Dad Alters Donkey Kong for His Daughter - With Pauline as the Hero

[Phasmal]

It's also unreasonable

Oh No! My son has to play Heart of the Swarm as Kerrigan! Starcraft II, Blizzard and Activision are sexist!

...or is it only sexist when it happens to females?

However, as to your final question there - yes, it is only sexist when it happens to females.

Here is the problem with feminists. You believe sexism only goes one way. It's just as bad as saying that only white people can be racist.

Here's the problem with you.
Quotemining.

THIS context is sexist when it happens to women because they are already underrepresented.
Nobody said sexism can't happen to men.

 

[WindKnight]

It's also unreasonable

Oh No! My son has to play Heart of the Swarm as Kerrigan! Starcraft II, Blizzard and Activision are sexist!

...or is it only sexist when it happens to females?

However, as to your final question there - yes, it is only sexist when it happens to females.

Here is the problem with feminists. You believe sexism only goes one way. It's just as bad as saying that only white people can be racist.

nice job cutting out the pertinent parts of her post and focusing on the bit you can wave as a banner of 'the wimmins are oppressing us! look! they admit it! Feel sorry for us mans, we're being made to share things we don't want to!'

 

[Lionsfan]

Prepare for full retaliation for this tremendous insult: http://www.p4rgaming.com/?p=1515

Prepare for full retaliation for this tremendous insult: http://www.p4rgaming.com/?p=1515

Umm okay...hold up. I can't even find this "Mr.Pac-Men" group online at all. Not even a link to his profile or site and even going through 20 pages of google search I can't find anything about him at all.

Something is kinda fishy here. Not even a link to the actual altered game or even a video. Sorry but I'm staying skeptic because there really is a lack of sources and more based on just "believe me, I got a good face".

Defskyoen, I don't know if you're being facetious or not, but Tenmar....come on.

You don't even have to look up "Mr. Pac-Men", just look at other articles on that website.

"Gabe Newell Confirms Half-Life 3 No Longer a Game, Now a Movie Directed by JJ Abrams [http://www.p4rgaming.com/?p=1224]"

or

"Square Enix Forces All Staff to Play Super Mario RPG in Order to Learn How to Make Good RPGs Again [http://www.p4rgaming.com/?p=1507]"

or

"EA Hires Hundreds of Chinese Spammers to Post Positively About SimCity?s Always Online Requirement [http://www.p4rgaming.com/?p=1473]"

 

[Epona]

It's also unreasonable

Oh No! My son has to play Heart of the Swarm as Kerrigan! Starcraft II, Blizzard and Activision are sexist!

...or is it only sexist when it happens to females?

However, as to your final question there - yes, it is only sexist when it happens to females.

Here is the problem with feminists. You believe sexism only goes one way. It's just as bad as saying that only white people can be racist.

Here's the problem with you.
Quotemining.

THIS context is sexist when it happens to women because they are already underrepresented.
Nobody said sexism can't happen to men.

Been listening to feminist bias for years. It is every case where feminists believe sexism can't happen to men. For example, can you tell me where men are underrepresented and can you then show me where feminists have fought for equality?

 

[Phasmal]

It's also unreasonable

Oh No! My son has to play Heart of the Swarm as Kerrigan! Starcraft II, Blizzard and Activision are sexist!

...or is it only sexist when it happens to females?

However, as to your final question there - yes, it is only sexist when it happens to females.

Here is the problem with feminists. You believe sexism only goes one way. It's just as bad as saying that only white people can be racist.

Here's the problem with you.
Quotemining.

THIS context is sexist when it happens to women because they are already underrepresented.
Nobody said sexism can't happen to men.

Been listening to feminist bias for years. It is every case where feminists believe sexism can't happen to men. For example, can you tell me where men are underrepresented and can you then show me where feminists have fought for equality?

I remembered speaking with you before, actually, and finding you rather reality-proof, so pardon me for not wasting much time here.
Yep. My college made a huge push to encourage men to take childcare courses, I, as a feminist, am completely for that and worked with many competent male childcare workers.
But I guess I didn't start the initiative myself, other people did, people who want equality. Feminists. And yeah yeah `oh no feminists just look out for wimminz`
Don't waste my time.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Been listening to feminist bias for years. It is every case where feminists believe sexism can't happen to men. Can you tell me where men are underrepresented and can you then show me where feminists have fought for equality?

You are quite capable of uncovering that information for yourself. It's not the job of strangers on the internet to batter through your obvious confirmation bias when it comes to feminism.

