Dante's Inferno and The Hate on it
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I get what your saying, but it sounds like "Mee waah wah blah blah"SnootyEnglishman said:
Jk you do have good points.
I like GoW as much as the next guy, and alot of games have borrowed elements from it in the past, but this game looks exactly like they just gave Kratos a new wepon and a different character model.
It isn't "Like God of War, it IS god of war.
I actually made a post about this awhile back,
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.164627-Poll-Dantes-kill-death-revenge-plus-tits-Or-Kratos-Inferno#4301055
Okay so who's played the new demo for Dante's Inferno?
I did and it seemed oddly familiar.
Fixed camera that shows the entire battlefield your fighting on.
A dash using the right analog stick.
Green chests, or fountains rather that you must spam the B button to open.
"Souls" you collect from your enemy to upgrade your skills.
See a pattern?
I have seen games copy the God of War formula before (like x-men origins: wolverine)but this game feels almost like a total ripoff of GoW's game play.
I dont know about you all but this demo has not convinced me to want to buy the game when it comes out.
I look for two things when I play a game, Story or Game Play, and if I get both I'm one happy guy.
With this game the story looks like it could be ok, but it is terribly delivered.
Sorry but trying to make a woman a sympathetic character and then whipping out her tits every five seconds does not make me take the game seriously, and I was even laughing every time she was on screen.
The game play is pretty good and I was having fun but that's because I love God of war.
The beginning is you fighting normal people and you can either press the heavy attack once or spam the light attack.
It goes on too long and by the time you ask "Is this over yet?" it is.
The only real fun is when you get the cross and acquire the ability to either punish or redeem your enemy's, and depending on which you choose you can use that experience to upgrade your evil or holy attacks.
So that looks good but still its not enough to make me want the game.
What do y'all think?
EDIT: I also wanted to say that EA has been talking about this forever.
Every time I look there is some new viral marketing or new ad campaign for this game but after all of that, after making this out to be the new gaming messiah that will redefine everything that we know about a controller,
THIS IS THE BEST YOU HAVE!
I am very unimpressed EA you can do A LOT better
I did and it seemed oddly familiar.
Fixed camera that shows the entire battlefield your fighting on.
A dash using the right analog stick.
Green chests, or fountains rather that you must spam the B button to open.
"Souls" you collect from your enemy to upgrade your skills.
See a pattern?
I have seen games copy the God of War formula before (like x-men origins: wolverine)but this game feels almost like a total ripoff of GoW's game play.
I dont know about you all but this demo has not convinced me to want to buy the game when it comes out.
I look for two things when I play a game, Story or Game Play, and if I get both I'm one happy guy.
With this game the story looks like it could be ok, but it is terribly delivered.
Sorry but trying to make a woman a sympathetic character and then whipping out her tits every five seconds does not make me take the game seriously, and I was even laughing every time she was on screen.
The game play is pretty good and I was having fun but that's because I love God of war.
The beginning is you fighting normal people and you can either press the heavy attack once or spam the light attack.
It goes on too long and by the time you ask "Is this over yet?" it is.
The only real fun is when you get the cross and acquire the ability to either punish or redeem your enemy's, and depending on which you choose you can use that experience to upgrade your evil or holy attacks.
So that looks good but still its not enough to make me want the game.
What do y'all think?
EDIT: I also wanted to say that EA has been talking about this forever.
Every time I look there is some new viral marketing or new ad campaign for this game but after all of that, after making this out to be the new gaming messiah that will redefine everything that we know about a controller,
THIS IS THE BEST YOU HAVE!
I am very unimpressed EA you can do A LOT better
But to me the game feels like an uninspired rip off.
Personally, I'm looking forward to Dante's Inferno BECAUSE it's a God of War ripoff. I'm a longtime fan of GoW, and DI plays like a Hell-themed skin FOR God of War, the next installment of which I can't play because of Console Exclusivity.
