Dark Knight won't be able to top Avengers

[elcamino41383]

I feel a lot of people will be disappointed with it. I saw it last night and it was just boring. The action was slow and almost like the action in the old Batman show with Adam West, Bane was just...not Bane. If they gave him a different name and made him a new character it would have been fine, but he was just so way off base. I told myself to distance myself from what I know of anything about Batman, much like I had to for most comics/books/video games gone movie, but this one I just couldn't. When seeing the previews I was actually very underwhelmed, and I felt that way through the entire movie. Yet I still somehow feel cheated. To each his/her own but I honestly feel more people will be let down by it than anything. If not, then oh well.

 

[xplosive59]

I was disappointed with The Avengers but I can see why it sold, mostly everyone I know in real life seems really excited for DKR while most did not give a shit about The Avengers when it came out.

 

[Misterian]

Personally, I'd take the Avengers over the Dark Knight trilogy any day. *guns get pointed at me* just here me out!

Not that I think the Dark Knight is a bad film, I simply think it has the a problem similar to Bioware's Dragon Age games in that took itself way too seriously and deconstructs half of what makes the superhero genre fun.

While the Avengers knew how to take itself seriously without ruining the fun of the superhero genre, it's (in my opinion) everything a superhero movie should be and then some; it's action-packed (and unlike the Micheal Bay Transformers, you can actually make out what's going on), it's funny, it has great characters, it has everything people like about the genre and then some.

 

[Rastien]

Dark knight is awesome.

Avengars is awesome.

Expendables was probably one of the most painful films i ever watched and it did well enough for a sequel.What people flood to see in the cinema may not be that great, shashank redemption sucked balls at the box office but is an amazing film.

 

[King of Asgaard]

Well both films are offering something different.
Avengers offered a fun, mindless two hours of action which lacked a decent narrative.
DKR is supposedly offering a much deeper story, but is less of an action flick.
So it really all depends on what one looks for in a film, and whether or not DKR can top Avengers.

 

[spartan231490]

Yeah, box office aside, I don't think DKR will be as good, as in: as fun to watch, as avengers was. Avengers was an absolutely amazing film with an interesting(if generic) plot, a well written script, and great actors. Even the Dark Knight, which I imagine will be the best movie of the three, was only a mediocre movie. Heath Ledger's performance in it was so phenomenal that it made the movie great, but without it the film was mediocre. And, as I'm sure most of you are painfully aware, Mister Ledger is no longer able to lend his prowess to the franchise, leaving them destined to mediocrity.

 

[lRookiel]

*Steals picture*

Noone cares about DKR or avengers, we all know they will both be trampled into the dust by The Hobbit anyway :3

 

[HardkorSB]

OMG nobody cares.
Actually, a lot of people do.

Examples:
John Carter was good but it flopped so they won't make another one like it.
Scott Pilgrim was very good but it flopped so they won't make another one like it.
Firefly was good but it had low ratings so they cancelled it.
Serenity was very good but it flopped so the franchise is now dead.

On the other hand:
Twilight made a lot of money so not only did they split the last part into 2 movies and made it longer than it should be, others started to copy it and we got some bull shit like Beastly and others I don't even remember.
Transformers made a lot of money so they keep making them and they keep getting dumber, as well as other similar shit (like Battleship).

Like it or not, movies are fucking expensive. If a movie makes money, they try to make a similar thing because they think it will sell again.
If it doesn't sell the first time, they say "fuck it" and move on.

When Burton's Batman Returns (which is awesome, by the way) didn't make as much money as the studio and DC wanted, they went full on camp with the 2 next ones.
If the Dark Knight Rises won't make enough money, they will go back to that cheesy Batman Forever/Batman & Robin style.

 

[The Funslinger]

I didnt realise that there was a big issue between the DKR trying to top the avengers in terms of box office.

For me the bigger, more interesting issue is whether the DKR will be as good as the dark knight. Heaths ledgers potrayal of the joker made that film, it will be difficult for the DKR to at least match the intensity of the dark knight.
Could not care less whether its better than the avengers or not

Personally, I like the spin they're putting on Bane. It has potential.