 

[Epona]

It's also unreasonable

Oh No! My son has to play Heart of the Swarm as Kerrigan! Starcraft II, Blizzard and Activision are sexist!

...or is it only sexist when it happens to females?

However, as to your final question there - yes, it is only sexist when it happens to females.

Here is the problem with feminists. You believe sexism only goes one way. It's just as bad as saying that only white people can be racist.

Here's the problem with you.
Quotemining.

THIS context is sexist when it happens to women because they are already underrepresented.
Nobody said sexism can't happen to men.

Been listening to feminist bias for years. It is every case where feminists believe sexism can't happen to men. For example, can you tell me where men are underrepresented and can you then show me where feminists have fought for equality?

I remembered speaking with you before, actually, and finding you rather reality-proof, so pardon me for not wasting much time here.
Yep. My college made a huge push to encourage men to take childcare courses, I, as a feminist, am completely for that and worked with many competent male childcare workers.
But I guess I didn't start the initiative myself, other people did, people who want equality. Feminists. And yeah yeah `oh no feminists just look out for wimminz`
Don't waste my time.

Well I asked you to show me, not give some anecdotal evidence about a college and yourself. Have we ever seen feminists fight the family courts over the clear bias in custody cases? Have we ever seen the feminists fight for a Violence against Everyone Act or fight against the Violence against Women Act because it's discriminatory? Have we ever seen feminists fight for Title IX for men now that men are underrepresented in college?

Feminists aren't about equality at all because they are only interested in helping women. You can't claim to be fighting for equality when you only fight for one side. I have no problem with a cause named "Feminism" fighting only for women but I do have a problem when you claim you are fighting for equality.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

now we have people suggesting that playing video games makes a person sexist.

Nobody has ever said that. Most if not all of the feminist posts I have seen come from women who both play and enjoy video games. Surely they would be calling themselves sexist. All that's wanted is for video games to be inclusive. I don't understand this reasoning discussing possibly sexist content in a videogame does NOT equate to calling all gamers sexist.

As for Pauline I think it's great. I love the bloomers as she tops the ladder. This man must love his daughter very much.

 

[Epona]

now we have people suggesting that playing video games makes a person sexist.

Nobody has ever said that. Most if not all of the feminist posts I have seen come from women who both play and enjoy video games. Surely they would be calling themselves sexist. All that's wanted is for video games to be inclusive. I don't understand this reasoning discussing possibly sexist content in a videogame does NOT equate to calling all gamers sexist.

As for Pauline I think it's great. I love the bloomers as she tops the ladder. This man must love his daughter very much.

If I changed Kerrigan into a man, would I receive the same praise?

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

Here is the problem with feminists. You believe sexism only goes one way. It's just as bad as saying that only white people can be racist.

And I love how you only responded to one line, taken out of context, without support. Who are you, Fox News?

Never mind. I see what you're doing. Goodbye.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

now we have people suggesting that playing video games makes a person sexist.

Nobody has ever said that. Most if not all of the feminist posts I have seen come from women who both play and enjoy video games. Surely they would be calling themselves sexist. All that's wanted is for video games to be inclusive. I don't understand this reasoning discussing possibly sexist content in a videogame does NOT equate to calling all gamers sexist.

As for Pauline I think it's great. I love the bloomers as she tops the ladder. This man must love his daughter very much.

If I changed Kerrigan into a man, would I receive the same praise?

I don't think anyone would care dude he would just be another male protagonist/antagonist in a sea of male protagonists/antagonists.

Look at that outrage that occurred when Lara Croft turned into Nathan Drake. Oh wait there wasn't one.

 

[Phasmal]

Well I asked you to show me, not give some anecdotal evidence about a college and yourself. Have we ever seen feminists fight the family courts over the clear bias in custody cases? Have we ever seen the feminists fight for a Violence against Everyone Act or fight against the Violence against Women Act because it's discriminatory? Have we ever seen feminists fight for Title IX for men now that men are underrepresented in college?

Feminists aren't about equality at all because they are only interested in helping women. You can't claim to be fighting for equality when you only fight for one side. I have no problem with a cause named "Feminism" fighting only for women but I do have a problem when you claim you are fighting for equality.

Dude, whatever your problems with feminism, they are your problems.
You say I can't say I am fighting for equality and call myself a feminist, I quite clearly can.
Your biases are quite clearly showing. I can see we will never agree.
You can feel free to dance around and feel like you've won.