As to the divergence from the original poem....so? Nobody's going to recall all existing copies of the Divine Comedy and replace the text of the poem with a novelization of the game. I'm choosing to view it the same way I looked at the Watchmen or Fight Club film adaptations- definitely inferior to the original material, but they stand on their own as separate pieces of art, and might even inspire people to look into the books. If people walk away from DI (the game) thinking that THAT'S the story of the Divine Comedy, obstinately refusing to look into Allegheri's work (or to even acknowledge it), then they're ASSHOLES. And they will always engage in ASSHOLISH behavior, and the team behind the game shouldn't have to suffer scorn because the gaming community has ASSHOLES in it. If the game actually sucks, THEN the dev team should get scorned at. But as it stands, it already looks very pretty, very engaging, and very fun. I'm all fof it.
As to the divergence from the original poem....so? Nobody's going to recall all existing copies of the Divine Comedy and replace the text of the poem with a novelization of the game. I'm choosing to view it the same way I looked at the Watchmen or Fight Club film adaptations- definitely inferior to the original material, but they stand on their own as separate pieces of art, and might even inspire people to look into the books. If people walk away from DI (the game) thinking that THAT'S the story of the Divine Comedy, obstinately refusing to look into Allegheri's work (or to even acknowledge it), then they're ASSHOLES. And they will always engage in ASSHOLISH behavior, and the team behind the game shouldn't have to suffer scorn because the gaming community has ASSHOLES in it. If the game actually sucks, THEN the dev team should get scorned at. But as it stands, it already looks very pretty, very engaging, and very fun. I'm all fof it.
Huh, when I clicked on the topic I thought people were complaining about the actual poem. Then I remembered I'm on the Escapist. *facepalm. Silly me. Feel free to mock the English Major now.
Frankly I've seen enough good literature (though I'm not sure Dante's Inferno qualifies as good for me, groundbreaking yes, interesting certainly, good? It's about Dante talking about his long dead love and all his enemies that are going to end up in hell. A veritable fuck you directed at most of the people who knew him, so... yeah...) bastardized that I hear this and go "oh, well that's the way the cookie crumbles". Another good story has been shredded by the mediocrity machine that is pop culture. I really have no feelings on it beyond that.
Dante is probably off in Heaven with Beatrice though so I don't think he cares. Still, if it gets all the young un's out there to try and read the story then great, they probably won't make it through the first few stanzas. It requires a lot of social context that one really won't get outside of english classrooms and from qualified professors.
Oh! The Aeneid! That's the one I was trying to remember! I should go back and put that in another post. God have mercy on your soul Virgil, god have mercy on your soul. I won't.
Frankly I've seen enough good literature (though I'm not sure Dante's Inferno qualifies as good for me, groundbreaking yes, interesting certainly, good? It's about Dante talking about his long dead love and all his enemies that are going to end up in hell. A veritable fuck you directed at most of the people who knew him, so... yeah...) bastardized that I hear this and go "oh, well that's the way the cookie crumbles". Another good story has been shredded by the mediocrity machine that is pop culture. I really have no feelings on it beyond that.
Dante is probably off in Heaven with Beatrice though so I don't think he cares. Still, if it gets all the young un's out there to try and read the story then great, they probably won't make it through the first few stanzas. It requires a lot of social context that one really won't get outside of english classrooms and from qualified professors.
Oh! The Aeneid! That's the one I was trying to remember! I should go back and put that in another post. God have mercy on your soul Virgil, god have mercy on your soul. I won't.
I wrote something similar yesterday (the Search Bar can go buzz off though) it only got like 15 views when I last checked on it though.
In general I agree with the OP, thugh as I said in my post, I sort of think Dante's Inferno is a victim of it's own advertising (which I explained in my post).
In general I agree with the OP, thugh as I said in my post, I sort of think Dante's Inferno is a victim of it's own advertising (which I explained in my post).
even if it has the same mechanics as GoW, i really liked the plot of the game...(having already played the demo) it has a good pace in battles and it's original to say the least.
The game has certainly not been given a fair shake by the press. Some sit about and complain that the gameplay is derivative, which it may well be but they seemingly refuse to answer the question of is it fun to play? Plenty of games possess derivative gameplay and are not forced to endure the level of criticism being leveld at Dante's Inferno. The rest complain about how silly the story has become and again I find this criticism to be lazy at best. I'm not quite sure what sort of game one could make if they stayed true to the source material since the only thing that happened during the course of the work is that Dante simply danders about through hell following Virgil. Most of the conflict is internal and thus difficult at best to present in the medium of game. Again, the problem that I see is the complaint that the game's premise is utterly silly hold no weight as there have been plenty of games who have delivered similar levels of crazyness and disrespect for classic literature without having to endure complaints of this sort.
