Dardevil is also cancelled

[Something Amyss]

Seems like disney are trying to get back every property they own to put on the streaming service they're building.

Alternatively, Netflix has been killing shows from external production houses and is focusing on in-house productions. Which is probably why Millarworld has four series and a couple movies coming, or something to that effect.

The CW network had that with the "Arrowverse" shows. Arrow and Flash were both on the same network, so existed in the same universe. Supergirl wasn't however, so they weren't linked despite all being DC heroes.

Supergirl met Flash in "World's Finest," a season one episode that happened before CW picked up the show. It was on CBS at the time.

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

Bet he didn't see that one coming.

 

[Something Amyss]

Bet he didn't see that one coming.

Insert Zoidberg Boo video here.

 

[madwarper]

Supergirl met Flash in "World's Finest," a season one episode that happened before CW picked up the show. It was on CBS at the time.

But, the CW is an offshoot of CBS, so it's still the same sandbox.

Constantine didn't appear in the Arrowverse until after his NBC show was canceled.

 

[BrawlMan]

I am hating Netflix and Disney right now. Well, they better release the rest of those box sets soon.

 

[Callate]

Well, crap. I didn't love everything about season 3, but it was still strong, and one hell of an improvement on season 2.

I suspect the author is correct that this has more to do with closed-door Disney shenanigans than the success or failure of the show itself.

I suspect we haven't hit it yet, but someone in an office somewhere needs to recognize that there actually is an upper limit on the number of $10/month services the typical consumer is willing to float. We aren't deconstructing cable TV just to rebuild a model just as obnoxious.

 

[Something Amyss]

Supergirl met Flash in "World's Finest," a season one episode that happened before CW picked up the show. It was on CBS at the time.

But, the CW is an offshoot of CBS, so it's still the same sandbox.

Constantine didn't appear in the Arrowverse until after his NBC show was canceled.

Still doesn't make KngsGambit correct, which is what I addressed.

I suspect we haven't hit it yet, but someone in an office somewhere needs to recognize that there actually is an upper limit on the number of $10/month services the typical consumer is willing to float. We aren't deconstructing cable TV just to rebuild a model just as obnoxious.

Disney's probably safe, though. They have such a catalogue of kid-friendly material parents will buy it, and if hey're the home for superhero shows and Star Wars I'm betting nerds will buy it, too. I mean, I won't buy it, or if I do, it'll mean axing Netflix. There really is only so much I'm willing to pay and have time to actually watch.

 

[Gatx]

It does raise interesting questions tho, since these shows were interlinked the way they were. What happens when *one* of the shows gets cancelled, but not the others? The MCU itself will have similar issues soon enough when the actors from phase 1 (cap, iron man, thor) will be moving on. The universe they inhabited still exists but those characters aren't in it anymore. Without Iron Fist and Luke Cage, could DD, JJ and Punisher have continued, after they linked them all together?

I believe we saw hints at how they would do this with Don Cheadle's replacing of Terrence Howard (small nod to change up but otherwise just keep trucking) and Mark Ruffalo's replacement of Edward Norton and kind of by extension, Norton's replacement of Eric Bana. Norton's movie kind of leaves off where Bana's does and doesn't even bother retelling the origin, and they just pretend like Ruffalo was Hulk the entire time.

I guess what I'm saying is that there is precedent for them just replace actors and reboot characters, and then hoping everything transitions smoothly.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

I believe we saw hints at how they would do this with Don Cheadle's replacing of Terrence Howard (small nod to change up but otherwise just keep trucking) and Mark Ruffalo's replacement of Edward Norton and kind of by extension, Norton's replacement of Eric Bana. Norton's movie kind of leaves off where Bana's does and doesn't even bother retelling the origin, and they just pretend like Ruffalo was Hulk the entire time.

I guess what I'm saying is that there is precedent for them just replace actors and reboot characters, and then hoping everything transitions smoothly.

As I understand it, Bana's Hulk wasn't in continuity, since the character wasn't owned by Marvel then. But the rights reverted to Marvel after lying dormant for so long, so Norton's one technically was Marvel, although most people credit Iron Man for kicking off the MCU. That was the time when Disney bought Marvel so everything after the first Iron Man was Disney and in continuity. Ruffalo replacing Norton though is valid and so too is your point about Don Cheadle.

I would say tho in those examples, they're both "secondary" characters in the MCU. They're supporting heroes to the main headliners and so re-casting wasn't so much of an issue, and further, it happened early enough in phase 1 that it's been this way for far longer than it was the other way.

The issue will be with RDJ who kinda headlined and sent the MCU skyrocketing. The option would be to kill Tony Stark in-universe, and explain a replacement in the continuity. To recast without anyone acknowledging it in-universe, it's just Tony Stark with a new face. To retire the character and just leave them off-screen. Or just keep doing reboots. It's not an easy one since continuity is THE reason for the MCU's success; all movies are in continuity with each other, in one shared universe.

You may well be right and just recasting will be enough. It will be jarring but could work. It's gonna happen after this next Avengers, Infinity War P2, the original contracts with the phase 1 lot was 3 standalone and 3 Avengers (IW counts as one film in two parts, sneaky Disney). RDJ would probably be happy to do more but at an exorbitant salary that Kevin Feige isn't willing to pay. Chris Evans wants to move on and has said he wants to be a director. I don't know about Hemsworth's feelings, beyond his quip about "playing Thor after he's let himself go a bit", sitting in Asgard eating and drinking.