 

[Epona]

Well I asked you to show me, not give some anecdotal evidence about a college and yourself. Have we ever seen feminists fight the family courts over the clear bias in custody cases? Have we ever seen the feminists fight for a Violence against Everyone Act or fight against the Violence against Women Act because it's discriminatory? Have we ever seen feminists fight for Title IX for men now that men are underrepresented in college?

Feminists aren't about equality at all because they are only interested in helping women. You can't claim to be fighting for equality when you only fight for one side. I have no problem with a cause named "Feminism" fighting only for women but I do have a problem when you claim you are fighting for equality.

Dude, whatever your problems with feminism, they are your problems.
You say I can't say I am fighting for equality and call myself a feminist, I quite clearly can.
Your biases are quite clearly showing. I can see we will never agree.
You can feel free to dance around and feel like you've won.

If you can't see the logic in "fighting for only one side =/= fighting for equality" then you are a true feminist. Congratulations.

My biases are as clear as yours are but unlike you, I am not trying to shut down discussion. I noticed that you didn't respond to my examples?

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

But the entire games media does not do that, not at all in fact. Many games have female leads or main characters such as . . . the final fantasy series, ghost in the shell, buffy (it had games), metroid, mirrors edge, mass effect, oni, perferct dark, silent hill, xena (had a game), streets of rage, golden axe, resident evil, portal, alice and gears of war to name a few.

Once again, I'm only addressing Retro games here. The games currently being revived and ported to portable devices of various sorts in App form. Games like Donkey Kong.

None of the games you listed - good games, mind - are retro games.

I would just like to point out that 4 of the games mentioned are retro games, and 5 others could be considered retro depending on your personal age for retro. Hell, if we count all the retro final fantasy and golden axe games , not just as 1, then 11 of the games listed are retro(only counting the three main golden axe games).

First off, it depends on what you mean by retro games. I was talking pre-NES games, like Donkey Kong. None of those are Atari games, except maybe golden axe, and most people usually think of the remakes rather than the original.

Secondly, Final Fantasy and Metroid (both NES games, mind, see above) are usually thought of as franchises. Most people haven't played FF1 - they started at maybe FF6. To be honest, most started higher and went backwards. The same goes for Metroid. Also, are either of these being released as Apps? Which, again, is the context of what I've been talking about.

Thirdly, again with Final Fantasy, there isn't a female lead until FF5. FF6 is the one known for having a female lead. Again, unless they're releasing one of the SNES titles as an App for mobile devices, then they aren't the class of retro titles I'm talking about.

Fourth... I honestly have no idea about Streets of Rage. You may have gotten me on that one if it is an Atari title being re-purposed as a mobile device App. If it's an NES title (or later) and it isn't being used as such, then the above applies - I honestly have no idea.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

It's also unreasonable

Oh No! My son has to play Heart of the Swarm as Kerrigan! Starcraft II, Blizzard and Activision are sexist!

...or is it only sexist when it happens to females?

However, as to your final question there - yes, it is only sexist when it happens to females.

Here is the problem with feminists. You believe sexism only goes one way. It's just as bad as saying that only white people can be racist.

Here's the problem with you.
Quotemining.

THIS context is sexist when it happens to women because they are already underrepresented.
Nobody said sexism can't happen to men.

Been listening to feminist bias for years. It is every case where feminists believe sexism can't happen to men. For example, can you tell me where men are underrepresented and can you then show me where feminists have fought for equality?

I remembered speaking with you before, actually, and finding you rather reality-proof, so pardon me for not wasting much time here.
Yep. My college made a huge push to encourage men to take childcare courses, I, as a feminist, am completely for that and worked with many competent male childcare workers.
But I guess I didn't start the initiative myself, other people did, people who want equality. Feminists. And yeah yeah `oh no feminists just look out for wimminz`
Don't waste my time.

Well I asked you to show me, not give some anecdotal evidence about a college and yourself. Have we ever seen feminists fight the family courts over the clear bias in custody cases? Have we ever seen the feminists fight for a Violence against Everyone Act or fight against the Violence against Women Act because it's discriminatory? Have we ever seen feminists fight for Title IX for men now that men are underrepresented in college?

Feminists aren't about equality at all because they are only interested in helping women. You can't claim to be fighting for equality when you only fight for one side. I have no problem with a cause named "Feminism" fighting only for women but I do have a problem when you claim you are fighting for equality.

A lot of the support for fathers 4 justice (a UK cause to enable men to see their children after a divorce) came from feminist groups.

That aside most of the problems you list were skewed poorly against women to start with. They do not put women in front of men therefore it's for EQUALITY

A lot of these bonuses men hate us for like not being on the front lines or staying home came from the idea that women are weak and should be protected. There are plenty of women who want to fight on the front lines and go to work and we had to FIGHT for those things some men say are downsides of being a guy....

Kind of wierd huh.

Look at gaming, practically everything is catered towards you. Exactly how do you want us to make that more in your favour.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

Dude, whatever your problems with feminism, they are your problems.
You say I can't say I am fighting for equality and call myself a feminist, I quite clearly can.
Your biases are quite clearly showing. I can see we will never agree.
You can feel free to dance around and feel like you've won.

At this point, Phasmal, it's not worth it. He is clearly cheery-picking whatever we say so he can loudly protest and ignores the fact that we're trying to regain balance and not "man hating".

Report and Ignore.

 

[Phasmal]

If you can't see the logic in "fighting for only one side =/= fighting for equality" then you are a true feminist. Congratulations.

My biases are as clear as yours are but unlike you, I am not trying to shut discussion. I noticed that you didn't you respond to my examples?

I am not here to be your friendly feminist example, to take you by the hand and show you that we are not scary women coming after your dicks. If you want to research feminism, do so. But don't act like you're going to change your mind.

I am for gender equality. Not fighting for one side. I'm also a feminist.
If that hurts your head, I suggest a lie down in a dark room.

At this point, Phasmal, it's not worth it. He is clearly cheery-picking whatever we say so he can loudly protest and ignores the fact that we're trying to regain balance and not "man hating".

Report and Ignore.

Yep, realised that a little late. You know those types. *shrug*
I won't be responding to him anymore anyway. I'm too busy conspiring against men and being eeeevil.

 

[Frankster]

Awwww this is so cute

I have nothing more of substance to add im afraid.

 

[Epona]

It's also unreasonable

Oh No! My son has to play Heart of the Swarm as Kerrigan! Starcraft II, Blizzard and Activision are sexist!

...or is it only sexist when it happens to females?

However, as to your final question there - yes, it is only sexist when it happens to females.

Here is the problem with feminists. You believe sexism only goes one way. It's just as bad as saying that only white people can be racist.

Here's the problem with you.
Quotemining.

THIS context is sexist when it happens to women because they are already underrepresented.
Nobody said sexism can't happen to men.

Been listening to feminist bias for years. It is every case where feminists believe sexism can't happen to men. For example, can you tell me where men are underrepresented and can you then show me where feminists have fought for equality?

I remembered speaking with you before, actually, and finding you rather reality-proof, so pardon me for not wasting much time here.
Yep. My college made a huge push to encourage men to take childcare courses, I, as a feminist, am completely for that and worked with many competent male childcare workers.
But I guess I didn't start the initiative myself, other people did, people who want equality. Feminists. And yeah yeah `oh no feminists just look out for wimminz`
Don't waste my time.

Well I asked you to show me, not give some anecdotal evidence about a college and yourself. Have we ever seen feminists fight the family courts over the clear bias in custody cases? Have we ever seen the feminists fight for a Violence against Everyone Act or fight against the Violence against Women Act because it's discriminatory? Have we ever seen feminists fight for Title IX for men now that men are underrepresented in college?

Feminists aren't about equality at all because they are only interested in helping women. You can't claim to be fighting for equality when you only fight for one side. I have no problem with a cause named "Feminism" fighting only for women but I do have a problem when you claim you are fighting for equality.

A lot of the support for fathers 4 justice (a UK cause to enable men to see their children after a divorce) came from feminist groups.

That aside most of the problems you list were skewed poorly against women to start with. They do not put women in front of men therefore it's for EQUALITY

A lot of these bonuses men hate us for like not being on the front lines or staying home came from the idea that women are weak and should be protected. There are plenty of women who want to fight on the front lines and go to work and we had to FIGHT for those things some men say are downsides of being a guy....

Kind of wierd huh.

Look at gaming, practically everything is catered towards you. Exactly how do you want us to make that more in your favour.

Is your whole argument built around things that happened in the past that none of us had anything to do with?

Oh and that feminist support for F4J, I'd like to see some credible proof. Were there credible feminist organizations throwing their support behind F4J?

When things are in womens favor, no one cares, especially feminists and this is my problem. You want to celebrate a father making Mario into a female, great but will you also celebrate a parent making Samus, Peach or Kerrigan into a male for their son?