Dark Cloud is probably the best one out of the bunch you listed. I mean, it's hard, sure, and the learning curve can be hard, but it's a fun game and by far the main reason I even bothered owning a PS2 (that and it was more convient then buying a PS1).
Game just takes a bit of learning and practice is all, but by far an excellent game.
Game just takes a bit of learning and practice is all, but by far an excellent game.