, so it's better you tell me what's right or wrong with what I just said. I knew relatively what I was talking about above in the rest of this post.

DrunkOnEstus said:
Before launching any game, check out the pcgamingwiki entry for it: pcgamingwiki.com. Some games have weird quirks or literally essential mods or settings to run and look optimal, and this site is a great resource to make sure that you're running the game the best you can.
Thanks for the resource!

DrunkOnEstus said:
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about anything, there's also the "PC builders and hardware group" here at the Escapist where we talk about things like this sometimes and it's what I do for fun when it isn't my job. Good luck!
Both sound like a good idea and I like doing it for fun myself despite my relative ignorance to you. I'll make sure to keep it in mind. Thanks!

DrunkOnEstus said:
One additional thing I thought of is looking in the BIOS (when the computer is turning on, continuously press DEL or F2 or whatever it says for system setup) and see if there's a setting in there to raise the amount of memory allocated to the GPU, or any other power settings in there to help you out. Sometimes laptop manufacturers configure things to maximize the battery life at the expense of performance so it's worth taking a look at it. You also have enough system RAM now to give the GPU whatever it will take.

It also occurred to me that the AMD website with a possible beta driver (or whatever's newest) for your mobility Radeon would be a better and probably newer driver than the one you would find on your laptop manufacturer's website.
If I ever get comfortable messing with the BIOS I'll make sure to do that.

I think my drivers are up to date, but I'll make sure to check.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

I never asked for this
Sep 8, 2011
6,651
0
0
jamail77 said:
The_Kodu said:
4) Regularly run CC cleaner to remove junk files
How about that? Someone else who uses CCleaner. Do you also happen to use Soluto, GBoost, and Razer Cortex Game Booster? I pretty much do everything you said, but I really should defragment the hard drive and air dust it more. We both seem to be on the right track though even if you don't use that fairly low powered laptop any longer.
Yes, you should defrag. Because those programs don't actually do anything (other than CCleaner). They can, however, be harmful. The best defrag program isn't free though. I use UltimateDefrag. It allows you to place files, folders and programs on the outer rings of the HDD for faster access and then whatever you don't use or use the least you can place in the inner circles.
 

jamail77

New member
May 21, 2011
683
0
0
Adam Jensen said:
Yes, you should defrag. Because those programs don't actually do anything (other than CCleaner). They can, however, be harmful. The best defrag program isn't free though. I use UltimateDefrag. It allows you to place files, folders and programs on the outer rings of the HDD for faster access and then whatever you don't use or use the least you can place in the inner circles.
I misposted there. I have an SDD now (though my other posts make that clear to be fair). I was just told by DrunkOnEstus that I don't have to worry about defragging if I had an SDD. Is that not true?

He also said that Razer Cortex Game Booster does do something as he uses it himself and considering how informative and in depth his advice is, the fact he founded the "PC builders and hardware group" on this site, and that I have noticed small improvements LITERALLY every time I use it in conjunction with Gboost (and I make sure to check task manager to see it's actually ending what it says it's ending) I'm going to keep using them. Would it be more efficient to do everything those two do without the memory usage of the programs? Sure. Is that convenient and fast? No. Other than that, I'm afraid I have to disagree with you and I hope you don't take offense to that. I just need solid proof that I'm imagining these performance increases and why I shouldn't take the advice of DrunkOnEstus.

As for Soluto, it's not meant to DO much of anything. It monitors your computer to see what is causing problems, mainly to see what is slowing it down especially for boot time. It can correct these issues, but it's more of a monitoring tool and the things it says I use the most tend to be the things I use the most.

Honestly, I get the feeling you're dismissing the programs because you've heard a lot about folklore cure all programs. That doesn't mean there aren't some legitimate ones out there. Razer may make overpriced, nonsense hardware as far as I know, but their game booster is solid.
DrunkOnEstus said:
For #8, I think he's referring to the little picture of the battery on on the taskbar on the bottom-right in Windows, if you're plugged into the wall then you want "high performance" all the way there. You said you're already using Razer Cortex, and the recommended setting of that program should already make your power profile "max performance".
I forgot to mention that I figured that's what he meant and I already would have done that were it not for Razer Cortex.
 

Yopaz

Sarcastic overlord
Jun 3, 2009
6,092
0
0
Generally I don't have any problems, but when I do I usually adjust the resolution to something slightly lower (make sure it fits my screen dimensions properly) then I adjust everything down a bit. Water effects and shadows are great since they take up a lot of resources and aren't that easily noticed in intense bouts anyway.
 

DrunkOnEstus

In the name of Harman...
May 11, 2012
1,712
0
0
jamail77 said:
I wouldn't dismiss what Adam Jensen is saying outright (the man is at this point more machine than man so he he probably has to do software maintenance on his brain), but I kid. He's right about UltimateDefrag being awesome if you have a traditional hard drive though. I'll go into a little side discussion about defragmentation:

Before SSD hard drives, and for like 30+ years before them, hard drives worked using metal "platters" that are kind of like tiny metal LP records that have 1's and 0's literally etched into them using a needle something like 5,000-10,000 times per minute. This is why you are told why they are quite fragile and is the basis of those pesky "moving parts". Because they worked this way, data isn't necessarily written neatly and uniformly across the platters, being written wherever it happens to be at the time. This means that all relevant files needed to launch a program or keep your OS running become "fragmented", or spread across the disc at random. A fragmented disc has to search around the sectors constantly, from the outside going in, until all of the relevant files are assembled in that inefficient way. Defragmenting your hard drive takes these scattered files and moves them together so that they can be accessed more efficiently and with everything as close together as possible.

SSD (or Solid State Drives) work more like giant SD cards or USB sticks, in that they have no moving parts and write using NAND flashing or some such (I admit my knowledge of how SSDs "work" isn't so brushed up but they point is that there's no moving parts or platters). They technically can get fragmented, but the performance loss and chewing up of the platters because of it is much less severe, being that there are no platters to chew up and the access to the data is much quicker. There are specialized programs to defrag SSD drives, but the process is nowhere near as necessary and helpful as keeping a traditional drive defragmented.