All in all, there are few sources I'd trust to give me an even handed review of the game now because in each instance where I've heard an opinion it is negative, and in some cases this behavior extends back months. It is clear that many chose to hate the game before it was released, which may be the result of it being legitmately bad, but this hardly engenders trust between myself and the entire reviews industry that has spoken it's mind on the subject.
All in all, there are few sources I'd trust to give me an even handed review of the game now because in each instance where I've heard an opinion it is negative, and in some cases this behavior extends back months. It is clear that many chose to hate the game before it was released, which may be the result of it being legitmately bad, but this hardly engenders trust between myself and the entire reviews industry that has spoken it's mind on the subject.
This man have a valid point. It may not be the closest version of Dante's Inferno,but it might make people go out and buy the poem.secretshadow90 said:
Doesn't it state that it is based of the poem? Never claiming "Oh,I am the poem. LOOK AT ME SCHYTING THESE DEMONS!!!". Or atleast that is what I have heard.
I played the Demo, which fair enough is not supposed to be an entirely accurate representation of finished gameplay, but what I played was close to totally uninspiring...
The opening fight with the town-people took too long to trundle through, the fight with Death out-stayed it's welcome and it's not a "Couldn't get the combat down" thing, it's more of a "Your weapon is useless and barely damages Death" thing...
After that, I'm sorry as much as the OP doesn't want to hear it again.
I may as well have been playing God of War with less weapon choice and fractionally more clothing.
The opening fight with the town-people took too long to trundle through, the fight with Death out-stayed it's welcome and it's not a "Couldn't get the combat down" thing, it's more of a "Your weapon is useless and barely damages Death" thing...
After that, I'm sorry as much as the OP doesn't want to hear it again.
I may as well have been playing God of War with less weapon choice and fractionally more clothing.
and another thing, does modernize mean totally change for money?SnootyEnglishman said:
so if I were to the lord of the rings and make frodo a badass who storms the tower of barad-dur with an M16 does that mean Im "Modernizing" the lord of the rings?
I know Im being a little extreme but you get my drift.
Okay, maybe "Romeo and Juliet" is not the best example of a Shakespeare play to turn into a game. Now, if they wanted to do "Titus Andronicus" I'd be all for that. Cause there's, you know, cannibalism, rape, and tongues getting hacked out. Also hands and feet being cut off. Madness, insanity, death, and oh yeah, cannibalism. Still, I think Anthony Hopkins might have something to say on the subject if they did. But most people don't even know it exists, so, hey, there's one dream dead. ^_^SakSak said:
I'm a GoW-fanboy, and I've played through the demo several times.
I can't believe I'll risk my life saying this, but it's actually fun.
But that's probably because I liek GoW-ish games, and DI could have done it much worse.
But so far, I'm still on Kratos' side and still "meh" at DI.
I can't believe I'll risk my life saying this, but it's actually fun.
But that's probably because I liek GoW-ish games, and DI could have done it much worse.
But so far, I'm still on Kratos' side and still "meh" at DI.
When I played it I found it similarish to Devil May Cry but then again I've never played a God of War game. I'll only same a game is similar to another to convey what it is like to someone I won't complain that a game copies another game, there isn't an infinite number of ideas - the same idea WILL come up again.
Also I'm kind of intrested in this game sheerly because it's adapted from a poem's idea (exaggerated a bit though) and because the demo was allright and left me wondering what the game would be like after getting more powers and moves.
Hating a game solely because "it's a copy" is just plain dumb, no game is completely original and no game ever will be now
Also I'm kind of intrested in this game sheerly because it's adapted from a poem's idea (exaggerated a bit though) and because the demo was allright and left me wondering what the game would be like after getting more powers and moves.
Hating a game solely because "it's a copy" is just plain dumb, no game is completely original and no game ever will be now
They both involve lots of hitting things to death. It's been a while since I played a God of War game so I may be wrong-ish.Xerosch said: