(The TLDR was rather lazily typed I apologize in advance I am tired and may finish my thoughts on this topic at a later date. Thank you for reading and please give your opinion on the matter!)
First in Demons Souls, and now in Dark Souls; Item Duplication, Soul Duplication, and exclusive for Dark Souls the Bottomless Box Glitch(Which allows players to trade items from one character to a freshly made character)
The premise behind this series was that it was difficult, required time and practice in order to do well, and incorporated online play to not only give players a easier way to overcome the outstanding difficulty, but also make it harder in the same way by having other players come in to challenge them in midst of an already challenging game.
Instead of actually playing the game players are now using the bottomless box glitch to "Mule" 99 of (Literally) every item from another player to their low level characters to pretty much turn this game into as one player said "Dark Souls
repare To Have Your Hand Held Edition". Which means everything that had originally made this game popular has now gone completely out the window.
To top it all off players are putting up petitions left and right to have these game shattering glitches remain in the game. Now a lot of people are claiming that this makes the game better because it eliminates all of the unenjoyable elements from the game; and leaves you with instant reward, an easy platinum/100% Achievement, and allows players to do nothing but "enjoy" the game. When I first purchased Demons Souls and Dark Souls the first 20 hours were horrifically difficult and the sense of accomplishment I gained from completing both of these games completely outdoes the sense of reward and enjoyment you get from simply destroying the game in one sitting with unintended glitches, and negatively affecting players who intend on playing fairly.
Ways it affects other players negitively?
(Well Im not gonna make this any longer of a post than it needs to be so lets keep this short)
1.People who intend on playing fairly in PvE get to have their hands held by players who use this glitch eliminating any sort of satisfaction that would be gained by playing normally.
2.Players have been enjoying a high amount of griefing due to these glitches one popular one being Soul Level 1 characters that are unkillable due to the usage of the bottomless box glitch
A post from this(http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/606312-dark-souls/63999438?page=1) website sparked my desire to come out and post about this matter. I have been playing Demons Souls and Dark Souls for an approximate 500+ total; and only until now have I decided to use these glitches myself because "Hey, why not?" I have the max amount of characters you can possibly create all of which are leveled and for the most part fully built and upgraded. It took me less than an hour to use the soul duplication glitch and finish every single one of my characters. In turn I ended up ruining the aspects I loved about this game in a matter of hours. =(
At this point since nothing can be done about already exsisting characters. No amount of patching can save the game from the glitches that have already taken place. The player base of these games have spit in the face of this game, and I can only pray that there is yet another Souls game that doesnt include these glitches.
TL;DR
Due to gameshattering glitches in Dark Souls and Demons Souls players have been able to cruise control through these games in a matter of only 2-5 hours, and even though players can choose to not interact with the cheating players part of what makes this game great is the multiplayer aspects that not only giving players an easy way out in an already difficult game but allowing other players to further increase the difficulty through the same aspect. Which makes the game less enjoyable for people trying to play the game fairly. People who use the glitches can also play the game fairly but morally tears down everything that makes this game outstanding. I ended up resorting to cheating because I felt left out and after finishing a character that was meant to be a challenge (SL1 Darkwraith build) I learn soon after that everyone can have a character of the same caliber in roughly an hour of playing.(Compared to the 30 hours it took for a veteran player to accomplish)
This game is ruined by these glitches and those of you who disagree are the reason I decided to type up this long post. If you dont want a challenge in a game go play Cars 2 or Megamind.
First in Demons Souls, and now in Dark Souls; Item Duplication, Soul Duplication, and exclusive for Dark Souls the Bottomless Box Glitch(Which allows players to trade items from one character to a freshly made character)
The premise behind this series was that it was difficult, required time and practice in order to do well, and incorporated online play to not only give players a easier way to overcome the outstanding difficulty, but also make it harder in the same way by having other players come in to challenge them in midst of an already challenging game.
Instead of actually playing the game players are now using the bottomless box glitch to "Mule" 99 of (Literally) every item from another player to their low level characters to pretty much turn this game into as one player said "Dark Souls
repare To Have Your Hand Held Edition". Which means everything that had originally made this game popular has now gone completely out the window.To top it all off players are putting up petitions left and right to have these game shattering glitches remain in the game. Now a lot of people are claiming that this makes the game better because it eliminates all of the unenjoyable elements from the game; and leaves you with instant reward, an easy platinum/100% Achievement, and allows players to do nothing but "enjoy" the game. When I first purchased Demons Souls and Dark Souls the first 20 hours were horrifically difficult and the sense of accomplishment I gained from completing both of these games completely outdoes the sense of reward and enjoyment you get from simply destroying the game in one sitting with unintended glitches, and negatively affecting players who intend on playing fairly.
Ways it affects other players negitively?
(Well Im not gonna make this any longer of a post than it needs to be so lets keep this short)
1.People who intend on playing fairly in PvE get to have their hands held by players who use this glitch eliminating any sort of satisfaction that would be gained by playing normally.
2.Players have been enjoying a high amount of griefing due to these glitches one popular one being Soul Level 1 characters that are unkillable due to the usage of the bottomless box glitch
A post from this(http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/606312-dark-souls/63999438?page=1) website sparked my desire to come out and post about this matter. I have been playing Demons Souls and Dark Souls for an approximate 500+ total; and only until now have I decided to use these glitches myself because "Hey, why not?" I have the max amount of characters you can possibly create all of which are leveled and for the most part fully built and upgraded. It took me less than an hour to use the soul duplication glitch and finish every single one of my characters. In turn I ended up ruining the aspects I loved about this game in a matter of hours. =(
At this point since nothing can be done about already exsisting characters. No amount of patching can save the game from the glitches that have already taken place. The player base of these games have spit in the face of this game, and I can only pray that there is yet another Souls game that doesnt include these glitches.
TL;DR
Due to gameshattering glitches in Dark Souls and Demons Souls players have been able to cruise control through these games in a matter of only 2-5 hours, and even though players can choose to not interact with the cheating players part of what makes this game great is the multiplayer aspects that not only giving players an easy way out in an already difficult game but allowing other players to further increase the difficulty through the same aspect. Which makes the game less enjoyable for people trying to play the game fairly. People who use the glitches can also play the game fairly but morally tears down everything that makes this game outstanding. I ended up resorting to cheating because I felt left out and after finishing a character that was meant to be a challenge (SL1 Darkwraith build) I learn soon after that everyone can have a character of the same caliber in roughly an hour of playing.(Compared to the 30 hours it took for a veteran player to accomplish)
This game is ruined by these glitches and those of you who disagree are the reason I decided to type up this long post. If you dont want a challenge in a game go play Cars 2 or Megamind.
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