That aside, I understand a lot of people's trepidation about programs like Cortex, including Adam Jensen's. Many programs out there claim to be a magic bullet that uses wizardry to double your FPS, doing little more than what CCleaner does (Ccleaner is best for clearing up HDD space and speeding up your web browsing, outside of its registry tool). I was skeptical about Cortex too until I used it for video recording and realized how much memory it was clearing up and how many programs/services were running even despite my efforts to minimize their presence manually. I only recommend it because of my own experiences and the praises it gets from people who give it a shot.

There is merit to what he says about them being "harmful". I wouldn't say harmful in the sense of computer damage or such, but doing things like closing explorer.exe and launching in "game desktop" can be recipe for hard crashes or an inability to return to your regular desktop after the game closes. I would only recommend those 2 options if you haven't found any way to hit a playable frame rate or need to eke out a couple more frames. If you're having issues of any kind running a game I would recommend stopping those 2 actions first. If he's referring to the snake oil that wears the clothes of programs like Cortex, then absolutely there's a lot of real harm that can happen, but I've seen no indication that Razer is interested in spreading spyware or lying about what their programs do.

I saw your other quote, I have some work to get to before I respond to the large one addressing multiple aspects of the computer, I just wanted to say that I don't know everything, and I'm likely to get something wrong, and that it looked like Adam Jensen was trying to save you from downloading useless software. I'll get back to you once I have some more free time.

Oh, and I thought of an answer to your OP! I have my PSP modded so that it has the highest level brightness when not plugged in, and is overclocked to 333mhz at all times. The PSP is a badass little handheld that can do a lot, and its worth picking one up if you find one cheap somewhere.
 

SmugFrog

Ribbit
Sep 4, 2008
1,239
4
43
Adam Jensen said:
Because those programs don't actually do anything (other than CCleaner).
I disagree with you about Game Booster - and not the newer version that wants you to pay to unlock features, but the old one. It consistently tells me there's a new version available, but don't upgrade that thing or you lose features. I've run benchmarks to confirm that I do gain FPS with Game Booster running. HOWEVER, all Game Booster really does is go through your process list and manually disable the unnecessary processes; something that you could do yourself. It just gives you the ability to disable those processes and reenable them when you're done with your game.

There are some really great tips posted above for squeezing every last bit you can out of your rig. Ultimately, it's good to know what is running on your system, what is launching on startup, etc. I can't tell you how many friends I've scrubbed their laptops for them to clean them up (HD space, msconfig startup).

Also, when using Vista and having low RAM (2-4 gigs? I can't remember what that laptop had), I noticed a slight performance increase (via benchmarking) with Windows readyboost enabled on a USB drive.
 

kasperbbs

New member
Dec 27, 2009
1,855
0
0
I close chrome which is running 20 open tabs at the moment and is using up 4 GB's of ram.. I should buy 8 more gigs of ram..
 

Dirkie

New member
Feb 3, 2009
312
0
0
When in need of extra power performance wise, i switch on the MSI Afterburner software to clock my videocard a bit above the default speed settings, and also to force the fan to blow a little more to keep things cool.

As with all those tools, use with caution and it's your responsebility not to melt your gaming machine.
 

jamail77

New member
May 21, 2011
683
0
0
Adam Jensen said:
DrunkOnEstus said:
I wouldn't dismiss what Adam Jensen is saying outright
[snip]
There is merit to what he says about them being "harmful". I wouldn't say harmful in the sense of computer damage or such, but doing things like closing explorer.exe and launching in "game desktop" can be recipe for hard crashes or an inability to return to your regular desktop after the game closes. I would only recommend those 2 options if you haven't found any way to hit a playable frame rate or need to eke out a couple more frames. If you're having issues of any kind running a game I would recommend stopping those 2 actions first. If he's referring to the snake oil that wears the clothes of programs like Cortex, then absolutely there's a lot of real harm that can happen, but I've seen no indication that Razer is interested in spreading spyware or lying about what their programs do.

I saw your other quote, I have some work to get to before I respond to the large one addressing multiple aspects of the computer, I just wanted to say that I don't know everything, and I'm likely to get something wrong, and that it looked like Adam Jensen was trying to save you from downloading useless software. I'll get back to you once I have some more free time.
Adam Jensen: Like I said in my response I meant no offense. I hope I didn't come off as rude. As DrunkOnEstus says, I shouldn't dismiss you outright. It's just what both me and DrunkOnEstus said, which is that
jamail77 said:
Honestly, I get the feeling you're dismissing the programs because you've heard a lot about folklore cure all programs. That doesn't mean there aren't some legitimate ones out there. Razer may make overpriced, nonsense hardware as far as I know anyway [could be wrong], but their game booster is solid.
I get that you were trying to save me from useless software, but it has worked for me even when it's only a few frames difference. These things sometimes do work when they admit they're not the cure alls you've probably seen but helpers, supplementary.

DrunkOnEstus said:
Oh, and I thought of an answer to your OP! I have my PSP modded so that it has the highest level brightness when not plugged in, and is overclocked to 333mhz at all times. The PSP is a badass little handheld that can do a lot, and its worth picking one up if you find one cheap somewhere.
Overclocked to 333mhz, huh? What does it usually stay at? I have a friend who has both a PSP and a Vita I believe.

SmugFrog said:
Adam Jensen said:
I disagree with you about Game Booster - and not the newer version that wants you to pay to unlock features, but the old one. It consistently tells me there's a new version available, but don't upgrade that thing or you lose features. I've run benchmarks to confirm that I do gain FPS with Game Booster running. HOWEVER, all Game Booster really does is go through your process list and manually disable the unnecessary processes; something that you could do yourself. It just gives you the ability to disable those processes and reenable them when you're done with your game.
Wait. I have the newest version! What do you lose? Even accounting for the pay to unlock stuff I thought I gained more features overall. Maybe I was fooled by how shiny it looks? It's been so long since I used the original that I don't even know what I did or did not lose.

And, yep, that's how it works. That's why I said,
jamail77 said:
Would it be more efficient to do everything those two [I use GBoost in combination with Game Booster hence why I said two] do without the memory usage of the programs? Sure. Is that convenient and fast? No.
The_Kodu said:
I honestly don't use the other things you mentioned, I'm not sure they'd give too huge a boost vs the resources needed to run them initially. [snip]

The virtual memory thing is just as you've done though as another poster said you may want your initial to be 1.5x your ram.
They do give a bit of a boost. It isn't huge, but it's enough for me to keep using them. In the end, you're right. It'd be more efficient to do what they do without using the memory of the programs, but it's way too convenient honestly.

I said I've never done it before but the memory came back to me. A year or 2 ago I did do this, but I never followed through with it especially since my laptop has been in and out of the shop...that, and I did spill tomato soup on it one time.....................

I only put it so low because I was going off the minimum, assuming that needed to be the initial.

The_Kodu said:
It'll give you a little bit of a performance boost. The battery thing is often hidden a bit down.[snip]

You'll want to make sure that the maximum state is set to 100% and that your system is set to active cooling not passive. Also it's worth checking the Wi-fi settings on this screen as some laptops have their Wi-Fi set to turn off to save power and this can hamper performance in online games.
Yeah, I just needed an example because I didn't quite understand your phrasing. I have done that before, minus the fact Razer does it for me now, but I have never gone into the advanced settings. Appreciate the tip!
 

DrunkOnEstus

In the name of Harman...
May 11, 2012
1,712
0
0
jamail77 said:
Snipped so that you've been quoted
I'm going to spoiler my answers to your questions, because its going to get a bit long and I wanted the answers to have context, also I couldn't figure out another way to spoiler it while properly quoting you.

DrunkOnEstus said:
Getting rid of bad shit:

Even if you have Defender or Norton (you shouldn't have Norton or McAfee), there's free programs I highly recommend that pick up a lot of stuff that gets past the filters.

Update and run Malwarebytes Free https://www.malwarebytes.org/ and SuperAntiSpyware Free http://superantispyware.com/. Malwarebytes gets rid of a lot of malware, adware, spyware, tracking cookies and blah blah that slows things down. SuperAntiSpyware picks up what makes it past there and is great for getting rid of "piggyback" programs that come with installers like toolbars and things that waste memory. Update and run these 2 about once a week.
I've heard of Malwarebytes Free but not SuperAntiSpyware.

Also, who the hell would use Defender or Norton that is also a gamer looking to improve performance? Anyone in that position must know enough of the bare minimum to know to never use those. I could understand the average person, but a gamer specifically looking to improve performance?
You'd be amazed. The "bare minimum" computer knowledge one would expect varies wildly, and depends on people's comfort level and how they've been informed. Some people buy an Alienware or other pre-built because they want to game on a PC and feel safe knowing that it has come with "protection". Truth be told, I haven't run a 24/7 antivirus in years without issue. I had AVG back when it was the big free thing, and all it ever really did was use resources and get in my way. If you don't open e-mail attachments from strangers or go to ghetto warez/porn sites, and have "as needed" scanners at the ready, you shouldn't have a problem. If you aren't comfortable with this idea AVG and Avast free are good options. I still recommend weekly scans with Malwarebytes and SuperAntiSpyware for the tracking cookies, adware, and social media shit that is hard to outright avoid.

DrunkOnEstus said:
Discussing defragmentation
When I took my laptop in to be repaired and upgraded to 8GB RAM I also replaced the HDD with an SSD. While I don't need to worry about it as you say, should I still bother doing it at all? Will it help at all? You know, it's unfortunate. I had to get a smaller size one to save money. It only has 119 usable GB. Thankfully, I have 2 external HDDs at 500 GB each and a soon to be third one.
Don't worry about defragmenting your system drive if its an SSD, Windows should be taking care of that maintenance for you. It wouldn't hurt to see if the externals are fragmented for the sake of speed when accessing them. I find this upgrade path quite odd if you're wanting to game on the laptop, but you're kind of stuck seeing as the GPU isn't upgradable.

DrunkOnEstus said:
Make sure your graphics drivers are updated.
I try to do this, but I haven't checked in a while.
It's one of the biggest things you can do to increase performance short of buying faster hardware. I HIGHLY recommend going to AMD's site and getting the newest mobility Radeon driver. Here's why it's such a big deal, in case you were interested:

Almost every PC game ships...kinda fuckin' broke. The developers can't easily account for every possible hardware configuration, or changes in GPU architecture during the years of development. On consoles, developers get to code "close to the metal", meaning that the code is directly speaking as closely as possible to the exact hardware in the machine, and they also know exactly what hardware is in every PS4/X1.

On PC, the developers are talking mostly to DirectX or OpenGL, which talks to your GPU with draw calls. The launch code for most PC games usually spends some time in the hands of Nvidia or AMD (hopefully both, but certainly not always), so that they can release a driver near or at the launch date that can best communicate that code to their GPUs as quickly and efficiently as possible. This is why we have shit like Witcher 3 "hairworks" causing massive drops in FPS, or games like Tomb Raider that seem to favor AMD hardware (it's worth noting that AMD's hardware is in all 3 current gen machines).

I'm sidetracked here, but basically having up to date graphics drivers is incredibly important right now because an out of date driver can do a shit job at communicating the game to your GPU needlessly. DirectX 12 with Windows 10 is supposedly aiming to bring more of a "close to the metal" coding experience to PC, and AMD's Mantle was a similar experiment in attempting the same because for whatever reason AMD's drivers tend to not be as good at making games "unbroken" compared to Nvidia. This is all besides the point though, which is that you want the newest GPU driver all the time.


DrunkOnEstus said:
While you're there you might as well update your BIOS, but this is up to you. You may not see performance improvements from it, and while the process is a HELL of a lot safer than it used to be, there's still an inherent risk in your computer losing power or something while the BIOS is being flashed. If any of this makes you uncomfortable, don't worry about upgrading your BIOS.
I think I know enough to do it, but I do feel some small uncomfortability. Is that small uncomfortability enough for you to advise me to stay away or based on how you've read my OP and responses do you think I'll be safe doing it?
You have more knowledge then most of the people I work with in a professional context, as well as a general understanding of what you're doing regarding what we're talking about, and most importantly a curiosity to know as much as you can about how to get the most out of your machine and how it works.

