Dante's Inferno is less graphic/violent than Left 4 Dead 2 (Apparently)

[Dys]

I'm sure the other Aussies on this site have been following the hype around Dante's Inferno. Murderous babies, boob demons, demon wang, violence violence violence! Somehow the Australian review board felt that this was fine for an MA15+ rating.

Left 4 Dead 2 was refused classification.

Let that just sink in for a bit. Yeah, that's what I thought too.

Further, God of War 3 has also been given an MA15+ rating. Can anyone explain this to me? Australians get a butchered version of L4D2, and yet neither of these games have been censored. AvP was held up and examined, and was almost refused classification, but that decision was reviewed. We're getting that too.

So very much happy news. However, I am confused. What the hell Aussie Classification Board!?

I think tis because in L4D2 you are killing humans. Granted, they are zombified, but they are Humans nevertheless, and the environment has a realistic feel about it too. In Dantes Inferno u arent slaughtering humans, and in GoW3 I have no idea what you are killing but its not aiming for the most realistic gaming experience is it?

Actually, they are 'infected'. Had they used a different word (like, as you suggested, zombified) I'm almost positive the game wouldn't have been banned. I read something (at the time, from the board) along the lines of "killing of humans infected with a rabies like virus is morally detestable" and thus the banning

So yeah, I'm far more surprised that the veiwing of a womans (it's apparently OK for men to wander around shirtless) bare chest being allowed, and somewhat gobsmacked as to why a penis isn't instantly rejected, I mean, think of the children and how terribly nudity within (or without) a sexual context could harm them [sub]or something[/sub]!?

I think that's how Atkinson got it banned in the first place.
"Calling them Infected was too realistic" or some bullshit like that.

Atkinson plays no role in the actual banning of material, he is simply the only governor who won't vote it in (all the others have voted for it in the past, in fact I beleive the QLD representative is veto-ing him and is in the process of creating a state R18 classification for games). It was the classification board (a group of senile old bats who are equally out of touch with reality) who are apparently so far behind in zombie trends that they are aware most zombies are humans that have been infected with some kind of virus.

The whole situation is absurd, and the most depressing part is that it is so far from the biggest the biggest censorship problem in this country.....The way things are going it's conceivable that people like me will end up fleeing the country in some 10 or 15 years :\

 

[anthony87]

inferno is set around a famous poem and god of war is set around greek mythology so perhaps as a bit artsy/educational got them that spot

I'm gonna have to go with this. Poetry and ancient mythology tend to have the tits and whatnot on show all the time and no one bats an eyelid.

But then I expose myself in public ONCE and you'd swear it was like I was trying to cockslap the Pope.

 

[ZeroDotZero]

It's because in Dante's Inferno you're not killing people. Whereas in Left 4 Dead 2 you're killing...dead people?

Well, you are killing people in Dante's Inferno.

Try the demo.

 

[fletch_talon]

I would assume the first person viewpoint would have been taken into consideration.
Since their entire argument revolves around how it could warp fragile minds, a perspective that's more immersive (first person rather than third) is gonna be under more fire.

 

[Iron Mal]

Sword violence leading to gruesome decapitations = fine and dandy.
Gun violence leading to gruesome decapitations = not so fine and dandy.

Umm...

I think i'm a bit lost.

I think it's trying to go along the train of thought that says that it's much easier to get ahold of a gun than a sword, halberd or the Grim Reaper's own pointy stick (thus it is easier to mimic gun-based violence).

I still say that's bollocks but...there's no convincing some people.

 

[lvl9000_woot]

Played the demo and within 5 minutes there were triangley, angley tits and pubic hair on show.

When will devs learn that curves are sexy, polygons aren't?

My guess is they like Madona's cone bra so much they stuck with polys...

 

[waterhazard]

Played the demo and within 5 minutes there were triangley, angley tits and pubic hair on show.

When will devs learn that curves are sexy, polygons aren't?

I don't think it was meant to be sexy. >_>

 

[Balaxe]

Because the board wants us to play these games but if they make every game that is 18+ in other countries 15+ people will suspect them. But on the other hand movies that get 18+ in other countries get 15+ here so maybe aussie are just less uptight about this kind of shit.

