Dad Takes Umbrage With Daughter's Facebook Insubordination, Shoots Her Laptop

[Kashrlyyk]

I fully support this guy, he's a great dad.

No, he is a SHIT dad. There is not a gene that makes people spoiled or immature, it is not something that just happens. No, IT IS LEARNED! And it is a sign of bad parenting.

So when this guy was confronted with the fact that he and his wife are SHIT at parenting he could not cope with loosing the delusion of being a good parent and punished HER for HIS failure. And only retards and other failures applaud that.

 

[Bat Vader]

At around the thirty-five or forty second mark he said that he works in IT for a living. The issue was his daughter posting a nasty comment about them and insulting them on Facebook. His daughter was the problem, not Facebook. He also stated that in the video that his daughter did this before as well. If she had learned her lesson the first time he would not have shot her laptop.

It is her own fault for acting like a brat.

Oh, so lemme get this straight. An IT guy gets mad at his daughter and decides to shoot a computer. An IT guy? That makes him even dumber. A man who values technology blows it away, wastefally. I believe that's what ya call a damn shame, ironic even.

If he works in IT I would not consider him dumb. It is the daughters own fault he destroyed her laptop. If she has learned her lesson the first time none of this would have happened.

Uh what? Is he some kind of mindless automaton that has to react to things in a certain way, or did he go and decide himself to destroy the laptop? It's such bullshit when people say "It was her fault that he did that." No, it's directly his responsibility for doing it. Maybe it was a reasonable response, maybe it was not(I'd say not). But in the end he was the one responsible for the action, not her. It's nonsense to divert his responsibility for the action as if he only had one possible reaction.

But no, seriously, as I saw someone mention today, that's actually the logic abusers sometimes use to justify their actions. It's just stupid. If you want to say his response was reasonable, go ahead. But don't pretend it wasn't his response, not the direct consequence of her actions. It's a poor mindset to fall into where you decide to remove responsibility from someone for their reactions.

If you don't agree with my opinion that is fine but please don't insult me because I voiced my opinion. I never said it was not his response. All I said was that if she had learned her lesson the first time this would not have happened. If you want my opinion on his response than here it is. I think he acted a bit to harshly by shooting the laptop. I think he should have taken it away until either she was done being grounded or until she got a job and paid him back for it.

 

[Bat Vader]

At around the thirty-five or forty second mark he said that he works in IT for a living. The issue was his daughter posting a nasty comment about them and insulting them on Facebook. His daughter was the problem, not Facebook. He also stated that in the video that his daughter did this before as well. If she had learned her lesson the first time he would not have shot her laptop.

It is her own fault for acting like a brat.

Oh, so lemme get this straight. An IT guy gets mad at his daughter and decides to shoot a computer. An IT guy? That makes him even dumber. A man who values technology blows it away, wastefally. I believe that's what ya call a damn shame, ironic even.

If he works in IT I would not consider him dumb. It is the daughters own fault he destroyed her laptop. If she has learned her lesson the first time none of this would have happened.

Uh what? Is he some kind of mindless automaton that has to react to things in a certain way, or did he go and decide himself to destroy the laptop? It's such bullshit when people say "It was her fault that he did that." No, it's directly his responsibility for doing it. Maybe it was a reasonable response, maybe it was not(I'd say not). But in the end he was the one responsible for the action, not her. It's nonsense to divert his responsibility for the action as if he only had one possible reaction.

But no, seriously, as I saw someone mention today, that's actually the logic abusers sometimes use to justify their actions. It's just stupid. If you want to say his response was reasonable, go ahead. But don't pretend it wasn't his response, not the direct consequence of her actions. It's a poor mindset to fall into where you decide to remove responsibility from someone for their reactions.

If you don't agree with my opinion that is fine but please don't insult me because I voiced my opinion. I never said it was not his response. All I said was that if she had learned her lesson the first time this would not have happened. If you want my opinion on his response than here it is. I think he acted a bit to harshly by shooting the laptop. I think he should have taken it away until either she was done being grounded or until she got a job and paid him back for it.

You said it was her fault. Well no, it really isn't her fault. It's his fault it's destroyed. Saying it is her fault removes responsibility from the one who actually committed the act.

I am done with this. I am not going to argue with you or anyone else about this. All I wanted to do was voice my opinion on the matter. I did that and I am now officially done with this topic.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

What a waste...