I keep my BIOS regularly updated, these days it involves the download of an .exe that you run that can flash the BIOS within Windows. Back in the day you used to have to put the flasher on a floppy, then any other external media, and reboot your computer and flash it before the OS launched.

I want to recommend it as it provides the newest "in-between" of the hardware and Windows, as well as the newest features for your model from the manufacturer. I just don't want to feel responsible if a freak thing happens (like <1% possibility freak thing, since in a power surge your laptop would still be powered by the battery). It's something I do whenever a new update is available, and have done about a couple dozen times without issue. I only know that there's an inherent risk involved if something happens during the flash, and I would feel pretty shitty if I recommended something that broke your laptop. So I'll say I recommend it, and you should feel assured about doing it, but in very unlikely circumstances mentioned for ass-covering reasons I hope we could still be friends one day.

DrunkOnEstus said:
Sidenotes: Don't launch a game in windowed mode to gain performance, you generally won't and will only make your life more difficult if you don't need your game windowed/borderless windowed. If possible, use your monitor's native resolution to run a game and work the other settings around that, upscaling is very bad and lowering the resolution needlessly can actually make the performance more reliant on your CPU instead of your GPU. Lowering shadow resolution/quality is the first place to go for big gains that aren't noticed a whole lot visually. With a laptop I don't recommend MSAA for most games as its too "expensive" (resource wise) but FXAA and MLAA are post-process solutions that are less expensive and worth it if you're okay with their relative blurriness compared to the jaggies they get rid of.
Every game I have seems to run better in windowed non-fullscreen, lowest resolution mode. You say it's a bad idea, but with the GPU I have I'm not sure it's such a bad idea for the CPU to handle more of the performance. At this point, I really am talking complete ignorance though, so it's better you tell me what's right or wrong with what I just said. I knew relatively what I was talking about above in the rest of this post.
I did some thinking on this, and here's what's going on. The reason the rule of thumb is fullscreen>windowed for single monitors is that the game isn't getting "priority". The game is being rendered, and its math is being calculated, along with the drawing of your desktop and Windows environment. The upside to this is that alt-tabs are quick, and you can minimize it and so on. I'd like to think that for at least some games there's a way for you to be fullscreen at or near your native resolution, as that represents the game getting full attention from the PC and looking at its best in a render that your monitor would prefer to display without nasty upscaling.

As you look through resources like pcgamingwiki and get comfortable with advanced settings, for a lot of games you should be able to find a happy visuals/performance medium and that generally involves not using the catch-all "low/medium/high/ultra/MasturRaceLol" visual settings. You can ask me or google what things like SSAO, SSAA, MSAA, SMAA, FXAA, and chromatic aberration are and how much of a performance impact changing such a setting would have on the game.

For example, if I set a game to just "high" and launched it, I might be getting less FPS than I like because the shadows and light rays and such are at high, when I'd prefer that those things be at medium if it means that I get to have high textures (I always want as high resolution textures as possible) or turn on a form of AA and end up with better performance than I did with everything at "high". You'll also notice going through pcgamingwiki that some games fucked up a certain setting. In Wolfenstein:TNO for example, everybody who doesn't have high-end rigs get destroyed by turning on the reflection and shadow resolution settings. If I just set the game to "medium" it might raise one of these values and I'm seeing way worse performance when it could run better and quite frankly not look much worse/different.

I guess what I'm getting at is that setting most games to windowed with low as possible resolution is (at least to me personally) a vastly inferior visual experience that asks your GPU to do as little work as possible when there's ways it can help you achieve a better experience. Having the FPS counter in Cortex should help should you decide to visit the wiki for a game and see if you can make a fullscreen experience happen. Some may disagree with me on this point, but most of the graphical settings are merely fluff compared to having a game render at a resolution that the screen prefers or isn't massively upscaling. Higher resolution means more pixels means more colors means more of the visuals the game is trying to have you see, and at or close to the screen's native resolution means less or no distortion and the screen displaying the best it can.

DrunkOnEstus said:
One additional thing I thought of is looking in the BIOS (when the computer is turning on, continuously press DEL or F2 or whatever it says for system setup) and see if there's a setting in there to raise the amount of memory allocated to the GPU, or any other power settings in there to help you out. Sometimes laptop manufacturers configure things to maximize the battery life at the expense of performance so it's worth taking a look at it. You also have enough system RAM now to give the GPU whatever it will take.
If I ever get comfortable messing with the BIOS I'll make sure to do that.
You shouldn't have to think of the BIOS as a scary thing. If a setting is saying something you don't understand, then some research needs to be done before changing it. Changing something like your SATA mode from AHCI to IDE would cause Windows to not boot, but in such a circumstance you could just go back in and change it back or hit the "default settings" button. It's for this reason that it's recommended that first-time BIOS tinkerers only change one setting at a time while they're in there, so if anything acts up you know exactly what setting caused the problem. There's no button to set the computer on fire or anything, and you don't seem like the kind of person who would arbitrarily set a boot-up password and then forget it. If nothing else, it wouldn't hurt just to look in there and navigate it just to get the feel for it, if you're afraid that you might accidentally change a setting you can always exit without saving your changes. If there's a way to allocate more VRAM to the GPU or stop some power-saving measure, the gains would be awesome, but either way it's a nice way to learn just a little more about how your computer works and seeing what the "handover" from boot to Windows looks like.

Whew. I need to work on that rambling thing I apparently do, anyway I hope I was able to help give some insight : )
 

Padwolf

New member
Sep 2, 2010
2,062
0
0
Well I have a gaming laptop too, pretty much similar specs as yours, OP.

In all honesty? I just have a cooling fan. This baby can run LA Noire and a modded to shit Skyrim all day everyday!
 

jamail77

New member
May 21, 2011
683
0
0
DrunkOnEstus said:
I'm going to spoiler my answers to your questions, because its going to get a bit long and I wanted the answers to have context, also I couldn't figure out another way to spoiler it while properly quoting you.
DrunkOnEstus said:
I've heard of Malwarebytes Free but not SuperAntiSpyware.

Also, who the hell would use Defender or Norton that is also a gamer looking to improve performance? Anyone in that position must know enough of the bare minimum to know to never use those. I could understand the average person, but a gamer specifically looking to improve performance?
You'd be amazed. The "bare minimum" computer knowledge one would expect varies wildly, and depends on people's comfort level and how they've been informed. [snip]
It's not that it doesn't surprise me. It's just a "Really? REALLY?" feeling.