 

[NT]

I think they learned from the Left 4 Dead 2 issue and don't want feel the anger of their gamers

 

[anthony87]

inferno is set around a famous poem and god of war is set around greek mythology so perhaps as a bit artsy/educational got them that spot

I'm gonna have to go with this. Poetry and ancient mythology tend to have the tits and whatnot on show all the time and no one bats an eyelid.

But then I expose myself in public ONCE and you'd swear it was like I was trying to cockslap the Pope.

Except, the game has fuck all to do with the poem, and I don't remember reading about Kratos in anciet Mythology.

Dante's Inferno is BASED on the poem.
God of War is BASED around Greek mythology.

Neither myself nor the person I quoted said that the games are taken directly from the source material.

 

[CD-R]

It's because in Dante's Inferno you're not killing people. Whereas in Left 4 Dead 2 you're killing...dead people?

Well, you are killing people in Dante's Inferno.

Try the demo.

Yep not just any people either. The game starts off with you guarding Muslim prisoners that were taken hostage during the Crusades to barter for a captured holy relic. Well they break out and for the first five minutes you are killing rioting Muslim prisoners including women (I think). I want to compare it to the No Russian mission from Modern Warfare 2 but the prisoners somehow got there hands on swords so they can at least defend themselves. Needless to say the Islamic governments of the world are going to have a fit when they find out about this and watching them rage about it is going to be the most entertaining moment of 2010.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Played the demo and within 5 minutes there were triangley, angley tits and pubic hair on show.

When will devs learn that curves are sexy, polygons aren't?

I don't think it was meant to be sexy. >_>[/quote

I beg to differ... that girl was clearly designed to be the typical 'hot blonde' type that appeals to most guys.

Now when she went all demon-ish and had those wierd marks everywhere... yeah that probaby wasn't meant to be sexy...

 

[yourbeliefs]

Why are you trying to find logic with this decision? I find that censorship groups are almost NEVER consistent with what they censor and their reasoning behind it. Just be glad that you'll have access to these games, and hopefully they won't suck and will be worth playing.

 

[Flos]

inferno is set around a famous poem and god of war is set around greek mythology so perhaps as a bit artsy/educational got them that spot

I'm gonna have to go with this. Poetry and ancient mythology tend to have the tits and whatnot on show all the time and no one bats an eyelid.

But then I expose myself in public ONCE and you'd swear it was like I was trying to cockslap the Pope.

Except, the game has fuck all to do with the poem, and I don't remember reading about Kratos in anciet Mythology.

Dante's Inferno is BASED on the poem.
God of War is BASED around Greek mythology.

Neither myself nor the person I quoted said that the games are taken directly from the source material.

Then how on Earth is the game's status as a 'game that's based around x' have anything to do with anything? You said yourself that it doesn't have to take directly from the source material. If it's nothing like the source material, mentioning the source material is asinine.

"The poem might have had boobs so ITZ O-K IF DA GAEM DOEZ 2 CUZ DATZ CLASSIC LITERATURE AND ITZ INSULTING IF U DN'T."

Derp derp.

 

[DeathWyrmNexus]

inferno is set around a famous poem and god of war is set around greek mythology so perhaps as a bit artsy/educational got them that spot

I'm gonna have to go with this. Poetry and ancient mythology tend to have the tits and whatnot on show all the time and no one bats an eyelid.

But then I expose myself in public ONCE and you'd swear it was like I was trying to cockslap the Pope.

Except, the game has fuck all to do with the poem, and I don't remember reading about Kratos in anciet Mythology.

That is because you read the WRONG FUCKING MATERIAL!!! XD

 

[Hiphophippo]

I guess L4D2 "is" pretty violent. I was pretty surprised at the level of gore in the game to be honest.

Pleasantly surprised, but surprised nonetheless.

 

[oliveira8]

I'm quite sure that the report from the classification board said that it was the 'high impact violence' that was one of the keys factors in L4D2's result.
None of the games you mentioned are in first person so that must be why they are being let through, that or bribes.
But that still doesn't have anything to do with demon wang though.

Alien vs Predator is not an FPS?

Someone's been living under a rock.

Aliens vs. Predator is a science fiction first-person shooter video game in development by Rebellion Developments, the team behind the 1999 original PC game, and set to be published by Sega for Microsoft Windows, the PlayStation 3 and the Xbox 360.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

While I thought the gore in L4D2 was fairly unsightly, that's fucking stupid. They really need to take this entire classification system under review.