 

[Torrasque]

Ok thats nice, but it is still the most anticipated movie of the summer, and that is no small feat.

 

[Just_A_Glitch]

I just hope TDKR doesn't beat the Avengers because I bet someone on this website that if it does, I'll eat a shoe.

Aside from that, I don't care what comes out on top so long as I get two great movies out of it.

 

[Radelaide]

Why are you comparing box office performances? Does it have something to do with quality or something? Or are you one of the shareholders?

Because the films that do well in the box office are the ones that set the trends for future films to follow.

So we can look forward to more crossovers that is a product of four different film series? Doesn't seem likely to me

Well as soon as DC realised how successful the Avengers was they began trying to make the Justice League a viable product.

Big earners set trends. This is a non negotiable fact.

Science fact.

Except DC (with the exception of this current Batman series) make shit real action movies. DC have a particular genius with animation, but their IRL stuff is poorly made, written and shot. Unless DC happen to pull something miraculous our of their asses, JLA wouldn't be anywhere near the greatness that Avengers is.

(Obviously they need Joss Wheadon as director and Nathan Fillion as GL.)

 

[Joseph Alexander]

If the Dark Knight Rises won't make enough money, they will go back to that cheesy Batman Forever/Batman & Robin style.

no, cause those movies didn't sell.

its more likely for the reboot(thats already in the works to fit batman into a movieverse)they're going to draw from a new source material.

also, not exactly keeping high hopes for it being "good", i mean Bane is an asthmatic gimp in a fur coat and Catwoman acts like someone just rammed a 5ft pole up her ass.
and lets be honest, TDK was as big as it was CAUSE od heath's death, not the actual movie or his performance.
the fact he died afterwards and people clomped onto that.

with avengers we saw something done that was never done before in the history of cinema, a continuity driven movie.
the fact that said movie was not just good but great,or for that matter even came into existence, is astounding.


its more then likely DKR will follow the tradition of 3rd in a series of super hero movies, lots of mindless action with little thought to any of it.

 

[SidheKnight]

If box office numbers were indicative of the quality of a movie, Michael Bay's Transformers would be an Oscar-winning masterpiece.

 

[Mikeyfell]

The day Box Office determines the quality of a movie is the day I kill everyone...everyone...everyone......

Anyway. That's not to say the Avengers wasn't fucking awesome, it was.
And I doubt the Dark Knight Rises will be better than The Avengers. (Even though the Dark Knight was the third (Now fourth) top grossing movie ever (beaten by Avengers)) I hardly think Rises will be better than Dark Knight (Cause it's the third instalment in a trilogy and those are never ever ever ever better than the second one (and shut up about Return of the King))

 

[Allthingsspectacular]

Why don't we just get rid of 3D already? Nobody likes 3D.

 

[HardkorSB]

If the Dark Knight Rises won't make enough money, they will go back to that cheesy Batman Forever/Batman & Robin style.

no, cause those movies didn't sell.

Forever sold pretty well, actually.

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=batmanforever.htm

Batman & Robin didn't so they rebooted it.

John Carter should have been named either Princess of Mars or John Carter of Mars, and there should have been much less concentration on the Earth portions in the trailers.

Firefly should have been aired in the correct order in a timeslot that wouldn't have gotten pushed around every 5 minutes by the latest fad, be it sports or "special programming" and they should have aired reruns on timeslots that weren't set in stone and performing poorly with the shows that would normally play.

There should have been a shitload more advertising on Serenity with more actiony trailers. I saw one trailer for it late at night on comedy central and it was boring. With no hype up it was doomed to failure.

The studios look at it differently:

It didn't make money = people didn't like it (in most cases)

The people who make movies aren't the same people who make decision what movies will and what movies won't be made (unless you're some big shot with a lot of previous successful work and a ton of money like Spielberg). The people making these decisions are businessmen who care about profit first and everything else second.
They don't know or care what the people really like. They look at the numbers and make their decision based on that. Sometimes they'll do a poll to see what's "in" at the moment and add that into perspective but most of the time, it's just the numbers.