DrunkOnEstus said:
DrunkOnEstus said:
Discussing defragmentation
When I took my laptop in to be repaired and upgraded to 8GB RAM I also replaced the HDD with an SSD. While I don't need to worry about it as you say, should I still bother doing it at all? Will it help at all? You know, it's unfortunate. I had to get a smaller size one to save money. It only has 119 usable GB. Thankfully, I have 2 external HDDs at 500 GB each and a soon to be third one.
Don't worry about defragmenting your system drive if its an SSD, Windows should be taking care of that maintenance for you. It wouldn't hurt to see if the externals are fragmented for the sake of speed when accessing them. I find this upgrade path quite odd if you're wanting to game on the laptop, but you're kind of stuck seeing as the GPU isn't upgradable.
I didn't upgrade to make it better for gaming though I did hope to see SOME improvements. I upgraded it to make it last, hoping it's cost effective, and to stop it from overheating doing the simplest things. As I said in my OP this laptop was bought by my Dad for school and was never meant for gaming. I just make do with it. In fact, part of the reason I want it to last is out of appreciation towards him despite the fact it might be more cost effective at this point to get a new laptop or even a desktop. It is 4 years old after all. Not only that but it also...well.....

I think I also mentioned in one of my posts that a couple years or more back I accidentally spilled tomato soup on it. Yeah, that stuff is REALLY bad and at the time I didn't handle it the way you're supposed - I was specifically ignorant about that type of damage -but I guess I got lucky. I'm positive it still affects performance to this day though. If I wasn't being so lazy and had gotten up it wouldn't have spilled. You see, I was lying back completely down with my laptop on my stomach and the soup was to the right above me and I tried to edge it close enough that I could grab it and it ended up tipping over. So, I don't expect much out of the laptop anymore.

DrunkOnEstus said:
DrunkOnEstus said:
Make sure your graphics drivers are updated.
I try to do this, but I haven't checked in a while.
It's one of the biggest things you can do to increase performance short of buying faster hardware. I HIGHLY recommend going to AMD's site and getting the newest mobility Radeon driver. Here's why it's such a big deal, in case you were interested:

Almost every PC game ships...kinda fuckin' broke. [snip]

I'm sidetracked here, but basically having up to date graphics drivers is incredibly important right now because an out of date driver can do a shit job at communicating the game to your GPU needlessly. DirectX 12 with Windows 10 is supposedly aiming to bring more of a "close to the metal" coding experience to PC, and AMD's Mantle was a similar experiment in attempting the same because for whatever reason AMD's drivers tend to not be as good at making games "unbroken" compared to Nvidia. This is all besides the point though, which is that you want the newest GPU driver all the time.
I looked for it but I couldn't find it. The newest driver I could find was the version I have, which is 2 years old. Perhaps, that is the newest driver they offer on their site, but I'm unsure. I'll look for the driver again though to be sure.

Too bad DirectX 12 won't be coming to Windows 7 :/
I don't plan on upgrading to 10 until they've worked out the bugs right before the free offer expires.


DrunkOnEstus said:
DrunkOnEstus said:
While you're there you might as well update your BIOS, but this is up to you. You may not see performance improvements from it, and while the process is a HELL of a lot safer than it used to be, there's still an inherent risk in your computer losing power or something while the BIOS is being flashed. If any of this makes you uncomfortable, don't worry about upgrading your BIOS.
I think I know enough to do it, but I do feel some small uncomfortability. Is that small uncomfortability enough for you to advise me to stay away or based on how you've read my OP and responses do you think I'll be safe doing it?
You have more knowledge then most of the people I work with in a professional context, as well as a general understanding of what you're doing regarding what we're talking about, and most importantly a curiosity to know as much as you can about how to get the most out of your machine and how it works.

[snip]

I want to recommend it as it provides the newest "in-between" of the hardware and Windows, as well as the newest features for your model from the manufacturer. I just don't want to feel responsible if a freak thing happens [snip] I only know that there's an inherent risk involved if something happens during the flash, and I would feel pretty shitty if I recommended something that broke your laptop. So I'll say I recommend it, and you should feel assured about doing it, but in very unlikely circumstances mentioned for ass-covering reasons I hope we could still be friends one day.
Don't worry. I upgraded it the newest version, which was one version ahead of mine and no freak thing happened. :)

DrunkOnEstus said:
DrunkOnEstus said:
Every game I have seems to run better in windowed non-fullscreen, lowest resolution mode. You say it's a bad idea, but with the GPU I have I'm not sure it's such a bad idea for the CPU to handle more of the performance. At this point, I really am talking complete ignorance though, so it's better you tell me what's right or wrong with what I just said. I knew relatively what I was talking about above in the rest of this post.
I did some thinking on this, and here's what's going on.

[snip]

I guess what I'm getting at is that setting most games to windowed with low as possible resolution is (at least to me personally) a vastly inferior visual experience that asks your GPU to do as little work as possible when there's ways it can help you achieve a better experience. Having the FPS counter in Cortex should help should you decide to visit the wiki for a game and see if you can make a fullscreen experience happen. Some may disagree with me on this point, but most of the graphical settings are merely fluff compared to having a game render at a resolution that the screen prefers or isn't massively upscaling. Higher resolution means more pixels means more colors means more of the visuals the game is trying to have you see, and at or close to the screen's native resolution means less or no distortion and the screen displaying the best it can.
I'll try my best to look into fullscreen on a game by game basis, but the fact higher resolution means more pixels, colors, visuals, native resolution scaling is also a good chunk of the reason, combined with the other factors I mentioned why my laptop can't handle it and why some would disagree with you, as you say. Could my laptop potentially handle it? Possibly. Depends on the game obviously.

DrunkOnEstus said:
DrunkOnEstus said:
One additional thing I thought of is looking in the BIOS
You shouldn't have to think of the BIOS as a scary thing. [snip]If there's a way to allocate more VRAM to the GPU or stop some power-saving measure, the gains would be awesome, but either way it's a nice way to learn just a little more about how your computer works and seeing what the "handover" from boot to Windows looks like.
Here's a funny story about scary things. Microsoft is very paranoid about the average user messing with the registry as far as I know.