Of bullets I mean. Those things are EXPENSIVE. I saw a box of 20 top-of-the-line .45 ACP hollow point going for over $30. They were really good. But dang, they were not cheap.

OT: I'm siding with the father on this one. I sympathize with him.

 

[Heronblade]

I don't believe in that style of parenting in the first place either. What he did may change his daughter's outward act, but it will not change her attitude.

Yes and no. A person's basic attitude can and will change to match their expressed attitude. Doesn't happen for all cases, and it does take time, but if this video had the desired effect (an assumption that isn't particularly certain), that effect could very easily be lasting.

 

[TechNoFear]

These two threads are hilarious to me to be honest. I've a sneaking suspicion most of these people have never been to the "backwoods" of America. If they had, they wouldn't be as surprised.

I helped to develop a track-side railway asset protection system which is used by all heavy haul railways in Australia.

When it was tested for the US market (by AMTRAK's commercial arm) it failed first time because it was not bullet proof....

 

[Blind Sight]

I don't really have a strong opinion either way, I don't condemn the guy for doing this but it's not exactly something I'd do myself. Also I probably wouldn't have let this become so public. My issue is with the internet mouth-breathers making comments like how the daughter should kill herself. That's just being plain scum/trolling (not sure about some of them).

 

[JaceArveduin]

These two threads are hilarious to me to be honest. I've a sneaking suspicion most of these people have never been to the "backwoods" of America. If they had, they wouldn't be as surprised.

I helped to develop a track-side railway asset protection system which is used by all heavy haul railways in Australia.

When it was tested for the US market (by AMTRAK's commercial arm) it failed first time because it was not bullet proof....

Eyup, not really surprised. You should see some of the signs around my hometown, can't read what they say due to the fact they're full of holes from where they've been used for target practice.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Well, I'm glad there's at least one thread on this site where people who can recognize abuse when they see it outnumber the abusers and enablers. Pity that it's only 3 pages long, vs. the 13+ the other one is on right now.

 

[TomLikesGuitar]

it certainly didn't warrant a 2 year grounding

1. He's bluffing.

2. She got freaking grounded. Boo freaking hoo. My dad would have beaten the hell out of me if I publicly posted a bunch of lies and said things like "clean up your own shit". God forbid what would have happened if I called my mom a name. And I'd have fucking deserved it because you don't treat the people whose house you live in like that. Not to mention they BOUGHT HER A FUCKING LAPTOP! And shes already 15 and HAS NEVER HAD A FREAKING JOB!

3. The girl is (was) a spoiled *****, and clearly has no concept of money if she's making such a huge deal about some fucking chores. Freaking kids these days are so god-damn entitled and still people think we should be nicer to them. It's disgusting.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Correction: The third page somehow managed to have human beings outnumbering monsters. The rest of the thread, not so much. I had read the first two pages, but it was hours ago and I forgot just how ridiculous it is.

Edit: Actually, this just popped into my head.


Replace the word "love" with "respect," and you'll have exactly what this man did to his poor daughter. The fact that it's coming from a cartoon pony, if anything, drives home the point further: Tommy Jordan is as immature as they come.

 

[Lillowh]

Oh, and for people saying he shouldn't have shot it: What better way to draw a point that you bought it and can do wtf ever you want with it than putting some rounds into it?

Oh, I don't know... Any form of communication that's considered civilized behaviour maybe?

He tried that, was just brushed off. And no, sitting someone down and giving them a talking to does not make the same impact as taking the computer you bought them and filling it full of lead. Least in my opinion.

No, one is a reasonable and proportionate reaction to your daughter writing a rude and petulant post online, the other is not. Can you guess which is which?

You obviously did not fully watch the video and read his official response before forming your opinion, which by the way, is uninformed. She had done something else like this 3 months prior, and he talked to her and grounded her (the so called reasonable an proportionate reaction), and she did not even remember it. Grounding and talks just do no good for some people (I was fortunate enough to realize the value of my items that would be taken away when grounded early on). Plus, by her language in her post, she is clearly ungrateful and spoiled, referring to their housekeeper as "The Cleaning Lady," who the father even takes the time to defend. She is fifteen and has a laptop, the chores he lists that she has would take 20 minutes out of her day MAX, and she still says she will not help them when they reach an age that they need it, something they did for her (even more so) when she was a child. On top of that she is using language that is extremely inappropriate and ungrateful.

On the issue of the laptop, I'm not a huge fan of guns and am far from southern, yet I don't think there was any more civilized way of destroying the laptop. He could have sold it, but laptops don't have a great resale value and it doesn't make a definite point. If he gave it away, it could be rationalized as a just action by her. Destroying the laptop makes the point that it is a luxury item, and that goods are finite and can easily become unusable while having no serious impact on living conditions.

As for the gun, I think it was the best choice for displaying a calm demeanor in the video. Pouring water on it or using water in some form would seem like a spiteful in your face way of dealing with it. Using some kind of tool to smash it would display some kind of rage and physical aggression when it comes to handling problems. The way he carefully handles (and visibly takes care of) the firearm, shows he has a respect for the tool he's using, and allows him to keep a calm demeanor during the video. Is there other ways to get the point across? Yes, but I can't think of one that would be as clear and concise to anybody, regardless of upbringing.

 

[TomLikesGuitar]

By 2 I'd say that you have a skewed view of what is acceptable. No, beating someone over a matter of mere words like that is simply not acceptable. That is an out of proportion response and simply uncivilized.

My dad never actually hit me and we get along fine. I do things for him whenever I can, and in return, he helps me through life.

That's how it always has been.

The day I was old enough to have any sense of decency, I started doing something to earn my keep and contribute. Nowadays, there's all this bullshit about "preserving youth" and the only result is that every other kid I see is a spoiled brat, making a huge scene in public about not getting something relatively expensive that they did nothing to earn. Parents just throw shit at their kids their whole lives, and expect the same kids to understand the concept of money when they get older.

My dad wouldn't have stood for that kind of shit, and no parent should.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Oh, and for people saying he shouldn't have shot it: What better way to draw a point that you bought it and can do wtf ever you want with it than putting some rounds into it?

Oh, I don't know... Any form of communication that's considered civilized behaviour maybe?

He tried that, was just brushed off. And no, sitting someone down and giving them a talking to does not make the same impact as taking the computer you bought them and filling it full of lead. Least in my opinion.

No, one is a reasonable and proportionate reaction to your daughter writing a rude and petulant post online, the other is not. Can you guess which is which?

You obviously did not fully watch the video and read his official response before forming your opinion, which by the way, is uninformed. She had done something else like this 3 months prior, and he talked to her and grounded her (the so called reasonable an proportionate reaction), and she did not even remember it. Grounding and talks just do no good for some people (I was fortunate enough to realize the value of my items that would be taken away when grounded early on). Plus, by her language in her post, she is clearly ungrateful and spoiled, referring to their housekeeper as "The Cleaning Lady," who the father even takes the time to defend. She is fifteen and has a laptop, the chores he lists that she has would take 20 minutes out of her day MAX, and she still says she will not help them when they reach an age that they need it, something they did for her (even more so) when she was a child. On top of that she is using language that is extremely inappropriate and ungrateful.

On the issue of the laptop, I'm not a huge fan of guns and am far from southern, yet I don't think there was any more civilized way of destroying the laptop. He could have sold it, but laptops don't have a great resale value and it doesn't make a definite point. If he gave it away, it could be rationalized as a just action by her. Destroying the laptop makes the point that it is a luxury item, and that goods are finite and can easily become unusable while having no serious impact on living conditions.

As for the gun, I think it was the best choice for displaying a calm demeanor in the video. Pouring water on it or using water in some form would seem like a spiteful in your face way of dealing with it. Using some kind of tool to smash it would display some kind of rage and physical aggression when it comes to handling problems. The way he carefully handles (and visibly takes care of) the firearm, shows he has a respect for the tool he's using, and allows him to keep a calm demeanor during the video. Is there other ways to get the point across? Yes, but I can't think of one that would be as clear and concise to anybody, regardless of upbringing.

Actually, all Mr. Jordan said was that she had done something out of line, and he couldn't even remember what it was. We have no way of knowing whether it had anything to do with the incident at hand or not -- he certainly didn't know. And that begs the question: if it was minor enough that he didn't remember the crime, why in the hell was the punishment that big? What's more, why is he escalating for something as minor as what is, essentially, something his daughter wrote in her diary? Because Facebook is a weird combination of diary and e-mail, /both/ of which are supposed to be private. I mean, I've seen plenty of people going "well, there's no privacy on the internet," and I have to wonder what their feelings are on the (legally protected!) privacy of e-mail.