My Mom has, by far, the oldest computer in the house. It came with Windows XP and is still running it due to her lack of interest in upgrading and the memory usage factor of XP. That computer probably can't even run anything much newer anyway.

It was running terribly so I downloaded AML Free Registry Cleaner. Now, I knew what I was doing, but I missed an important item necessary for the computer and it deleted it, causing the computer to crash on boot. I lied to my Mom that it happened because her computer was in that shitty of a condition and needed it anyway, which, to be fair, was true from a certain point of view ;).

I had to call customer support and as we went through the steps I mentioned skipping to the registry step. I may have messed up but it wasn't out of ignorance so much as out of not paying attention to what was getting cleaned/deleted. The rep freaked out and told me not to do it. What ended up happening? We had to go into the registry. I spent, if I am remembering this right, 7 hours on the phone when the time could have been cut in half if he had just trusted me instead of scaring me off from the registry the way he would any other person.

I tried looking into changing settings in the BIOS but I couldn't find any settings. Another thing I'll have to try again.

DrunkOnEstus said:
Whew. I need to work on that rambling thing I apparently do, anyway I hope I was able to help give some insight : )
Don't worry. I need to work on being more concise myself. Despite my relative knowledge to who you're probably used to dealing with (based on what you've said/implied) you still managed to give me insight. Don't worry :)

Padwolf said:
Well I have a gaming laptop too, pretty much similar specs as yours, OP.

In all honesty? I just have a cooling fan. This baby can run LA Noire and a modded to shit Skyrim all day everyday!
I hope you mean you use it for gaming, not that it is a gaming laptop. My laptop isn't meant for gaming at all. It was bought by my Dad 4 or more years ago for college, not for video games. If you have similar specs your laptop shouldn't work well for newer games either. Then again, you probably didn't spill tomato soup on yours out of laziness to get up and get it versus edging it off the table till it spills.

I had a cooling fan but it stopped working the way it used to. Eventually, I hope to get a new one.
 

jamail77

New member
May 21, 2011
683
0
0
DrunkOnEstus said:
I wanted to post an exported text file of what services I'm running for you and everyone else in this discussion to see how you all feel about the services I disabled or set to manual, but unfortunately the export turned the text file into a hard to read mess. I'll post it here anyway though for anyone who can decipher it. Unfortunately, I can't just screenshot Services due to how long the list is and having to screenshot multiple times as I scroll it down it.

System Information report written at: 07/31/15 23:43:18
System Name: JASON
[Services]

Display Name Name State Start Mode Service Type Path Error Control Start Name Tag ID
SAS Core Service !SASCORE Running Disabled Own Process "c:\program files\superantispyware\sascore64.exe" Normal LocalSystem 0
Adobe Acrobat Update Service AdobeARMservice Stopped Disabled Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\common files\adobe\arm\1.0\armsvc.exe" Ignore LocalSystem 0
Application Experience AeLookupSvc Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal localSystem 0
Application Layer Gateway Service ALG Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\alg.exe Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
AMD External Events Utility AMD External Events Utility Running Auto Own Process c:\windows\system32\atiesrxx.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
AMD FUEL Service AMD FUEL Service Running Auto Own Process "c:\program files\amd\ati.ace\fuel\fuel.service.exe" /launchservice Normal LocalSystem 0
Application Identity AppIDSvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localserviceandnoimpersonation Normal NT Authority\LocalService 0
Application Information Appinfo Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Application Management AppMgmt Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
ASP.NET State Service aspnet_state Stopped Disabled Own Process c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework64\v4.0.30319\aspnet_state.exe Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Windows Audio Endpoint Builder AudioEndpointBuilder Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
Windows Audio AudioSrv Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenetworkrestricted Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
ActiveX Installer (AxInstSV) AxInstSV Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k axinstsvgroup Normal LocalSystem 0
BitLocker Drive Encryption Service BDESVC Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal localSystem 0
Base Filtering Engine BFE Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenonetwork Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Background Intelligent Transfer Service BITS Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Computer Browser Browser Running Disabled Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Bluetooth Support Service bthserv Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k bthsvcs Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Skype Click to Call Updater c2cautoupdatesvc Running Disabled Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\skype\toolbars\autoupdate\skypec2cautoupdatesvc.exe" /service Normal LocalSystem 0
Skype Click to Call PNR Service c2cpnrsvc Running Disabled Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\skype\toolbars\pnrsvc\skypec2cpnrsvc.exe" /service Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Certificate Propagation CertPropSvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v2.0.50727_X86 clr_optimization_v2.0.50727_32 Stopped Disabled Own Process c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework\v2.0.50727\mscorsvw.exe Ignore LocalSystem 0
Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v2.0.50727_X64 clr_optimization_v2.0.50727_64 Stopped Disabled Own Process c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework64\v2.0.50727\mscorsvw.exe Ignore LocalSystem 0
Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v4.0.30319_X86 clr_optimization_v4.0.30319_32 Stopped Auto Own Process c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework\v4.0.30319\mscorsvw.exe Ignore LocalSystem 0
Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v4.0.30319_X64 clr_optimization_v4.0.30319_64 Running Auto Own Process c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework64\v4.0.30319\mscorsvw.exe Ignore LocalSystem 0
COM+ System Application COMSysApp Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\dllhost.exe /processid:{02d4b3f1-fd88-11d1-960d-00805fc79235} Normal LocalSystem 0
Cryptographic Services CryptSvc Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k networkservice Normal NT Authority\NetworkService 0
Offline Files CscService Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
DCOM Server Process Launcher DcomLaunch Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k dcomlaunch Normal LocalSystem 0
Disk Defragmenter defragsvc Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k defragsvc Normal localSystem 0
DHCP Client Dhcp Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenetworkrestricted Normal NT Authority\LocalService 0
Diagnostics Tracking Service DiagTrack Running Auto Own Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k utcsvc Normal LocalSystem 0
DNS Client Dnscache Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k networkservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Wired AutoConfig dot3svc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal localSystem 0
Diagnostic Policy Service DPS Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenonetwork Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Extensible Authentication Protocol EapHost Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal localSystem 0
Encrypting File System (EFS) EFS Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\lsass.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Windows Media Center Receiver Service ehRecvr Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\ehome\ehrecvr.exe Ignore NT AUTHORITY\networkService 0
Windows Media Center Scheduler Service ehSched Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\ehome\ehsched.exe Ignore NT AUTHORITY\networkService 0
Windows Event Log eventlog Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenetworkrestricted Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
COM+ Event System EventSystem Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Fax Fax Stopped Disabled Own Process c:\windows\system32\fxssvc.exe Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Function Discovery Provider Host fdPHost Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Function Discovery Resource Publication FDResPub Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localserviceandnoimpersonation Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Windows Font Cache Service FontCache Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Windows Presentation Foundation Font Cache 3.0.0.0 FontCache3.0.0.0 Running Auto Own Process c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework64\v3.0\wpf\presentationfontcache.exe Normal NT Authority\LocalService 0
Group Policy Client gpsvc Running Auto Own Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k gpsvcgroup Normal LocalSystem 0
Google Update Service (gupdate) gupdate Stopped Disabled Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\google\update\googleupdate.exe" /svc Normal LocalSystem 0
Google Update Service (gupdatem) gupdatem Stopped Disabled Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\google\update\googleupdate.exe" /medsvc Normal LocalSystem 0
Human Interface Device Access hidserv Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
Health Key and Certificate Management hkmsvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal localSystem 0
HomeGroup Provider HomeGroupProvider Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenetworkrestricted Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Windows CardSpace idsvc Stopped Manual Share Process "c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework64\v3.0\windows communication foundation\infocard.exe" Normal LocalSystem 0
Internet Explorer ETW Collector Service IEEtwCollectorService Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\ieetwcollector.exe /v Normal LocalSystem 0
IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules IKEEXT Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
PnP-X IP Bus Enumerator IPBusEnum Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
IP Helper iphlpsvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
CNG Key Isolation KeyIso Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\lsass.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
KtmRm for Distributed Transaction Coordinator KtmRm Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k networkserviceandnoimpersonation Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Server LanmanServer Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Workstation LanmanWorkstation Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k networkservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Link-Layer Topology Discovery Mapper lltdsvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper lmhosts Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenetworkrestricted Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
MBAMScheduler MBAMScheduler Stopped Auto Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\malwarebytes anti-malware\mbamscheduler.exe" Normal LocalSystem 0
MBAMService MBAMService Stopped Auto Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\malwarebytes anti-malware\mbamservice.exe" Normal LocalSystem 0
Media Center Extender Service Mcx2Svc Stopped Disabled Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localserviceandnoimpersonation Normal NT Authority\LocalService 0
Microsoft SharePoint Workspace Audit Service Microsoft SharePoint Workspace Audit Service Stopped Manual Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\microsoft office\office14\groove.exe" /auditservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Multimedia Class Scheduler MMCSS Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Mozilla Maintenance Service MozillaMaintenance Stopped Manual Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\mozilla maintenance service\maintenanceservice.exe" Normal LocalSystem 0
Windows Firewall MpsSvc Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenonetwork Normal NT Authority\LocalService 0
Distributed Transaction Coordinator MSDTC Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\msdtc.exe Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Microsoft iSCSI Initiator Service MSiSCSI Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Windows Installer msiserver Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\msiexec.exe /v Normal LocalSystem 0
Microsoft Antimalware Service MsMpSvc Running Auto Own Process "c:\program files\microsoft security client\msmpeng.exe" Normal LocalSystem 0
Network Access Protection Agent napagent Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k networkservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Netlogon Netlogon Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\lsass.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Network Connections Netman Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
Net.Msmq Listener Adapter NetMsmqActivator Stopped Disabled Share Process "c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework64\v4.0.30319\smsvchost.exe" -netmsmqactivator Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Net.Pipe Listener Adapter NetPipeActivator Stopped Disabled Share Process c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework64\v4.0.30319\smsvchost.exe Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Network List Service netprofm Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Net.Tcp Listener Adapter NetTcpActivator Stopped Disabled Share Process c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework64\v4.0.30319\smsvchost.exe Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Net.Tcp Port Sharing Service NetTcpPortSharing Stopped Disabled Share Process c:\windows\microsoft.net\framework64\v4.0.30319\smsvchost.exe Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Microsoft Network Inspection NisSrv Running Manual Own Process "c:\program files\microsoft security client\nissrv.exe" Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Network Location Awareness NlaSvc Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k networkservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Network Store Interface Service nsi Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT Authority\LocalService 0
Office Source Engine ose Stopped Manual Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\common files\microsoft shared\source engine\ose.exe" Normal LocalSystem 0
Office Software Protection Platform osppsvc Stopped Manual Own Process "c:\program files\common files\microsoft shared\officesoftwareprotectionplatform\osppsvc.exe" Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Peer Networking Identity Manager p2pimsvc Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicepeernet Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Peer Networking Grouping p2psvc Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicepeernet Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Program Compatibility Assistant Service PcaSvc Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
BranchCache PeerDistSvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k peerdist Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Performance Counter DLL Host PerfHost Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\syswow64\perfhost.exe Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Performance Logs & Alerts pla Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenonetwork Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Plug and Play PlugPlay Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k dcomlaunch Normal LocalSystem 0
PNRP Machine Name Publication Service PNRPAutoReg Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicepeernet Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Peer Name Resolution Protocol PNRPsvc Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicepeernet Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
IPsec Policy Agent PolicyAgent Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k networkservicenetworkrestricted Normal NT Authority\NetworkService 0
Power Power Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k dcomlaunch Normal LocalSystem 0
User Profile Service ProfSvc Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Protected Storage ProtectedStorage Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\lsass.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Quality Windows Audio Video Experience QWAVE Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localserviceandnoimpersonation Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager RasAuto Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal localSystem 0
Remote Access Connection Manager RasMan Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal localSystem 0
Razer Game Scanner Razer Game Scanner Service Running Manual Own Process c:\program files (x86)\razer\razer services\gss\gamescannerservice.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Routing and Remote Access RemoteAccess Stopped Disabled Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal localSystem 0
Remote Registry RemoteRegistry Stopped Disabled Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k regsvc Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
RPC Endpoint Mapper RpcEptMapper Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k rpcss Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator RpcLocator Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\locator.exe Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Remote Procedure Call (RPC) RpcSs Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k rpcss Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
RzKLService RzKLService Running Auto Own Process c:\program files (x86)\razer\razer cortex\rzklservice.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Security Accounts Manager SamSs Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\lsass.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Smart Card SCardSvr Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localserviceandnoimpersonation Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Task Scheduler Schedule Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Smart Card Removal Policy SCPolicySvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Windows Backup SDRSVC Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k sdrsvc Normal localSystem 0
Secondary Logon seclogon Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
System Event Notification Service SENS Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Adaptive Brightness SensrSvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localserviceandnoimpersonation Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Remote Desktop Configuration SessionEnv Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal localSystem 0
Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) SharedAccess Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Shell Hardware Detection ShellHWDetection Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Ignore LocalSystem 0
Skype Updater SkypeUpdate Stopped Auto Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\skype\updater\updater.exe" Ignore LocalSystem 0
SNMP Trap SNMPTRAP Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\snmptrap.exe Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Soluto Launcher Service SolutoLauncherService Running Auto Own Process "c:\program files\soluto\solutolauncherservice.exe" Normal LocalSystem 0
Soluto Remote Service SolutoRemoteService Running Manual Own Process "c:\program files\soluto\solutoremoteservice.exe" -service Normal LocalSystem 0
Soluto PCGenome Core Service SolutoService Running Auto Own Process "c:\program files\soluto\solutoservice.exe" Normal LocalSystem 0
Print Spooler Spooler Stopped Disabled Own Process c:\windows\system32\spoolsv.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Software Protection sppsvc Stopped Auto Own Process c:\windows\system32\sppsvc.exe Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
SPP Notification Service sppuinotify Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
SSDP Discovery SSDPSRV Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localserviceandnoimpersonation Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service SstpSvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT Authority\LocalService 0
Steam Client Service Steam Client Service Stopped Manual Own Process "c:\program files (x86)\common files\steam\steamservice.exe" /runasservice Normal LocalSystem 0
Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) stisvc Running Auto Own Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k imgsvc Normal NT Authority\LocalService 0
Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider swprv Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k swprv Normal LocalSystem 0
Superfetch SysMain Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Ignore LocalSystem 0
Tablet PC Input Service TabletInputService Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
Telephony TapiSrv Stopped Disabled Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k networkservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
TPM Base Services TBS Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localserviceandnoimpersonation Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Remote Desktop Services TermService Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k networkservice Normal NT Authority\NetworkService 0
Themes Themes Stopped Disabled Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Thread Ordering Server THREADORDER Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Distributed Link Tracking Client TrkWks Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
Windows Modules Installer TrustedInstaller Running Manual Own Process c:\windows\servicing\trustedinstaller.exe Normal localSystem 0
Interactive Services Detection UI0Detect Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\ui0detect.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Remote Desktop Services UserMode Port Redirector UmRdpService Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal localSystem 0
UPnP Device Host upnphost Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localserviceandnoimpersonation Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Desktop Window Manager Session Manager UxSms Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal localSystem 0
Credential Manager VaultSvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\lsass.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Virtual Disk vds Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\vds.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Volume Shadow Copy VSS Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\vssvc.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Windows Time W32Time Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Windows Activation Technologies Service WatAdminSvc Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\wat\watadminsvc.exe Normal LocalSystem 0
Block Level Backup Engine Service wbengine Stopped Manual Own Process "c:\windows\system32\wbengine.exe" Normal localSystem 0
Windows Biometric Service WbioSrvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k wbiosvcgroup Normal LocalSystem 0
Windows Connect Now - Config Registrar wcncsvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localserviceandnoimpersonation Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Windows Color System WcsPlugInService Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k wcssvc Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Diagnostic Service Host WdiServiceHost Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Diagnostic System Host WdiSystemHost Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
WebClient WebClient Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Windows Event Collector Wecsvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k networkservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support wercplsupport Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal localSystem 0
Windows Error Reporting Service WerSvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k wersvcgroup Ignore localSystem 0
Windows Defender WinDefend Stopped Disabled Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k secsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service WinHttpAutoProxySvc Running Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Windows Management Instrumentation Winmgmt Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Ignore localSystem 0
Windows Remote Management (WS-Management) WinRM Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k networkservice Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
WLAN AutoConfig Wlansvc Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
WMI Performance Adapter wmiApSrv Stopped Manual Own Process c:\windows\system32\wbem\wmiapsrv.exe Normal localSystem 0
Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service WMPNetworkSvc Running Manual Own Process "c:\program files\windows media player\wmpnetwk.exe" Normal NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService 0
Parental Controls WPCSvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenetworkrestricted Normal NT Authority\LocalService 0
Portable Device Enumerator Service WPDBusEnum Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
Security Center wscsvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenetworkrestricted Normal NT AUTHORITY\LocalService 0
Windows Search WSearch Stopped Disabled Own Process c:\windows\system32\searchindexer.exe /embedding Normal LocalSystem 0
Windows Update wuauserv Running Auto Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Normal LocalSystem 0
Windows Driver Foundation - User-mode Driver Framework wudfsvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localsystemnetworkrestricted Normal LocalSystem 0
WWAN AutoConfig WwanSvc Stopped Manual Share Process c:\windows\system32\svchost.exe -k localservicenonetwork Normal NT Authority\LocalService 0

DrunkOnEstus said:
For #6, you are looking at the correct screen. You want the initial size to be what the recommended says at the bottom, or roughly 1.5X your current amount of RAM. The maximum size should be twice the amount of RAM you have. So you're looking at a range of 12-16000 in your case.
The_Kodu said:
The virtual memory thing is just as you've done though as another poster said you may want your initial to be 1.5x your ram. It'll give you a little bit of a performance boost.
So, I recently came across this article. I know it's lifehacker and all but judging by the phrasing and tone of the article he seems pretty knowledgeable. He KIND OF disagrees with both of you on the conventional wisdom you've been doling out on virtual memory and the Windows pagefile. What do the two of you think?

I also have to express my appreciation this wasn't moved to the Advice Forums. It may sound like an advice topic, but in my opinion I am fairly knowledgeable on this and just wanted to see how others go about it. I think it really belongs here in Gaming Discussion rather than Advice even if I did ask and get advice here. Thanks mods! You could have easily moved it if you wanted to.